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(Question) Lag Spikes? Is anyone else having nice little lag spikes??

Lady_Rachel

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Yes I am..and I talked to a few others that are too.
Freezing up, coming back in a few seconds sometimes. Other times
I am frozen and have to close down and relog to get it to run.
Course the monsters don't lag!
 

Rya.II

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same and I just don't feel safe to do anything on atlantic right now...
I just fear another revert or whatever problems incoming :(
 

CottonEyeJoe104

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Yea my entire guild has been having them since UO performed that "server upgrade/maintenance" back in early December.
 

Bleak

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Can you provide more information? What times were you playing, what were you doing during this time, and how long was the delay? Any other relevant information is welcome as well, thanks.
 

SlobberKnocker

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cotton and i are in the same guild on atl. time doesnt matter. we are always in a pvp environment. i play mostly 8-11 pm.
 

Lord Lew

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Bleak, time does not matter, it's consistent throughout the day. The spikes can be short and long, and are not location dependent. The long spikes can be quite deadly in the right circumstances.

Many of us are truly worried by them, as they preceded the revert last time. Please reassure us that it will not happen again, I doubt you will find the response agreeable.
 
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Tazar

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I am not sure if it is the only issue - but something seems to be lagging on the client side... there are times when I am dragging my courser across the screen and suddenly it locks up and movement stops for a moment.
 

NuSair

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It could be client side- I play side by side with my wife and when we are in the same area, the lag spike hits usually at the same time, but not always (we do champ spawns together)- when we are in separate areas, when one gets a lag spike, the other doesn't. The lag is up to 10+ seconds.
 
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Tazar

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I know many in my group play the Enhanced Client (with and without Pinco's) and we are all seeing the lag. The one left playing the Classic Client hasn't been seeing a problem. Is anyone on the classic client seeing the lag spikes?
 
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Tazar

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We both play on the classic client.
Interesting... probably not so much of a client side issue then. I've been watching other shards for similar comments and have not seen any. I guess if anyone can get a traceroute (preferably while the lag spike hits) it would help.
 

NuSair

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I don't think that is it, because I'll get a lag spike and my wife won't. Sounds like a client or server issue.
 

CottonEyeJoe104

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Can you provide more information? What times were you playing, what were you doing during this time, and how long was the delay? Any other relevant information is welcome as well, thanks.
It seems to happen all day. More at night (during what I'd assume is heavier load). I play mostly in fel so could be facet related. It defiantly happens more around the yew moongate, then it does in say dungeons. But I've had it happen everywhere. Despse, Destard, T2A... Seems to be roughly every 20-30minutes like clock work. I'll try and pay attention and write down the times and PM you the times I feel or see it. That way you can check your error logs to see if something is occurring at those times.
I play on the classic client. Can't stand the look of the new one...
 

NuSair

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8:50pm EST Atlantic- guild was killing Travesty and we all lag spiked.
 

Lady_Emma

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Bleak, time does not matter, it's consistent throughout the day. The spikes can be short and long, and are not location dependent. The long spikes can be quite deadly in the right circumstances.

Many of us are truly worried by them, as they preceded the revert last time. Please reassure us that it will not happen again, I doubt you will find the response agreeable.
I have been having major lag spikes the past couple of days. today 12/30 @ 9:00 EST had to stop playing. Happened several times earlier as well as a couple of days ago i could not play at all.
 

CottonEyeJoe104

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Since I read that post, and til now (when I logged) this is the lag spikes and time, and location:

12/30/2012 (all times are EST, and on CLASSIC client)
8:45pm - East of Skara Brae
9:03pm - Login Server - hanged on connecting as switching chars
9:34pm - Hythloth Dungeon
10:05pm - Hythloth Dungeon
10:35pm - Outside Hythloth Dungeon
All of these are in FEL.

They all last i'd say between 6-10 seconds. Doesn't seem like much but if your in combat against a thrower or an archer, their weapon continues to throw.... so when everyone recovers from lag, good chance someone is just going to drop... funny until it happens to you lol.
 

Queen Arya

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I play classic client-the spikes I fear I have come to live with- The most annoying part of the spikes for me is placing items in my backpack or chests
I play Atlantic- I play all facets-pretty much covered every area of the game over the weekend due to searching for idocs- there doesnt seem to be specific areas or times- and like a previous statement it also happens when logging on- there are spikes-then longer freezes and crashes
 

Cetric

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can confirm i see this as well, it seems to tend to happen to everyone around me when it happens. it'll be some big fight, i'll lock up for 5s or so expecting to be dead, and everyone seems to start moving again at roughly the same time.

