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Township Leadership Meeting Transcript 12/2/2010

EM Dudley

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The following is a transcript of the Township Leadership meeting. Thanks to Tancred for the copy.


Rivi Ravenwynd: Is this an in char or out of char meeting?
Celestial Knight: take it easy Drosse
EM Drosselmeyer: Out of character.
Rivi Ravenwynd: ty
EM Drosselmeyer: Please remain out of character for the duration.
Elder EM Dudley: Good evening everyone
Nastia Cross: Evening
Daria Blackmoore: hiya
Celestial Knight: Hello
Darth Oni: good evening
Elder EM Dudley: Firstly as Dross said
zanku: evening
Miss Watson: Hello
Jane Douleur: good evening
NANOC: Hail
Elder EM Dudley: This is completely out of character
Ozog Giantfart: aarp
Elder EM Dudley: This is us talking to us as Event Moderators
Elder EM Dudley: of Chesapeake
Elder EM Dudley: And what we'd wanted as the leaders of all the townships
Elder EM Dudley: Is there anyone here who does not have full authority over the township they represent?
Elder EM Dudley: As in is there someone you answer to?
Ozog Giantfart: we all report to citizens
Celestial Knight: ozog remove ur fishing pole like em Dross ask please.show respect
Elder EM Dudley: That's the other rule
Elder EM Dudley: Nobody but us speak until we say so
Elder EM Dudley: So I ask again
Elder EM Dudley: Is there anyone here who does not have full authority over the township they represent?
zanku: Jane of Aryslan
zanku: she is on the phone
Celestial Knight: okay raises hand
Elder EM Dudley: Yes?
Celestial Knight: excuse me sir
Celestial Knight: but m Dross ask them
Celestial Knight: to get intoo char
EM Drosselmeyer: out of character.
Celestial Knight: i do not need to be reminded of the rules
Daria Blackmoore: An Corp - Resurrection
Elder EM Dudley: I'm sorry?
Celestial Knight: thank you
Elder EM Dudley: Alright
Elder EM Dudley: As you are aware the purpose of this is to notify and discuss any questions
Elder EM Dudley: Regarding our decision in the township series of events
NANOC: *nods*
Elder EM Dudley: It was our intention that each township would be represented by the highest authority
Elder EM Dudley: Of each township
Elder EM Dudley: I.E. Guildmasters, Administrators
Elder EM Dudley: Anyone who is the #1 top banana
Almthu: Governor on his way
Elder EM Dudley: The point of this is we wanted to talk directly to the people in charge
Almthu: I will be leaving now
Elder EM Dudley: Thank you
Almthu: he will be here in 5 mins
Almthu: called him
Elder EM Dudley: Thank you
Elder EM Dudley: The reason is because we wanted to know who is ultimatley responsible for each township
Elder EM Dudley: And we want to talk to them
Elder EM Dudley: Go right to the top
Elder EM Dudley: Without any intermediary
You see: Winfield [Pax]
You see: Winfield [Pax]
Elder EM Dudley: The township series was born out of a concept on Baja
Miss Watson: KAV and Keys has a group of 4 active OOC Leaders
NANOC: The Governor has arrived
NANOC: Over here sir
NANOC: is your seat
Elder EM Dudley: Ok
Elder EM Dudley: I'm going to say it one more time
Elder EM Dudley: Until we say so, everyone please remain quiet
Elder EM Dudley: There will be a time for disucssion at the end
Elder EM Dudley: Please let us get this out
Elder EM Dudley: As I was saying
Elder EM Dudley: The Township Series was born out of a concept from Baja
Elder EM Dudley: That started during an event EM Seppo ran
Elder EM Dudley: That allowed player run towns to declare allegiance during the Casca Arc
Elder EM Dudley: That system included a banner that decreed allegiance
Elder EM Dudley: The concept then went to Catskills
Elder EM Dudley: And then to here
Elder EM Dudley: The concept was fostered on the predication that it be a system that enhances community
Elder EM Dudley: By bringing together people with common goals
Elder EM Dudley: And common beliefs
Elder EM Dudley: And allowing a way to identify that group discretely
Elder EM Dudley: And allow them to interact better with EM storylines
Elder EM Dudley: My how we have strayed from this
Elder EM Dudley: There is no one person to blame
Elder EM Dudley: Everyone is responsible, including us
Elder EM Dudley: A big part of it is that we were moving into uncharted territory
Elder EM Dudley: And were dealing with some of the most basic human instincts
Elder EM Dudley: Especially when it came to the actual construction of the banners themselves
Elder EM Dudley: Without spending ten minutes reliving the entirity of where it failed
Elder EM Dudley: Let us simply say that the current state, as it came to a pinhead last month
Elder EM Dudley: Is not something we are willing to continue with
Elder EM Dudley: And devote our time to
