Stealth is used largely on this shard to hide and care bear.
Hiding and Stealthing up on someone in ambush to kill them is carebear?
Hiding and Stealthing up on someone to steal from them is carebear?
Carebear is just finding a way to do the gathering and crafting every shard needs done without being endlessly wiped out non stop by someone who's only apparent jollies in playing UO is pking everyone he can?
Carebear is wanting to do something in game besides giving pkers their jollies nonstop?
Carebear is using game skills to not be an easy target and make being pked a challenge for the pker types?
Can ru with his detect hidden and tracking easily kill someone with ninjitsu? Im not sure if peopel didnt understand what bo was say or what. But all you have to do is Smoke bomb and walk away yes ru can follow that but then when he can detect again the timers over and now bo could hide. if someone else reveals the bo he smoke bombs. Just using these names for example
You make a pretty good case here for smoke bombs being the real problem. Lets ban those instead. I'm sure ambushers and thieves would prefer it as well as those who don't want to go through endless healer hunting for rezzes and instead get the gathering and crafting done so people can have stuff they want & need to enjoy the game.
Stealth makes siege like trammel. If your strong and buff and as bad to the bone as you say you are because you play siege. and want the old ruleset you dont hide all day. pre trammel I didnt have to detect hidden people
Knock knock on that closed one track mind. There's more to having an active shard than killing everyone because your bad to the bone. A lot of us don't claim to be bad to the bone at anything more than doing the gathering and crafting that needs to be done to keep a shard economy going.
Pre trammel... yeah that time in the game when the mindless pkers were ruining their fun by driving all their prey out of the game by getting their jollies so much that anyone else in the game couldn't have any fun. The time pkers drove Origin Systems to create Trammel to give the paying customers they were losing because of pkers somewhere to go besides away from the game. The same behavior by pkers that has resulted in every game facet added to the game being tram ruleset instead of fel ruleset. The same behavior behind why their are 24 of 26 shards with near deserted fel facets that EA has to endlessly try and bait people to even visit. The last two Siege and Mugen have even fewer players than the other 24 shards because most players want to do more than pk. You want to turn Siege into pre tram UO and get your jollies for the couple days it would take for every non pker to move back to prodo to do something besides die to pkers who lack the raisins to take on a PvPer?
People come to siege and leave siege, I did in major part because as bo mentioned I dont want to hunt for someone for 8 hours. because everyone is stealthed.
Then toss a couple hundred skill points into Detect Hidden and Tracking. You know, those two skills UO provides to counter Hiding & Stealth? Try pking using tactics instead of brute force, the challenge might be fun. Apparently Kat's enjoyed it for ten years.
I would have no problem with stealth if it wasnt being used to never be seen. so you will never run into a pk etc. its being over used and a large hurt imo
Your revealed and visable by riding a horse to move around the game faster.
Your revealed and visable every time you speak.
Your revealed every time you cast a spell while hunting.
It's only a large hurt to the game for those who don't want to fight a fight they might lose. They won't take on a PvPer who has just as much combat skills as they have. They have to have 720 combat skill points vs someone with only a few hundred skill points of combat skills because the rest are in gathering and crafting skills. That will let them stomp their opponent into the ground and then they'll do that old fel pker routine from back in the old days of dancing around and claiming they owned you and what manly mighty studs they are.
*laughs* what ballsy gutless wonder types so many of you pkers play.