Wrestling with magery Question

[L1Z4RD]

Does wrestling require tactics to perform the specials, or are there some magic skills that can substitute in for tact?


...or do all parry wrestle mages run with 90 tact on their templates?

 

[icm420]

Three specials do not require tactics.

Wrestling (disarm/stun punch)

Poisoning (infectious strike) needs weapon skill however, so example is 70 fencing to use a dagger.

Shadow Strike- needs stealth and weapon skill similar to poisoning.

So no wrestle parry mages do not need tactics to use specials. Anatomy and Eval is supposed to be the same as wrestling without specials (saving 20 points total on template) however it doesn't seem to work correctly.

 

[L1Z4RD]

Yes, disarm and stun are the two I am looking for.

Thanks for your quick answer..... However, I had 70 wrestling on a toon a few days back and i tried to do the primary ability and it said I needed 70 skill in weapons and tactics to perform that.


....any ideas? Skill wasn't boosted.....but it was on a dex toon, and not a mage char.

 

[icm420]

That is weird.. with 70 wrestle you should be able to disarm.. if not then it's either a bug or something has been changed that I did not know.

 

[L1Z4RD]

it seems tactics are required now for wrestling specials....LAME.

I can understand its used to balance out these crazy mage templates.....but wrestling should either do more damage or perhaps require less tactic points to perform specials imo.

maybe 30/50 tact skill for specials.

 

[Lynk]

it seems tactics are required now for wrestling specials....LAME.

I can understand its used to balance out these crazy mage templates.....but wrestling should either do more damage or perhaps require less tactic points to perform specials imo.

maybe 30/50 tact skill for specials.

Really? I saw no publish notes indicating this change.

I'm going to test this when I get home.

 

[Podolak]

Really? I saw no publish notes indicating this change.

I'm going to test this when I get home.

I just read this so I tested it myself. My wrestle mage can do specials no problem and has no tactics. Disarmed an opponent as normal.

 

[L1Z4RD]

I wonder why I wasn't able to do the special then..... perhaps it requires high magery and or eval on the template?



Either way, thanks for confirming you dont need tact.

 

[Podolak]

That is certainly a good question. I jumped on test center, removed all of my skills and then set wrestling to 70 (which is the minimum for the primary special). It worked fine.

 

[RawHeadRex]

if you have your hands equiped with a book or shield you need higher dex in order to pull-off disarm etc.

 

[KingHen]

if you have your hands equiped with a book or shield you need higher dex in order to pull-off disarm etc.

That or a SC lantern or even a nifty fishing pole works, or did the last time i tried