Elder EM Dudley: It was our first impulse to simply cancel the series entirely
Elder EM Dudley: But we decided that would not be fair
Elder EM Dudley: To the hard work that everyone has put in
Elder EM Dudley: And it wouldn't be fair to ignore the small amount of good that came out of this
Elder EM Dudley: Townships have been given an prilege in this system
Elder EM Dudley: What we have seen is a sense of entitlement that is strangling out any good from this
Elder EM Dudley: Instead of treating the system and it's gifts as the blessing they were
Elder EM Dudley: It became an arena for unwanted drama
Elder EM Dudley: Despite the fact that Townships have been given events cetnered aroun them, somethin no other
Elder EM Dudley: Portion of the community has, it became a sounding board of
Elder EM Dudley: Township X got an event before Township Z and Township Y got two events
Elder EM Dudley: And Township C hasn't gotten any
Elder EM Dudley: this particular example was very nearly the cause of the entire cessation of all township events in
Elder EM Dudley: And we are trying to be extremely clear here
Elder EM Dudley: There are no favorites on Chesapeake
Elder EM Dudley: When we did the events centered at a township, they were done so on one of two basises
Elder EM Dudley: The first was on what made sense from a story perspective
Elder EM Dudley: And the second was, every township was given an equal chance
Elder EM Dudley: In terms of random spawnings with no warning
Elder EM Dudley: But yet there is still a sense of distrust
Elder EM Dudley: THat we, the EMs who are completely unbiased
Elder EM Dudley: Were some how foster an atmosphere of favoritism and pandering
Elder EM Dudley: We don't care how old a township is
Elder EM Dudley: We don't care how big a township is
Elder EM Dudley: We want to tell a story here, and the townships were meant to be involved with that in a way th
Elder EM Dudley: Going to be a bit above and beyond the aspects of the events
Elder EM Dudley: The orcs, the Undead
Elder EM Dudley: These all started at one township as the story directed
Elder EM Dudley: And then were moved on to the random spawning categories
Elder EM Dudley: All of the townships were going to be dealt with in this fashion
Elder EM Dudley: Until all had been involved
Elder EM Dudley: As a jumping off point of story related monster
Elder EM Dudley: But the bickering and finger pointing and general banality we saw as a response
Elder EM Dudley: Stalled us to the point that instead of trying something that promised to be engaging
Elder EM Dudley: And inventive, became a great headache to deal with
Elder EM Dudley: Taking us away from our actual duties as EMs
Elder EM Dudley: Which is to advance storylines through events
Elder EM Dudley: And to provide entertainment
Elder EM Dudley: The only solution was to eliminate it entirely before you all let it tear yourselves apart
Elder EM Dudley: Quite frankly
Elder EM Dudley: The point that the series had gotten to was absurd
Elder EM Dudley: We don't care if you like each other
Elder EM Dudley: In fact it's more fun if you don't like everyone in Roleplay
Darth Oni: *raises a brow*
Elder EM Dudley: It provides conflict, but the point of roleplay is to have fun and that point is being egregiously
Elder EM Dudley: overlooked
Elder EM Dudley: You have to channel things into an IC fashion so that they can be productive instead of destructiv
Elder EM Dudley: I can dislike someone OOC but still tolerate them IC
Elder EM Dudley: Just like in real life you don't always like people you have to work iwth
Elder EM Dudley: You still have to work with them
Elder EM Dudley: The people on the shard may not be people you like, but you are on the shard with them regardles
Elder EM Dudley: And the BEST and ONLY way to move forward as a shard is to try and let all this petty nonsen
Elder EM Dudley: Nonsense fall by the wayside
Elder EM Dudley: And focus on the game
Elder EM Dudley: Have fun
Elder EM Dudley: Join the events
Elder EM Dudley: Every single thing will be centered on you, your group, your township
Elder EM Dudley: Your friends townships
Elder EM Dudley: Or even anything you're always interested in
Elder EM Dudley: So just hang on, and we PROMISE when we do these things we are looking at how the best way t
Elder EM Dudley: Balanced and unbiased is on all levels
Elder EM Dudley: We are here for the Shard's benefit
Elder EM Dudley: And if these township series casue the Shard and its Community to have strife and grief between
Elder EM Dudley: Each other
Elder EM Dudley: The answer is very simple
Elder EM Dudley: And that is to remove the township series entirely and focus on events that everyone can enjoy
Elder EM Dudley: Without causing this sort of strife
Elder EM Dudley: That being said...
