I only played for about half an hour last night. It was a nice and sweet short fight, then i found barracoon sitting by himself in on the island.
I'd really like to get them to show in the post. Especially when i get an AMAZING katrina's crook or something worth showing. And btw, NONE of us do justice to the chase through the pics. Im going to have to tap that button like the old nintendo games and make a slideshow.
You've caught me I guess, heh. I love using a disguise kit.. but only to get close to people, not to convince them to do something. But that is another argument for another day.
I like you man but, actually this IS the argument of this thread. The thread was a response to the permission given by the mod on the april TOTM to make "another thread".
Shin calm down. Stop letting them get a rise out of you everytime they post. Notice Green barely ever posts if its not to **** you off.
Heres the breakdown as I see it after already typing all this crap you guys got lucky and I accidentally hit back before i could post so its gonna be shorter.
FACTS
Persuasion Thief = CON to get the target to be ******** enough to do something stupid to make the otherwise unstealable item stealable.
Persuasion Thief = USING THE STEAL SKILL to make the steal. Making the action a theft, labeling the perpetraitor (spellcheck me rico) a thief.
Persuasion Thief = CONing thief = Cunning thief. Congratulations guys.
the other side
NO RISK... Not all acts of persuasion stealing happen in someones house. I have witnessed Shinobi talk people into uninsureing their items sitting at a fel bank. (empath abby of all places) AS well as outside moongates, YES in the guardzones, and outside the thieves fortress. OUTSIDE in FEL, to BLUES AND REDS, who ARE CAPABLE OF KILLING YOU.
My inquis steal that was set up by shinobi happend OUTSIDE his house. and i was chased around the OUTSIDE of his house.
The real issue here is that either people are not giving the persuasion thieves the credit for stealing from players or they think that the persuasion thieves are *******. Well FACT from above says that it is from players, so get over it and stop posting arguements that fail to give credit to the; theft from a player, part of this. (Doctor Martine would shoot me for my grammar now)
Given the nature of the thefts you could claim that the thief in question may be afraid of a little danger given the recurring circumstances. But to say that they are "not thieves" is rediculous. To say that the thief is a *****, wuss, or any spineless name meaning "afraid of danger" makes some sense though unnecessary.
I know your going to mock my outline and make it all out to say scam which wont be hard, in my original i already did it. But heres where I HOPE this post sticks. A scam is a synonym for con. Con is a synonym for how we use the word persuasion. This point should not be argued anymore than you should be argueing that the "persuasion thieves" are not thieves. So from technical verbal/textual point you are correct in calling these people scammers. It fits the technical definition just as well as the word thief. The thing to realize is that constantly calling these people and their method scamming is attacking them. "Scammer" has a far more negative connotation than "Con artist" or "persuasion thief", and we all realize it, and some are motivated by that to keep it up. So by following any sort of logic at all shouldnt calling someone any thing in attempt to put them down or illicit a negative respons be considered a negative action? I'm not going to go searching through the rules, but wouldnt that be something worth some kind of negative repercussion (check me again PLEEEEEzE) I know that either Quenchant or Tozouko has already warned on another thread that we need to stop calling eachother scammers. So give it up already. Im not sure where the line for banning is, but we've got to be pushing it.
The word scammer as it has been thrown around so much should become a word that will get you flagged. like any list of "****". In fact it should be considered worse than any amount of swearing because used indirectly half of the words that get edited are not meant in any offensive manner, but are somehow taboo. SCAM however is meant to be offensive 90+% of the time its used and should not be allowed.
I dont usually advocate peace, I really enjoy getting a rise out of people, "Trolling" if you will. However I dont feel like this forum is the place for it. We've all got people we can go irritate who arent thieves. By our own code we're supposed to at least be civil with each other. By constantly attacking a valid method and the people who use it you are "Trolling" our forum, and should be removed.
All of the points in my first post have been adressed. Thank you for the help with the pictures. I am done with this thread. "This thread has come full circle.", Petra Fyde.
