Actually yes you did say that Bulls get you were you want to go, the fact that you did not say what you may have meant is just that, may have meant. Who knows what you really think.
I really thought you'd understand when someone gave an example critter in a sentence by now. Oh well.
Good so now we agree that you did assert that one can reach legendary Lore, Taming and Veterinary on Bulls, which is true, if you can live long enough.
You equate Slow to something, but I suspect that more than one individual will say that Slow = Hard = Not worth doing.
Yes, I just said that... some people think slow is hard, but it's still slow. Hard would be having to tame aggressive critters all the way, for example. The fact that a player can setup a script to train taming then leave it unattended for hours, would suggest that it's both straightforward and low risk.
A) You apparently do not tame aggressive Mob's, for skill gain. If you had, Dragons, Drakes, White Wyrms, Nightmares etc you would know you DO NOT GET GAINS there. Yes you can get a GGS but no other gains. This is even when taming them at required to tame +5 skill level. Yes you do get to spend a lot of insurance money because they kill you a lot.
B) You are a scriptor. No wonder you have such contempt for Tamers.
Slow, means that yeah One can be burned out in the monumental effort it takes to become legendary on your Bulls. Even when one can buy ones way up to the HARD to get level of 85, like you and every one else does, except me, according to your rationalization of why taming must be made monumentally harder, than it already is, so there can be REAL tamers.
Training = monumentally harder because you have to train? LOL. I'm about to delete a tamer and start training again from zero, and re-training another char from zero at the same time. That must make me some kind of genius or something. Nah, it doesn't. I just tame what needs to be tamed and get on with it.
No Monumentally hard as in you dont get gains except as dictated by the GGS.
Yes as in the previous quote, you place no value on tamers because you script your tamers. If is interesting, that now you sing the song that every one, but you, uses advanced character tokens.
So why is it, that your not saying that Advanced Character Tokens should be removed from the game. I mean I am clearly the only person in UO that does not use them according to you, so there for am I far more qualified to call my self a tamer than the ones that bought their way up?
I don't agree with advanced chars either, never did. Why would I like one way of buying skill and not another?
Funny, else where your said that everyone uses advanced character tokens to make a tamer in 2 days at legendary skill levels for lore, taming and veterinary. Is this another case of you not saying what you meant? The last time I checked everyone is a rather inclusive word. But regardless good for you that you script from 0 to Legendary and deride/criticize those that use Advanced Character Tokens and the HARD way of running around, taming, loring etc.
It is heartening to see you now include every one, apparently, in that desire to remove Jewelry and all the mods. That isn't what you said exactly, but if not then your still protecting some mods being left in the game.
I have always said I don't like skill + items for any class. Not one of my characters relies on said items and never will for that very reason.
And yet you have all these crappy jewelry that you assured me was superior to mine and all these jewelry that you try to vendor and no one buys.
So you don't like jewelry, you advocate that it should be removed from the game, thus imposing your view point on others.
Yet you collect it and sell it. AND NO ONE BUYS IT.
I would have thought a principled person would have destroyed it.
In the end, it is clear you do not like UO's Tamers. You want them to be significantly nerfed. That you hold UO's Tamers in contempt and view their play style as trivial if not cheating.
I on the other hand make no judgment about UO's Tamers. They are what they are and if they are having fun then great what else could EA/Mythic ask for?
Did I enjoy Tamers more, the way it was, Trammel + 8 Months? Most certainly.
Would I like to see a reversion to that time MINUS ALL THE EXPLOITS AND BUGS? Most certainly.
Is it going to happen? Oh Hades no and I would kick EA/M in the shins if they did. What a waste of spent resources to get us here, were people are having fun. Then expend even more resources to get us back to were we are now, with no significant change. Except a lot of EA/M resources being spent to undo then redo things, just because people ......