Elder EM Dudley: And before we allow you a chance for questions
Elder EM Dudley: Firstly
Elder EM Dudley: We will be finishing the livery quest
Elder EM Dudley: Whether we explore further attempts at township enhancement
Elder EM Dudley: Through the addition of future structures
Elder EM Dudley: Will be determined as we move forward
Elder EM Dudley: And continue to evaluate the series from this point on
Elder EM Dudley: Secondly
Elder EM Dudley: We will not be continuing with the Summit meetings as they existed previously
Elder EM Dudley: We found that nobody was really getting anything out of them
Elder EM Dudley: And it was becoming an arena for people to foster some of the destructive behaviors
Elder EM Dudley: I just spoke about
Elder EM Dudley: Thirdly
Elder EM Dudley: As far as the EM Staff (Us) is concerned
Elder EM Dudley: From this point forward
Elder EM Dudley: We will be dealing with the townships on a completely in character basis
Elder EM Dudley: This means
Elder EM Dudley: That every township shall have a defined leader
Elder EM Dudley: One person
Elder EM Dudley: Whether you have 30 behind the scenes
Elder EM Dudley: That are handling that one person
Elder EM Dudley: Is your business
Elder EM Dudley: We don't want to know about it
Elder EM Dudley: The other townships don't need to know about it as far as these events are concerned
Elder EM Dudley: There needs to be one person
Elder EM Dudley: Who is accountable for the actions of that township
Elder EM Dudley: On an In character basis
Elder EM Dudley: Finally
Elder EM Dudley: And this is the most important
Elder EM Dudley: Should we find out that anyone
Elder EM Dudley: Is propagating any of the behavior we have seen in the past
Elder EM Dudley: If Mesanna, myself or Dross have to get bogged down in some drama
Elder EM Dudley: Between any townships
Elder EM Dudley: On any topic
Elder EM Dudley: We are cancelling the series permanently
Elder EM Dudley: If you have problems with people out of character
Elder EM Dudley: Figure out amongst yourselves
Elder EM Dudley: We are all adults here
Elder EM Dudley: And it is not our job, it is certainly not Mesanna's job
Elder EM Dudley: To mediate between you
Elder EM Dudley: If you can't figure out a way to determine an outcome In Character
Elder EM Dudley: Or settel a dispute in character
Elder EM Dudley: Then we don't want to here about ti
Elder EM Dudley: Hear even
Elder EM Dudley: That's all we've got
Elder EM Dudley: If anyone has any questions
Celestial Knight: raise hand
Jane Douleur: Yes
Tancred RedStar: *raises hand*
Elder EM Dudley: Now is the time
Elder EM Dudley: We will go around the room
Elder EM Dudley: If anyone interjects
Elder EM Dudley: While another person is talking
Elder EM Dudley: You will be removed
Elder EM Dudley: And absolutely no finger pointing
Elder EM Dudley: Of any sort
Elder EM Dudley: If it is not a question about how the EMs will deal with YOUR township
Elder EM Dudley: Do not ask it
Elder EM Dudley: As far as you should be concerned
Elder EM Dudley: It's only us in the room
Elder EM Dudley: Nobody else is here
Elder EM Dudley: We will begin with Celestial Knight
Celestial Knight: yes sir
Celestial Knight: Actions loyalty is to Queen Dawn >if the banner is more trouble
Celestial Knight: please remove it i been a guidl lkeadernow for 15 years
Celestial Knight: i do not need it
Celestial Knight: thank you
Elder EM Dudley: If you would like the banner removed
Elder EM Dudley: You can email us
Celestial Knight: thank you
Elder EM Dudley: Nastia Cross?
Nastia Cross: I have no comments at this time sirs
Elder EM Dudley: Rivi Ravenwynd?
Nyx: In Vas Mani Hur
Rivi Ravenwynd: Are there requirements for my township to remain? like events or mtgs
Elder EM Dudley: As we move forward
Elder EM Dudley: We will be provide events for townships to participate in
Elder EM Dudley: Along those same lines
Elder EM Dudley: The Banner system was a way to enhance the community
Elder EM Dudley: You will be expected to do so to some degree
Elder EM Dudley: It doesn't have to be an event
Elder EM Dudley: But simply being will not be justification for a banner
Elder EM Dudley: Or a spot in the hub
Elder EM Dudley: These aren't decorations
Elder EM Dudley: It's a symbol of a promise to the community
Elder EM Dudley: And your committment to it
Elder EM Dudley: Whatever that may be
Elder EM Dudley: Anything else?
Rivi Ravenwynd: will a list of things that will be expected from a township be made available
Elder EM Dudley: Yes
Elder EM Dudley: Like we said
Rivi Ravenwynd: ty
EM Drosselmeyer: When that is decided, it will be very clearly explained.
Rivi Ravenwynd: one more
Elder EM Dudley: We are handling it on an in character basis
Elder EM Dudley: Yes?
Rivi Ravenwynd: i understand the need to be vague about behaviors that are destructive
Rivi Ravenwynd: but I want to make sure that we dont violate them and I am unclear on what is being referred to
Rivi Ravenwynd: todoay
Rivi Ravenwynd: today
Elder EM Dudley: What we are referring to is any action or behavior
Elder EM Dudley: From one township to another
Elder EM Dudley: That is not an in character action
Elder EM Dudley: Or based in some roleplayed scenario
Elder EM Dudley: If you can't operate along those terms
Elder EM Dudley: If you can't keep it IN THE GAME
Elder EM Dudley: Do not speak to each other
Elder EM Dudley: Because like we said, if it gets back to us again
Elder EM Dudley: We will no longer continue to support the series
Rivi Ravenwynd: ty that is all i have in my head right now
Elder EM Dudley: Nyx?
Nyx: umm
Nyx: In Vas Mani Hur
Nyx: In Vas Mani Hur
Nyx: Speaking in global chat about someone or fighting and calling ppl noobs will or will not be tolerated?