Playing Atlantic, time doesn't matter, but is very intermittent.
 
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Lord Lew

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It happens alone, in my house in Fel, very low graphic area. I play mostly on classic, but it happens on EC as well. It's not location or load specific, and it's random enough that getting a good trace log is near impossible. I guess I can sit logged in and run it over and over till I hit the spike. I don't remember this specific issue happening before the move to Amazon, and the hardware upgrade.
 

Lord Lew

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Can you provide more information? What times were you playing, what were you doing during this time, and how long was the delay? Any other relevant information is welcome as well, thanks.
Bleak, i ran a few trace routes tonight, hopefully this will help, as I think I hit it right at a lag spike

Host Name IP Address Hop Ping Time Ping Avg % Loss Pkts r/s Ping best/worst
* Unknown Host * 192.168.1.1 1 1ms
* Unknown Host * 0.0.0.0 2 0ms
ten0-0-0-7.orld25-ser2.bhn.net 72.31.194.180 3 8ms
ten0-0-0-5.orld31-car2.bhn.net 71.44.60.176 4 11ms
ten0-15-0-3.orld71-car2.bhn.net 71.44.61.20 5 28ms
hun0-6-0-o.0rld71-cbr3.bhn.net 72.31.193.22 6 19ms
te9-0-0d0.cir1.miami2-fl.us.xo.net 216.156.104.49 7 62ms
216.156.15.5.ptr.us.xo.net 216.156.15.5 8 62ms
0.xe-10-2-0.BR1.MIA19.ALTER.NET 204.255.168.21 9 58ms
0.xe-2-1-2.XT1.DCA5.ALTER.NET 152.63.6.81 10 37ms
0.so-6-0-0.UR2.MTC4.ALTER.NET 152.63.38.242 11 39ms
* Unknown Host * 206.112.176.42 12 136ms
* Unknown Host * 206.112.184.37 13 69ms
host136.ea.com 63.117.27.136 14 42ms

Host Name IP Address Hop Ping Time Ping Avg % Loss Pkts r/s Ping best/worst
* Unknown Host * 192.168.1.1 1 2ms
* Unknown Host * 0.0.0.0 2 0ms
ten0-0-0-7.orld25-ser2.bhn.net 72.31.194.180 3 11ms
ten0-0-0-5.orld31-car2.bhn.net 71.44.60.176 4 11ms
ten0-15-0-3.orld71-car2.bhn.net 71.44.61.20 5 31ms
hun0-6-0-o.0rld71-cbr3.bhn.net 72.31.193.22 6 22ms
te9-0-0d0.cir1.miami2-fl.us.xo.net 216.156.104.49 7 65ms
216.156.15.5.ptr.us.xo.net 216.156.15.5 8 64ms
0.xe-10-2-0.BR1.MIA19.ALTER.NET 204.255.168.21 9 107ms
0.xe-2-1-2.XT1.DCA5.ALTER.NET 152.63.6.81 10 58ms
0.so-6-0-0.UR2.MTC4.ALTER.NET 152.63.38.242 11 44ms
* Unknown Host * 206.112.176.42 12 329ms
* Unknown Host * 206.112.184.37 13 46ms
host136.ea.com 63.117.27.136 14 47ms


Host Name IP Address Hop Ping Time Ping Avg % Loss Pkts r/s Ping best/worst
* Unknown Host * 192.168.1.1 1 3ms
* Unknown Host * 0.0.0.0 2 0ms
ten0-0-0-7.orld25-ser2.bhn.net 72.31.194.180 3 10ms
ten0-0-0-5.orld31-car2.bhn.net 71.44.60.176 4 11ms
ten0-15-0-3.orld71-car2.bhn.net 71.44.61.20 5 20ms
hun0-6-0-o.0rld71-cbr3.bhn.net 72.31.193.22 6 21ms
te9-0-0d0.cir1.miami2-fl.us.xo.net 216.156.104.49 7 78ms
216.156.15.5.ptr.us.xo.net 216.156.15.5 8 74ms
0.xe-10-2-0.BR1.MIA19.ALTER.NET 204.255.168.21 9 65ms
0.xe-2-1-2.XT1.DCA5.ALTER.NET 152.63.6.81 10 38ms
0.so-6-0-0.UR2.MTC4.ALTER.NET 152.63.38.242 11 44ms
* Unknown Host * 206.112.176.42 12 251ms
* Unknown Host * 206.112.184.37 13 43ms
host136.ea.com 63.117.27.136 14 42ms

