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Name me a fruitful discussion on these forums, Devin, or one which has as much potential to be. Nah, actually, don't say anything at all, because I've spent five minutes already trying to figure out why you'd try and kill the discussion, and can only surmise as Snoopy did. Ya kinda seem a little on the pathetic side, like maybe you've been left out or something, and are bitter about it.
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LOL, No it couldnt be Jango Fett of close to 5 years of the same topic with the same type of people who begin a thread as if they are going to change the world.
And how did I try to kill a discussion? I have no ability to do so. I have not quite reached the 5th circle of telekinesis and telepathy at the moment. I am working on it. After you finish this next brew take a gander over to the left. You will see no shield attached to my name.
Many here can attest that I am not a simply go with the crowd person and typically does his own thing even if I am the only one voicing that opinion. I often go out on that limb to inject another viewpoint. I am not here to win a popularity contest but thanks for the personal psychoanalysis.
You, an Athiest started this thread with what intent? Certainly NOT to learn about the culture of differnent people but to belittle and for what? I will get to that in your last paragraph.
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This is a topic that genuinely interests those that are posting here, otherwise they wouldn't be posting. Who cares whether you think that anything "fruitful" could come of it.
Who cares what you'd consider "fruitful" other then yourself? Go post your same crap on those countless other repub vs demos threads, and if you're just simply tired of seeing the same thread on the first page, well then...too bad bruthah!
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Was that a sober response? How many did ya down to come up with this? Hmmm, it seems you care to make a reply to me to tell me you dont care. It is a topic of interest but your intent was not to learn but to belittle. People post to defend their belief system as well. They can interpret this as an attack upon who and what they believe in and certainly not a position of they come here to get enlightened. This is why it is a topic of interest.
Politics ebbs and flows. I certainly do not post with the belief that I am going to change minds. It is why I find links to be fruitless since they will be dismissed anyway. Peoples minds are already made up. This is a forum created by a gaming host who created this so we could come here and blither as if we are important and stay off the forums that were intended for game discussion. I know I know that is just me being bitter at not being important and certainly not insight to the truth of it all that NONE of us are actually changing anything NOR actually part of anything that has the ability to change anything and in the end our discussions here dont mount to ****. The only thing that matters is any bond that is created between posters which is happening outside of the discussion arena.
I do not have Xians or any other group come knocking on my door. At least not for a very very long time. Do you? Is this why such a need to start a religion thread? Those of "faith" can be annoying but so can those who claim "no faith."
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In the meantime, I'd like to answer Jermosh, and would ask that you do your best to realize that your angst is your own and that I'm sure you're old enough and have been through enough therapy to get over your
egocentricity that you can deal with it.
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Again, how many beers is that? You are the one who started this thread and again for what purpose? Certainly not to objectively learn of others cultures but where you could spout off your superior intellect to all "the little monkeys who still play with idols." You are far more evolved for that kind of BLINDNESS. Again ask YOURSELF as an athiest why are you so bent on disproving them? Perhaps it is therapy that YOU need to seek to answer those deep inner problems you have. It goes beyond a religion's disbelief in modern medicine. If you were ****d by some priest as a child or an adult then you have my deepest apologies.
I know I know you never started this thread because you wanted to be important nor yourself have feelings of not being important and powerless to change the world from this wrongful thinking of diety. Nope not you. I am simply bitter because nobody loves me. *sniff sniff*
As for snoop doggy dog he is waaaaaay off base. This is an informal arena. There is no grade here. Topics meander back and forth. In a classroom environment they should be structured. This class that starts tomorrow is about World Religions. It is their understanding of them. How they came to be, how they developed, and in what form are they today. It IS NOT a forum for the disproving of any of them. It is not an arena to say which is right and which is wrong. It is not some pulpit to promote any form of dogma whether from the "faith" or "no faith" side. Problem is that two sides of coin simply cannot shut the up for a minute. Now since I was there perhaps I actually know what happened and neither of you do. Scientifically there just might be a probability of that. Both classes were dropped not only because of classroom discussions that turning into pulpits for people to NOT discuss but to support their own belief system and that includes the "no faith" group but dropped due to the fact I was on call all the time. My workload changed at the time. Working fulltime means can only take a certain payload. This is a different job and I have the "hot potato" every 7th week. I look at the subject from a historical aspect. Religion has been with Man since well probably since we fell out of a tree. I am not here to convert nor am I here to unconvert others but then to unconvert would be to convert them to my belief system, would it not. A rhetorical question since most Athiests spin and will blither they dont have one, most that I have encountered.
No in both those classes discussions turned into someone of one belief not approaching with an open mind and stating the wrongness of that particular religion and when we get to J/C/I which is typically the tail end we now have the athiest piping in. We then have the two groups combatting heads. Again what was the scope of the class? It was to discuss the meaning of that religion etc not to dismiss it. Do I hold both Instructors accountable for not having better control? Yes, but we have a limited time for lecture and since the discussions are not but two sides trying to convert one another what the lecture was about is lost. I pay to have the class. I dont pay here. If I pay I want better service. That is my right as a paying customer. This is no different than any other class I have had where some Egghead feels the need to throw out his intellect to impress the rest of the class and talk outside the scope of the current topic. Gee, lets talk about javascript completely outside the scope of the class when the current lecture is on inserting an image and again the class is to never get into javascript. It is a waste of the rest of the paying customers time. In a non paying environment fine, but not in a paying environment. If the class is beneath their current knowledge then they either dont take the class or do as the rest of us do, they pretend that this topic is new to them and stay within the scope because they need the class to complete which ever program they are following. I have taken many classes that were beneath my then current knowledge because it was part of the needed curriculum. I have sat next to people who were lot younger, had no job, still lived at home, and viewed things conceptually because they had little to no practical knowledge of that profession. Did I tell them that? No, they had no clue. I listened to them as if everything was new.
Now I dont care for organized religion as well. People take offense to that because they believe I am saying their belief system is wrong. NO I am against the Jerry Falwell's of the world who have conned little old ladies in sending their last dollar to them thinking that Jerry would get them that Hope when according to their own belief system they dont need Jerry and could be eating something more than cat food. I am not against the local churches who do go out and make a difference in the community. In that I mean instilling that people need to look out for their fellow neighbors, going out and cleaning up neighborhoods, feeding the homeless, etc. I am completely against the guilt trip that many attempt employ to get you to join their "club."
Can I get off the couch now? Are we done.