Daria Blackmoore: :}
Nyx: An Nox - Cure
Nyx: I mean I am on nyx alot
Nyx: and I do not rp per say
Nyx: I am just me
EM Drosselmeyer: Alright, the big thing we are talking about here is destructive attitudes and behavoirs
EM Drosselmeyer: Towards other townships and the like
EM Drosselmeyer: Like we said
EM Drosselmeyer: We don't care if you dont like someone
EM Drosselmeyer: You can hate them
EM Drosselmeyer: But There's no need to air it out in public for the world to see
Miss Watson: *raises hand*
EM Drosselmeyer: And there's especially no reason to air it out to or at us
EM Drosselmeyer: We aren't your teachers. We aren't here to be group therapists
EM Drosselmeyer: We're here to run events, and the bottom line is this;
EM Drosselmeyer: If the township events cause you all to bicker and squabble
EM Drosselmeyer: we won't do them
EM Drosselmeyer: I know that things can get heated, and people can have issues
EM Drosselmeyer: I've had plenty with players before
EM Drosselmeyer: But I keep it to myself, try to work it out with the other person
EM Drosselmeyer: If that fails
EM Drosselmeyer: I just let it go, and do my best not to pay them attention
EM Drosselmeyer: Only you can let someone else get to you
EM Drosselmeyer: On the specifics about name calling in general chat
EM Drosselmeyer: During events, it is never called for.
Nyx: if we are not at an event
EM Drosselmeyer: And as townships, people should look to you all as examples
EM Drosselmeyer: You're being given privileges that no other subsection is given
EM Drosselmeyer: So we expect you to act accordingly
EM Drosselmeyer: If you're out in felucca on some random day and fighting
EM Drosselmeyer: And you tell someone they're a terrible fighter
EM Drosselmeyer: Are we going to pull the plug on you?
EM Drosselmeyer: No
EM Drosselmeyer: If you are at an event and start a big argument for no reason with other townships
EM Drosselmeyer: and pepper it with biting insults are we going to take you to task for it?
EM Drosselmeyer: Yes.
EM Drosselmeyer: If you aren't prepared to take responsibility for your actions, don't commit the actions.
EM Drosselmeyer: Did that answer your question?
Nyx: yup fel is fair game
Nyx: ty
EM Drosselmeyer: It's not just fel
EM Drosselmeyer: We don't care what you do on your personal time
Nyx: In Vas Mani Hur
EM Drosselmeyer: Heck, you can argue and fight in private all you want
EM Drosselmeyer: But the moment it bleeds over into the game and affects the events and the shard as a whole?
EM Drosselmeyer: That's when it's our problem.
Nyx: well if I say something in global I am usually in fel
EM Drosselmeyer: Did you have any other questions?
Nyx: no ty
Elder EM Dudley: Daria?
Daria Blackmoore: Aye
Daria Blackmoore: More of a staement really
Daria Blackmoore: Just wanna ty for the opportunity ya'll given us for one
Daria Blackmoore: I know it's wearing on ya'll obviusly
Daria Blackmoore: At one time
Daria Blackmoore: Everyone oof us
Daria Blackmoore: supported each others events and township
Daria Blackmoore: unfortunately
Daria Blackmoore: that was before this eries began
Daria Blackmoore: series even
Daria Blackmoore: I cant say i hold disregard for anyone in this room
Daria Blackmoore: or thier guilds etc
Daria Blackmoore: Just hope in time we can get back to that point
Elder EM Dudley: So do we
Daria Blackmoore: above the smog we dwell in as of now
Daria Blackmoore: I am ashamed it has gone this far
Daria Blackmoore: that is all for me
Daria Blackmoore: ty
Elder EM Dudley: Winfield?
Tancred RedStar: uh
Elder EM Dudley: Oops
Elder EM Dudley: I mean Tancred
Tancred RedStar: I know he looks prettier
Winfield: *nods*
Tancred RedStar: anyway
Elder EM Dudley: Your cape blends in the floor
Elder EM Dudley: *grins*
Tancred RedStar: I apologize for any of the negativity I have contributed that led us here tonight
Tancred RedStar: I apologize to both of you
Tancred RedStar: and to each member of the community
Tancred RedStar: I know I've said some stuff that was not stellar
Tancred RedStar: Ive realized some of it was wrong
Tancred RedStar: and have tried to change things for the better
Tancred RedStar: most all the people in this room
Tancred RedStar: have known each other in some capacity
Tancred RedStar: for years and years
Tancred RedStar: surely we can be better than we are now
Tancred RedStar: I will try to do my best
Tancred RedStar: I humbly ask the same of all of you
Tancred RedStar: one more thing
Elder EM Dudley: Sure
Tancred RedStar: should a person act on behalf of their town
Tancred RedStar: and "ruin" it for everyone
Tancred RedStar: how could that be fair to cancel said events for all?
Tancred RedStar: why not just sanction either them personally or their town?
Tancred RedStar: maybe lead to new town election?
EM Drosselmeyer: Simply put, there's no simple answer here; But in these cases..
EM Drosselmeyer: It's almost never a single person causing or acting on these feelings and the like
Darth Oni: *raises a brow*
EM Drosselmeyer: If some rogue element in your guild or township decides to try and ruin things
EM Drosselmeyer: Then it's up to you as a guild/township to excise that person
Tancred RedStar: I see
EM Drosselmeyer: A guild must take responsibility for those in it's membership
EM Drosselmeyer: If there is a singular incident, it will be handled on its own on a singular basis
Elder EM Dudley: The important thing to realize
EM Drosselmeyer: But if it becomese widespread we will not hesitate to eliminate the series as the source.