Host Name IP Address Hop Ping Time Ping Avg % Loss Pkts r/s Ping best/worst
* Unknown Host * 192.168.1.1 1 1ms
* Unknown Host * 0.0.0.0 2 0ms
ten0-0-0-7.orld25-ser2.bhn.net 72.31.194.180 3 10ms
ten0-0-0-5.orld31-car2.bhn.net 71.44.60.176 4 9ms
ten0-15-0-3.orld71-car2.bhn.net 71.44.61.20 5 24ms
hun0-6-0-o.0rld71-cbr3.bhn.net 72.31.193.22 6 18ms
te9-0-0d0.cir1.miami2-fl.us.xo.net 216.156.104.49 7 64ms
216.156.15.5.ptr.us.xo.net 216.156.15.5 8 61ms
0.xe-10-2-0.BR1.MIA19.ALTER.NET 204.255.168.21 9 113ms
0.xe-2-1-2.XT1.DCA5.ALTER.NET 152.63.6.81 10 40ms
0.so-6-0-0.UR2.MTC4.ALTER.NET 152.63.38.242 11 40ms
* Unknown Host * 206.112.176.42 12 38ms
* Unknown Host * 206.112.184.37 13 48ms
host136.ea.com 63.117.27.136 14 52ms

Host Name IP Address Hop Ping Time Ping Avg % Loss Pkts r/s Ping best/worst
* Unknown Host * 192.168.1.1 1 1ms
* Unknown Host * 0.0.0.0 2 0ms
ten0-0-0-7.orld25-ser2.bhn.net 72.31.194.180 3 10ms
ten0-0-0-5.orld31-car2.bhn.net 71.44.60.176 4 15ms
ten0-15-0-3.orld71-car2.bhn.net 71.44.61.20 5 15ms
hun0-6-0-o.0rld71-cbr3.bhn.net 72.31.193.22 6 18ms
te9-0-0d0.cir1.miami2-fl.us.xo.net 216.156.104.49 7 62ms
216.156.15.5.ptr.us.xo.net 216.156.15.5 8 59ms
0.xe-10-2-0.BR1.MIA19.ALTER.NET 204.255.168.21 9 63ms
0.xe-2-1-2.XT1.DCA5.ALTER.NET 152.63.6.81 10 54ms
0.so-6-0-0.UR2.MTC4.ALTER.NET 152.63.38.242 11 39ms
* Unknown Host * 206.112.176.42 12 39ms

As you can see, it hit a +200 ping time just before the host server then came back down, and the unknown server is gone. this was around 11pm on new years eve..
anyway, hope it helps.. let me know if you need me to run any more..
thanks
Lew
 
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Lord Lew

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206.112.176.42 IP address location & more:
IP address [?]: 206.112.176.42[Copy] [Whois][Reverse IP]
IP country code: US
IP address country:
United States
IP address state: Virginia
IP address city: Ashburn
IP postcode: 20147
IP address latitude: 39.0335
IP address longitude: -77.4838
ISP of this IP [?]: Verizon Business
Organization: MTC4 engineering
Local time in United States: 2012-12-31 23:22

Looked that up just in case you needed it :)
 

Lord Lew

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Host Name IP Address Hop Ping Time Ping Avg % Loss Pkts r/s Ping best/worst
* Unknown Host * 192.168.1.1 1 0ms
* Unknown Host * 0.0.0.0 2 0ms
ten0-0-0-7.orld25-ser2.bhn.net 72.31.194.180 3 9ms
ten0-0-0-5.orld31-car2.bhn.net 71.44.60.176 4 12ms
ten0-15-0-3.orld71-car2.bhn.net 71.44.61.20 5 19ms
hun0-6-0-o.0rld71-cbr3.bhn.net 72.31.193.22 6 18ms
te9-0-0d0.cir1.miami2-fl.us.xo.net 216.156.104.49 7 68ms
216.156.15.5.ptr.us.xo.net 216.156.15.5 8 69ms
0.xe-10-2-0.BR1.MIA19.ALTER.NET 204.255.168.21 9 74ms
0.xe-2-1-2.XT1.DCA5.ALTER.NET 152.63.6.81 10 64ms
0.so-6-0-0.UR2.MTC4.ALTER.NET 152.63.38.242 11 42ms
* Unknown Host * 206.112.176.42 12 729ms
* Unknown Host * 206.112.184.37 13 46ms
host136.ea.com 63.117.27.136 14 103ms


oh yeah, that spike hurt that one dumped me off of the shard, and i instantly ran the trace route at 12:44AM january 1st

so i backed my way down the list, and it seems i go from east central Florida, to Tampa, up to Kansas City, THEN over to VA.. love how the internet works :)
 
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Bleak

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Thanks for the information we are working to resolve these issues.
 
