I don't see the issue here if you are having fun.
C'mon JC, you see the issue, its powerscrolls
New rewards/ replicas, OK. SoT - OK.
I don't have one and I posted to report people using that bug.
So, what's your complaint exactly? By your own words, getting scrolls is hard, not impossible. What's the problem with that?
What I stated is that if somebody wants scrolls, and plans accordingly, he can get them. You said the same right above. So what's the all the fuss about?
Funny, most of what I said comes from experiences of four/two years ago, when Europa was more crowded than Atlantic is now...Heartseeker said:
Odd, I stole a 20 taming just yesterday with my factioned thief, from opposing faction chars. A 20 swords some days before. Maybe you missing the proper skill? Now, don't misunderstand me, I do agree that thieves are nerfed hard, and that they are NOT funny to play at the moment, because for the most part the only peope you will be able to steal from are clueless ones. Nonetheless, if you WANT the scrolls and you are alone, there is no reason why you shouldn't try it. Laziness is not an excuse to ask for a free lunch.Heartseeker said:
Dude. You are the one that responded to me first remember? I was the one that said it's not impossible to do champ spawns sometimes. I also(this might be the tricky part for some people) said that champ spawn guilds DO control the champ spawns on many shards. These are simple facts. No argument no whining just statements. To say there is no control of champs is absurd and most of the people know it.
There is a bad imbalance now. The model where PvPers supplied the powerscrolls and PvMers supplied the items has been totally screwed up with Faction items and boosts in champ item loot. Factions items are equivalent to 125 PS dropping on Horde Minions in New Haven, making champs in Fel pointless.C'mon JC, you see the issue, its powerscrolls
Powerscrolls, however, are integral to play. The troubles with "Fel only" are numerous and oft cited. Not everyone who prefers Fel play is a cheater, not by a long shot, but high payoff areas lying solely within Fel pulls every remaining cheater/ exploiter/ hacker like a magnet, we've all witnessed it, and witnessed EA/ Mythic's unwillingness or inability to address it. Let there be no doubt, the term "sweaty palm effect," that resides within the PvP arena, is something many enjoy and Mythic doesn't want to lose. The trouble is, they have never found an adequate enticement to cause most players to enjoy/ experience it, and the willful/ negligent insistence that scrolls remain "Fel only" is germane to the mentality that has led subscription rates to where they are today!
I don't get it. Most of the crap people have to carry now like potions, petals, trapped box etc is worth equal to or more than the stuff that people carried back in the day. Weapon, shield, armor. All that stuff was craftable and easy to get. It wasn't a huge deal to lose it. It's the same stuff we lose now. I don't understand the argument that insurance is bad. Insurance is a good thing. I don't want to lose my suit they take FOREVER to put together.
I'd love to but I'm not too keen on pvping with 400 ping. The guild I'm in isn't known for it's overwhelming numbers, however back when Oceania was popular and we were running 7 people vs 30+ (I'd imagine the odds would be similar on Atlantic for small guilds vs large ones, i.e 4:1) we would always win. Numbers don't mean anything, in fact I'd wager that the best 8 mage pvpers on Atlantic couldn't match it against our best 4. Of course there is no way we could prove this, however I'd be willing to bet my entire UO account on it.
JC - I love ya - you are a huge asset to the UO community - but I'm gonna have to call you out on your 'new math' here.
1 necro mage who protects on the champ and wither spams, two dexxers using soulseekers with leafblades + vermin slayer tally for the champ. Spam alt P to get all the spawn on you and whirlwind spam. When it hits champ the necromage corpses the champ and heals the dexxers (they can x-heal if they want too) while it's trapped in. Although we usually do it in 12 minutes, to break the 10 min barrier one of our dexxers brings a discorder for champ and just discords it to speed it up.
You people are cry babies, honestly. People that do Fel spawns risk losing their HUGE thousand gold per death, as well as bandages, potions, apples, etc. So the people that only want to play in Trammy land where there is NO risk at all should be given the same items, but for less risk and effort? You realize in Fel if you get boxed in, you can't just run over the monsters right? How is that for a negative? Want some more? Grounds of PKs, thieves standing on the altar, etc. You want the perks of Fel spawns? Then learn to PvP, and do a damn Fel spawn. Or should EA just implement a box at Luna bank you can double click and choose the replica of your choice for the day? BUT you can only choose one a day, CHOICES CHOICES.
So basically what you are saying is that you should be able to attack anyone with your suit willy nilly and if your little plan doesn't work out you should not lose your suit?
I watch at some spawns people dying 4-5-10 times in a row. You lose twice the insurance dying to monsters as you do players. So that same player would have to die 8-10-20 times to enemy players to lose the same amount.
Yeah I don't like doing trammel ones either, the fact that someone can just come on level 4 and get a replica is annoying.
Ehm, just reread your original message, and I realized I missed a negation in one of your sentences. My apologies.No thanks.
Still, I think you should seriously DEFINE what your meaning for "control a spawn" is, since in the following statement you say that it is possible to run spawns. What you have written above is an oxymoron, unless your definition of "controlling champ spawns" is pretty different from that of most of the people here. So, please, define your terms.
Good lord, man. What exactly am I whining about? Where did I say anything about Fel spawns getting 'too many perks'? I'm also having trouble discovering where in my post I said anything about never playing in Fel or calling people hackers.
JC, man...heh. Again, do the math: People raiding a spawn in Fel can die to the monsters AND the PvP; people raiding in Trammel only die to the monsters. It is a case of PVM death only versus PVM+PVP death. On top of that, players are entirely capable of focusing on other players during the spawn to the exclusion of anything else in the PvP setting - this cannot happen in the Trammel ruleset.
Then I guess you would have to decide not to wear your best suit of armor when there is a high probability of PvP. It's kind of like wearing your nicest suit and tie when you paint the family room... maybe you like wearing it, but it is probably not the smartest thing to do. Prior to item insurance, people had vanq weapons and high end armor, but rarely used them for PvP. That is part of what made it so fun and balanced is that no one person used gear that was substantially better than anyone else.
Yeah I personally liked when they brought in barbed leather and made gm armors have better AR if you used the special materials, that was pretty much just before AoS, bronze hammers were easy to get and had 50 charges. Could make decent armor for mages and warriors in no time.
no it's not.
absolutely.
what are you talking about? don't you wear armor on your tamer?
This isn't necessarily true. Most guilds who do Fel champs have a system to distribute scrolls/items that are gotten from the spawns. Since they cannot regulate who arrives at the Tram spawns and participates they also cannot regulate the distribution of items like you can in Fel.
Nah, you only lose half the gold when you die to other players vs spawn. People just don't want to be bothered, don't want to lose a boss to another guild after doing the whole spawn, don't appriciate a good trash taker, or just are embarassed to die to other players, get mad when they die etc. PvPers tend to judge these types of people, looking at them in some sort of negative light. Never really understood that. Never understood why some of the best PvPers are the absolute worst PvMers I know either.
Because when they come up against anything that does more than 30 damage in one hit to them, they whiz their pants and start crying like 12 year old girls and begging for nerfs.
You have to deal with them; you do all the work, they get the reward for almost nothing.
I bolded your whole problem. I spent 2 weeks on Atlantic doing champ spawns with 1-2 other people and very rarely got raided. We did them in T2A and other such places. Dont go to Despise or Destard and expect you will get anything other than dead.
I dunno what you 2 are talking about. Most PvP'ers have PvM chars geared to killing Champ bosses/Harrower as fast as possible under extreme pressure.