Tancred RedStar: thank you
Elder EM Dudley: We are here to put on events to better the community, especially in this case
Elder EM Dudley: If it becomes that we cannot achieve that goal
Elder EM Dudley: We will take the appropriate action
Elder EM Dudley: Also do not mistake this for us saying we will get in the middle of any disputes
Elder EM Dudley: If you can't work it out between yourselves
Elder EM Dudley: Just stop interacting with each other
Elder EM Dudley: If that is the only solution to keep the peace do it
Elder EM Dudley: We simply do not have the time or energy to police everyone
Elder EM Dudley: And that is not our responsibility to the shard
Elder EM Dudley: That's your responsibility as township leaders
Elder EM Dudley: And if it can't be resolved IC and amicably OC
Elder EM Dudley: If it gets too out of hand
Elder EM Dudley: Just walk away from one another
Elder EM Dudley: Anything else Tancred?
Tancred RedStar: mmm
Tancred RedStar: that's all for now, thank you again
Elder EM Dudley: Winfield?
Winfield: I have a comment and question if I may.
Elder EM Dudley: Proceed
Winfield: I applaud your courage to bring these issues to us, as the town leaders here.
Winfield: To fill us in on your frustrations and your approach to help us.
Winfield: I thank you for your frankness.
Winfield: For years we've had towns and major establishments.
Winfield: As we all know, with or without an EM townships series, our towns and establishments will continue.
Winfield: We've had towns since early days
Winfield: and since then there was plenty of OOC jealousy and backstabbing. It is a competitive nature here,
Winfield: even though it was destructive.
Winfield: I hope from this day forward, we learn from our faults of recent and past and do better.
Winfield: I know I learn all the time.
Winfield: My question is about the RP nature now.
Elder EM Dudley: Ok
Winfield: I love the idea of townships being completely inchar as a town.
Winfield: dealing with each other, the crown, the guard, etc.
Winfield: This is what I hoped for in the series.
Winfield: And my question is, will we be able to have a better feeling
Winfield: of the presense of the Crown, or the Guard in the realm, without having to
Winfield: even get on messageforums and such? I know it is hard with limited EM staff.
Elder EM Dudley: That is our hope
Winfield: But maybe thought can be made for that... drop notes in the Queens box.
Elder EM Dudley: Our main focus is being in game
Winfield: I don't see this HOC hall as In Char at all, so I recommend using the Castle Britain or near there.
Winfield: Thank you, and listens now.
Elder EM Dudley: And doing stuff in game
Elder EM Dudley: The mechanics of our world are sometimes limiting
Elder EM Dudley: And it's just easier to get information out through various resources
Elder EM Dudley: I also finally decided to become a grownup
Elder EM Dudley: And by a grownup phone
NANOC: *chuckles*
Elder EM Dudley: Buy even
Elder EM Dudley: With more bells and whistles then my first PC
Elder EM Dudley: So we are pretty much on top of everything
Elder EM Dudley: And I always monitor the various modes of communication
Elder EM Dudley: This allows us more time to do stuff in game
Elder EM Dudley: And cuts down on teh out of game setup
Elder EM Dudley: So it is our hope that by taking this entire series
Elder EM Dudley: Exclusively In Character
Elder EM Dudley: It will be better all around
EM Drosselmeyer: Also, don't worry about the fact that many of you have townships that aren't aligned with the cro
EM Drosselmeyer: crown. One reason we work to make new and compelling characters is for their future usefulness
EM Drosselmeyer: While those with the crown can expect the Guard and the Crown's ambassadors/envoys
EM Drosselmeyer: Everyone can expect certain sets of RPC's, such as the Gypsies
EM Drosselmeyer: Who were and are still going to be a continuing thing here on Chesapeake
EM Drosselmeyer: And there will be anti crown RPC's as well for those against the crown.
EM Drosselmeyer: Anything else, Winfield?
Winfield: Nothing else, thanks.
EM Drosselmeyer: Nanoc?
NANOC: No questions at this time I believe the others are doing a fine job *smiles* as well as you
EM Drosselmeyer: Thank you
NANOC: Dudley and Dross
Elder EM Dudley: Thankee
EM Drosselmeyer: Zanku?
zanku: yes sir
EM Drosselmeyer: Any questions or comments you wish to relay?
zanku: well, I know from our end as a township
zanku: we enjoy the events alot
zanku: the only question i have
zanku: is
zanku: if we as a township are doing an event
zanku: and we have one opf our menbers that gets out of line
zanku: how do we handkle it while the event is going on?
zanku: I am
zanku: refering to an instance that occured at the caravan event
zanku: if that was one of our own, how would we handle that there?