T

Tazar

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Thanks for the information we are working to resolve these issues.
If you need any more trace-routes, research, speculation, or plain old conspiracy theories - just ask! :p

Thanks for following up on this for us. :)
 

Lord Lew

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I love me some conspiracy theories, I heard that it was Mesanna causing the lag spikes!!!
 

Bleak

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Anyone still seeing severe spikes on Atlantic?
 

weins201

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Yes i, i have seen them on and off over the last week, no regularity just here and there.
 

Zane_Xander

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I use Clasic mostly and I get it too. Feels just like the old lag spikes we use to get where it only effected us and not the spawn. o0o0oooo
feels like packet losss
 

weins201

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seems better i ran around exodus, lost lands, ilsh and some fell champ with only one hicup when i went thru lich dungeon to primevil lich area where i froze up. Other than that all was well
 
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Tazar

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Is there anyway to look into and fix the random client crashes as well? Seems to also be Fel side only.
CC or EC? Specific Locations? Actions? Anything that seems to trigger it or that may help the Dev's reproduce it?
 

Lythos-

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CC or EC? Specific Locations? Actions? Anything that seems to trigger it or that may help the Dev's reproduce it?
Classic. I've cliented anywhere in fel doing any random act in pvp. Last night i cliented 2x once mounting up and another just hitting someone with my wep. Seems to be triggered by people doing multiple things on screen.

It's almost like the cnt/shift crashes of old (which still crash too even though they were supposed to be fixed years ago)
 

Lord Lew

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Just ran to my usual haunts of late and did not notice the same lag as I have been getting. Just the normal client side I usually deal with in certain high population areas. I will pay longer tonight with a group hopefully and report back.

Can't say for 100%, tho it seemed a lot better, thanks Bleak!!!
 

Lythos-

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Had another 10-20sec freeze and afterwards a client crash (due to recalling where several mobs were moving at the same time)...all in fel.
 

Lord Lew

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Can you provide more information? What times were you playing, what were you doing during this time, and how long was the delay? Any other relevant information is welcome as well, thanks.
Bleak, I had another lag crash today 5:45PM 1/4, I was jumping from Ilsh to Makoto and froze. Jumped over to do a
trace route and found this..

Host Name IP Address Hop Ping Time Ping Avg % Loss Pkts r/s Ping best/worst
* Unknown Host * 192.168.1.1 1 0ms
* Unknown Host * 0.0.0.0 2 0ms
ten0-0-0-7.orld25-ser2.bhn.net 72.31.194.180 3 9ms
ten0-0-0-5.orld31-car2.bhn.net 71.44.60.176 4 8ms
ten0-15-0-3.orld71-car2.bhn.net 71.44.61.20 5 21ms
hun0-6-0-o.0rld71-cbr3.bhn.net 72.31.193.22 6 12ms
te9-0-0d0.cir1.miami2-fl.us.xo.net 216.156.104.49 7 59ms
216.156.15.5.ptr.us.xo.net 216.156.15.5 8 65ms
0.xe-10-2-0.BR1.MIA19.ALTER.NET 204.255.168.21 9 139ms
0.xe-2-1-2.XT1.DCA5.ALTER.NET 152.63.6.81 10 59ms
0.so-6-0-0.UR2.MTC4.ALTER.NET 152.63.38.242 11 61ms
* Unknown Host * 206.112.176.42 12 514ms
* Unknown Host * 206.112.184.37 13 64ms
host136.ea.com 63.117.27.136 14 74ms
caused me to have to shut program down and re-load
 

NuSair

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Still getting lag spikes, multiple times tonight, in Bedlam and Medusa's chamber.
 

Bleak

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Thank you again for your feedback, we have identified the issues causing the lag and are very close to getting them resolved.
 

Buddy Lee

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Last night was pretty laggy over all for me along with the occational 5-10 second freeze. Not sure if this was the same cause as before.
 
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Tazar

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We were all over Trammel last night doing treasure-maps and having lag-spikes regularly... I could even run my character in a small circle over and over again and once each circle he'd freeze up for a couple of seconds.
 
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