Elder EM Dudley: That is entirely up to you as the guild leader
Elder EM Dudley: We aren't going to cancel the series
Elder EM Dudley: Because one person at an event acted like a donkey
Elder EM Dudley: Some of your fellow Township Leaders
Elder EM Dudley: Have years of experience dealing with Guilds
Elder EM Dudley: So you could always ask some of them for advice
Elder EM Dudley: I was a pretty cutrhoat guild leader
zanku: :)
Elder EM Dudley: Based on the situation
Elder EM Dudley: I'd likely have them hanged or imprisoned
Darth Oni: o
Elder EM Dudley: But that's just me
zanku: me to
Elder EM Dudley: Anything else?
zanku: no sir and thank you
Elder EM Dudley: Ozog?
Ozog Giantfart: kins wees still bites and pees on people?
Elder EM Dudley: So long as it isn't us
Elder EM Dudley: *grins*
EM Drosselmeyer: Also
EM Drosselmeyer: IC actions are okay
EM Drosselmeyer: Like we said, we expect conflict between people
EM Drosselmeyer: It's natural
Ozog Giantfart: okilies
EM Drosselmeyer: If you're tryikng to tell a story, there need sto be a conflict
Ozog Giantfart: girkle
EM Drosselmeyer: But KEEP IT IN CHARACTER.
EM Drosselmeyer: For example
EM Drosselmeyer: Gwen will insult and grumble and sigh exasperatedly at people all the time
EM Drosselmeyer: but it's all in character
EM Drosselmeyer: If you keep it in character, you can still have these conflicts
Ozog Giantfart: yerg
EM Drosselmeyer: And NOT cause a big scene or problem with people
EM Drosselmeyer: Like we said about the profanity issue with us
EM Drosselmeyer: It's about respect more than anything
EM Drosselmeyer: Provided you treat people right ooc, most IC things are fine.
Ozog Giantfart: meees only cusses in goblin
EM Drosselmeyer: Some players hate orcs, some hate humans, some hate elves, some hate goblins, etc
Ozog Giantfart: MEN GHEC AN
EM Drosselmeyer: That's fine; That's part of roleplaying
EM Drosselmeyer: Just don't let it bleed over to OOC stuff
EM Drosselmeyer: Simple as that.
EM Drosselmeyer: I've been a roleplayer in UO for as long as I can remember
EM Drosselmeyer: Some of the most fun I've had were big IC fights and arguments, that despite our CHARACTERS
EM Drosselmeyer: By the end hating each others guts, We as PLAYERS were laughing and having fun.
Ozog Giantfart: yerg
EM Drosselmeyer: Did you have anything else?
Ozog Giantfart: nerg
Elder EM Dudley: Oni?
Ozog Giantfart: girkle
Darth Oni: aye
Darth Oni: what kind of event we can expect..
Darth Oni: or allowed to ask yas?
Darth Oni: for example...
Darth Oni: i still have the playground that vladimere builded up ffor use
Darth Oni: for my knight games
Darth Oni: i'm sadly cant host at momtn trouing
Darth Oni: short game time...
Darth Oni: *touring
Darth Oni: its still for use?
Elder EM Dudley: If there are events you would like support for
Elder EM Dudley: You can email us and we will work with you to help
Elder EM Dudley: That stuff you can still feel free to use
Elder EM Dudley: As far as our arc events
Elder EM Dudley: Events that advance the story
Elder EM Dudley: We will take aspects and fold them into the story
Elder EM Dudley: You can then take it back to your township and do what you wish with it
Elder EM Dudley: Our storyline will progress as we already plan
Elder EM Dudley: What you can do is take it back to your township
Elder EM Dudley: And do what you'd like to do with it
Darth Oni: k
Elder EM Dudley: Anything else?
Darth Oni: thank you
Darth Oni: not right now...
Elder EM Dudley: Miss Watson?
Darth Oni: most is allrdy answered
Darth Oni: *smiles*
Miss Watson: I have no comment or questions at this time
Elder EM Dudley: Demon Slayer?
Demon Slayer: so most townships need to complete just 1 more livery quest to get a stablemaster right ?
Darth Oni: *shakes head*
Elder EM Dudley: Some do
Elder EM Dudley: I wouldn't say most
Demon Slayer: ok
Elder EM Dudley: They won't be built until late December/January
Elder EM Dudley: Anything else?
Demon Slayer: no thank you
Elder EM Dudley: Jane?
Jane Douleur: I have a comment and a question
Elder EM Dudley: Ok
Jane Douleur: the comment is, it is a shame that the indiscretions of a few led to all to be punished
Jane Douleur: i am "old school" RP where we had to create everything
Jane Douleur: perhaps the gifts are too much of a focus, and maybe going back to barebones is the way to go
Jane Douleur: question is, are we still able to email for assistance with town events?
Elder EM Dudley: Yes
Jane Douleur: thank you
Elder EM Dudley: Please be aware though
Elder EM Dudley: That we won't be honoring requests for individual fiction event support
Elder EM Dudley: Instead we will fold those requests
Elder EM Dudley: Into the township event series
Jane Douleur: i am refering to the blood regatta
Elder EM Dudley: For contests and festivals
Elder EM Dudley: You can email us
Elder EM Dudley: And we will do our best to accomodate
Jane Douleur: excellent, thanks
Elder EM Dudley: Was there anything else?
Jane Douleur: no thank you for clearing this up for us all
Elder EM Dudley: Thakria?
Thakria: not at this time sirs thank you
Elder EM Dudley: Alright
Elder EM Dudley: Before you all depart
Elder EM Dudley: Two things
Elder EM Dudley: Firstly
Elder EM Dudley: We need to know the primary leader of each township
Elder EM Dudley: For most townships it is who sits here tonight
Elder EM Dudley: But for others who sent representatives
Elder EM Dudley: We need to know who is in charge
Elder EM Dudley: Please deposit a book in the mailbox outside
Jane Douleur: Jamlyn is in charge of Aryslan
Elder EM Dudley: With that information
Elder EM Dudley: Secondly, Dross has some books
Darth Oni: phew...
Rivi Ravenwynd: one more question please *raises hand*
Jane Douleur: thanks
Elder EM Dudley: Yes Rivi?
Rivi Ravenwynd: Will the HOC mtgs remain OOC
Elder EM Dudley: Yes
Elder EM Dudley: The HoC Meetings are always Out of Character
Elder EM Dudley: And will continue forever
Rivi Ravenwynd: so that ppl can give feedback freely without consequences to the townhip or the series
Elder EM Dudley: No matter what
EM Drosselmeyer: Constructive criticism is always welcome
Elder EM Dudley: Aye
Rivi Ravenwynd: great ty
Nyx: An Nox - Cure
EM Drosselmeyer: Also
Elder EM Dudley: Operative word being Constructive
Elder EM Dudley: The event sucked is not constructive
Rivi Ravenwynd: yes i know
EM Drosselmeyer: Exactly
Elder EM Dudley: Nobody here has an issue with that
Rivi Ravenwynd: but punisghing a towship or the series fora person stating occc opinion
Elder EM Dudley: We value feedback from each of you
Elder EM Dudley: No, that won't be the case
Rivi Ravenwynd: kk ty
Rivi Ravenwynd: I am done
Rivi Ravenwynd: ty
EM Drosselmeyer: As for the books
EM Drosselmeyer: The books I meant were the ones that vanished at the collapse of the castle
EM Drosselmeyer: From the Storming the Gates event
EM Drosselmeyer: Though I don't always do it, I try to keep a spare copy of most in game fiction for such occasion
EM Drosselmeyer: So if anyone wanted to make copies, I will leave them here for a short time
Jane Douleur: thanks
Elder EM Dudley: We'll set em out at the HoC as well
Daria Blackmoore: Perhaps a permanant home at the shard reward hall
Daria Blackmoore: a lil library section be good reading!~
NANOC: Good idea Daria
EM Drosselmeyer: That's a good suggestion, and we'll look into it
EM Drosselmeyer: Any other questions?
Tancred RedStar: aye
Elder EM Dudley: Tancred?
Tancred RedStar: would it possible to have a meeting like this every few months
Tancred RedStar: so ew can talk straight without distractions
zanku: :)
Nastia Cross: *nods*
Tancred RedStar: leader to leader
Elder EM Dudley: That's what our plan is
Tancred RedStar: etc
Tancred RedStar: ok great
Winfield: *raises hand*
Elder EM Dudley: The Summit meetings were becoming a bit cumbersome
Elder EM Dudley: The major difference
Tancred RedStar: they were turning into a stage
Elder EM Dudley: Will be that any future meeting will be In Character
Elder EM Dudley: With an RPC
Elder EM Dudley: We won't be bringing everyone together
Elder EM Dudley: To hash out our concerns about OC behavior
Ozog Giantfart: which mailbox?
Elder EM Dudley: If we get to that point again
Elder EM Dudley: The main one outside
Elder EM Dudley: The series will be cancelled
Elder EM Dudley: Anyone else?
EM Drosselmeyer: Intruder!
Winfield: I have a question.
Elder EM Dudley: Yes?
Winfield: For the primary leader for these books,
Ozog Giantfart: putem in basement
Winfield: do you mean the leader In Character, or OOC?
Elder EM Dudley: I ban thee
You see: Clement the gypsy
Winfield: Our mayor of PaxLair City is an orc.
Elder EM Dudley: OOC
Winfield: He is the leader, but does not go to meetings.
EM Drosselmeyer: The person who is RESPONSIBLE for the townships actions.
Elder EM Dudley: Yes
Winfield: I represent PaxLair City therefore as it's governor.
Winfield: For OOC actions or in-char actions?
Winfield: I know, it hurts our heads.
Elder EM Dudley: If you want to do both that's fine
EM Drosselmeyer: Actually, if anyone already put theirs in
EM Drosselmeyer: and they have one person for OOC, one person for IC
Winfield: Will just be me for PaxLair city for now. But if Ga'kuct shows up, he's the Mayor in character.
EM Drosselmeyer: Then please put another book in with both; thinking about it , it will assist us with RPC...
Winfield: I understand. We'll make it work.
Elder EM Dudley: We are basically trying to get a sense of who administrats your township
Winfield: Thanks.
Winfield: That would be me.
Winfield: Thanks.
Jane Douleur: question please
Elder EM Dudley: A good way to put it is...
Elder EM Dudley: If you look up and there is nobody above you
Elder EM Dudley: That's the name we'd want
Elder EM Dudley: yes Jane?
Jane Douleur: in Aryslans case
Jane Douleur: Jam could not be here
Jane Douleur: we do not want to miss out on this information
Jane Douleur: should you be emailed prior should the leader be absent?
Darth Oni: *rasies hand*
Nyx: In Vas Mani Hur
Nyx: In Vas Mani Hur
Nastia Cross: *raises hand*
Elder EM Dudley: From here on out
Elder EM Dudley: These will be in character dealings
Elder EM Dudley: So we don't care who shows up
Elder EM Dudley: For the purposes of out of character administration
Elder EM Dudley: That's what we'd like to know
Jane Douleur: ok
Elder EM Dudley: Oni?
Ozog Giantfart: oh goos da whole mob kin comes
Darth Oni: was close same asking...
Darth Oni: cuz since me living
Darth Oni: in germany
Darth Oni: i nto always can make it
Darth Oni: *not
Elder EM Dudley: I hear there was a bad snowstorm in Germany
Darth Oni: aye
NANOC: *laughs*
NANOC: she has been shoveling for 2 days now
Darth Oni: and i had to snow shipp!
Darth Oni: *nods*
Elder EM Dudley: Two of my coworkers were delayed on a flight to South Africa
Elder EM Dudley: I do hope everything turns out alright
Darth Oni: *chuckles*
Darth Oni: well..
Elder EM Dudley: But yes, you can send representatives
Nyx: In Vas Mani Hur
Elder EM Dudley: To the In Charcter proceedings in the future
Elder EM Dudley: Nastia?
Nyx: In Vas Mani Hur
Darth Oni: ok thx
Nastia Cross: I just wanted to mention
Nastia Cross: that both IC and OOC we have a council of leaders
Nastia Cross: so IC the interactions we would include the council
Nastia Cross: is that within parameters?
Elder EM Dudley: Yes
Nyx: In Vas Mani Hur
Nyx: In Vas Mani Hur
Nastia Cross: Thanks
Nyx: In Vas Mani Hur
Elder EM Dudley: Anyone else?
Elder EM Dudley: Did anyone records this ?
Elder EM Dudley: Record even?
Tancred RedStar: I have in journal
Tancred RedStar: is it ok to post or prefer I dont?
Daria Blackmoore: tis all in me head!
Elder EM Dudley: Could you please forward it to both of us
Daria Blackmoore: lol
Elder EM Dudley: It's free knowledge
Elder EM Dudley: We aren't trying to keep secrets here
Tancred RedStar: ok
Elder EM Dudley: We just wanted to extend the courtesty to the leadership first
Tancred RedStar: I will have to edit out all the dirty jokes in alliance chat first
Elder EM Dudley: Of informing them of our decision
Elder EM Dudley: Before the general populace
Jane Douleur: haha
Elder EM Dudley: *grins*
Ozog Giantfart: girkle
Elder EM Dudley: But yes, feel free to post
Tancred RedStar: ok
NANOC: Thank you
Elder EM Dudley: And if you could send to both of us that would be greatly appreciated
Tancred RedStar: I shall
Daria Blackmoore: heck send it my way to
Daria Blackmoore: i will never remember
Daria Blackmoore: *chuckles*
Ozog Giantfart: kins meees habe my stool?
Tancred RedStar: want fries with that?
Elder EM Dudley: *grins*
Daria Blackmoore: a lil shake too woot
Elder EM Dudley: Thank you all for attending
Tancred RedStar: I will
Elder EM Dudley: We look forward to the future
Nastia Cross: No, thank you
NANOC: Thank you both for the fine job and dedication you give to Chessy
Winfield: Thanks Dudley and Dross.
Elder EM Dudley: You are most welcome
Elder EM Dudley: G'nite everyone
Nastia Cross: Night
Jane Douleur: nite
Ozog Giantfart: *tugs ha ha hat*
Miss Watson: Good night
EM Drosselmeyer: Thank you all and take care
Elder EM Dudley: *jingle jingle*
zanku: yes , thank you and hope to have these meetings again
Elder EM Dudley: *jingle*
 
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Tancred RedStar

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I'm glad we had this meeting and thankful to both the EM's and the players involved for participating. I think it got some stuff that was on a lot of peoples minds, however it differed in their imaginations, and cleared things up as well as outlined the way things should be from now on. We should all see this as a prime opportunity to improve the nature of community on Chesapeake, reflecting on how things were in the past and how they can be in the future if we're willing to each contribute in a positive and creative fashion.
 

whiterabbit

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meees had noos idea wot was being talked to usins. still don'ts
 
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Gowron

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To the EMs,

Thanks for posting this, and I am still digesting this. I offer my apologies for my part in the hooplah. It's sometimes difficult to realize in the midst of event frustrations that you folks are gamers too, and most likely not really compensated by EA proportionately to what you deal with regarding us.
I'll offer suggestions later as I digest the results of this meeting with my guild leader and mates.
 

Sean

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Looks like it was productive and actually overdue. Here's hoping folks can keep the bigger picture in mind and forget the petty BS.
 
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