I was not able to make it the previous events, where Fynn's behaviour has caused much gossip. However Koba was apparently speaking today, and there had been much speculation about his private motives in turn too. So I wanted to learn for myself what he had to say regarding the conflagration he has so closely been involved in.
And it wasn't reassuring. But decide for yourself with this accurate as can be report on what was said, after Koba appeared from a secret passage besides the main gates of Britain.
As well as possibly my conversation contribution being a little too heavy and driving people away. So I wanted to apologise to all of those there today if I seemed like I was dominating the event; I type quickly, and think even quicker, but not quick enough to step outside myself and see how it might appear to others. I'm sorry if I drowned out your voices today.
And the next bit I want to put in spoilers because I don't want to spoil the event for anyone else... read only if you want the more intense commentary on this arc.
And it wasn't reassuring. But decide for yourself with this accurate as can be report on what was said, after Koba appeared from a secret passage besides the main gates of Britain.
At this Koba disappeared, and we began to talk briefly amongst ourselves. But not for long as...[Koba's supporter]: Shame! Shame! Fynn Is to blame!
[Koba's supporter]: Shame! Shame! Fynn Is to blame!
[ARAGORN]: fynn
[Koba's supporter]: Shame! Shame! Fynn Is to blame!
[Koba's supporter]: Shame! Shame! Fynn Is to blame!
[12/04/03][20:00:28] [ARAGORN]: ??
[Koba]: *appears out of an entrance concealed by the poppy bushes*
[Discrd nd Destry]: eek
[Koba]: *looks around at the unfamiliar faces*
[Koba]: Welcome!
[hells juggalo]: booo
[Discrd nd Destry]: *wave*
[Aron Swordmaster]: Do not think attendance is the same as acceptance Koba. But we come to hear thy words and judge them according to their character
[Koba's supporter]: .IV
[Mash Debater]: -_-
[Koba]: *nods*
[Hex]: evening
[Koba]: Welcome, all of you who have came to hear my words
[hells juggalo]: dwhat do u have for us today?
[Mash Debater]: I can be bought by free wares
[Koba]: I only ask that you hear me out and consider what I have to say
[Nessai]: okay
[Nessai]: fair enough
[ARAGORN]: fine
[Koba]: for I do not seek blind faith from anyone
[Vanlanthiriel]: greetings hex
[Hex]: evening =)
[Koba]: *takes a deep breath*
[ARAGORN]: *puts rope away*
[Vanlanthiriel]: hehe
[Vanlanthiriel]: incognito
[Hex]: Moira?
[Criss Angel]: *watchs*
[Koba]: As we stand here, at this very moment, our cities are burning
[Vanlanthiriel]: wait and see
[Hex]: =)
[Aron Swordmaster]: *places fruit down ready to throw at the slightest sign of anti-virtue*
(As will be seen later, there was indeed much anti-virtuous support for Koba, it will not surprise to hear it comes from those who sought only material rewards... and also I suspect from someone who, within a few seconds, STOLE THE FRUIT I PLACED ON THE FLOOR)
[Koba]: Citizens have been driven out of the safety of their homes
[hells juggalo]: yap
[Koba]: Britannia, once a united and proud kingdom, is no longer so
[Arton Semeron]: He's still not arested?
[Koba]: As we speak
[Koba]: *looks with anger in his eyes*
[Koba]: Two of our cities are fighting against each other
[Kou]: *Scratches the back of her head*
[Koba]: Everywhere I look, I see suffering
[Koba]: suffering inflicted upon us not from an orc raiding party
[Koba]: or a demon from another realm
[hells juggalo]: yap they r in love with the same chick so they fight
[Koba]: but, the greed and corruption of those who would rule us!
[your Granny]: Are you pointing to someone special?
[Koba]: Many of you have defended the actions of Fynn Barrett
[Koba's supporter]: Shame! Shame! Fynn Is to blame!
[Koba's supporter]: Shame! Shame! Fynn Is to blame!
[Arton Semeron]: Meh..
[Koba]: Perhaps, he used to be a different man
[Nimuaq]: not many
[Koba]: *shrugs*
[Koba]: Perhaps, he has lost his marbles
[Koba]: *shrugs*
[Koba]: Perhaps, he has lost his soul
[Aron Swordmaster]: I have heard Fynn has been eratic; but people are only the vessels through which good or evil may be done. We support the good... what hath ye done that is good?
[Koba's supporter]: Shame! Shame! Fynn Is to blame!
[Koba's supporter]: Shame! Shame! Fynn Is to blame!
[ARAGORN]: fair question
[Koba]: Some of you have defended him
[Koba]: saying that it is only his recent actions
[Koba]: that have been erratic
[Aron Swordmaster]: As we would defend ye if ye were falsely accused. And hath thou been?
[Nimuaq]: that is true
[Koba]: However, the kingdom has been burning for quite some time
[Criss Angel]: cause civilizations cant get along
[hells juggalo]: so stop it
[Thiefy]: i will get a guard rope... if we dont like what you say.. we rope you soon!
[Aron Swordmaster]: I hath my own thoughts on Fynn, which I shall say honestly unto his face, as he deserves. But we come today to learn of thee not Fynn
[Koba's supporter]: Shame! Shame! Fynn Is to blame!
[Koba's supporter]: Shame! Shame! Fynn Is to blame!
[your Granny]: have you got some proofs, that Fynn got corrupted?
[Koba's supporter]: Shame! Shame! Fynn Is to blame!
[Koba]: But, I doubt any of you could
[Koba]: be sure how long this erratic behavior has been going on
[Yip Man]: ..
[hells juggalo]:
[Koba]: So, this is what I propose
[Thiefy]: *got the rope ready*
[Criss Angel]: *readys up*
[Koba]: In fact...
[Koba]: I am sure that some amongst you are spies
[Nimuaq]: ?
[Koba]: sure to report to your master
[ARAGORN]: naw
[Nimuaq]: master?
[Koba]: once I am done
[Discrd nd Destry]: <<
[Koba]: So, tell them this for me
[Koba]: They have two days
[Koba]: *raises his hand with two fingers pointed upwards*
[Aron Swordmaster]: Master? My master is our kingdom. Where were ye when the opportunity to lead it by fair election was held?
[Nimuaq]: two days for what?
[your Granny]: Are you leading this revolution? - As last time you said you are just listen to your pa`
[Koba]: They have two days to step down
[Nimuaq]: else?
[Koba]: and allow a new system
[Aron Swordmaster]: Ye demand this whilst skulking in the shrubbery?
[Koba]: a system in which we rule by consensus and will of the people
[Thiefy]: *make the rope ready*
[Koba]: and not whims of an individual
[Koba]: Else?
[Aron Swordmaster]: Would we follow a mouse of a man who's bravery is hidden in bushes?
[Koba]: If they do not heed my warning...
[your Granny]: then?
[Koba]: then I cannot promise their safety
[ARAGORN]: we listen to more of ur speech?
[Koba]: because there is a revolution coming
[Koba]: and it is upto them to decide
[Criss Angel]: i wanna watch
[hells juggalo]: yay
[Koba]: if it will be bloody or not
[Aron Swordmaster]: As I feared; ye think not of people, ye just want to lead them
[Bill Brakespeare]: Phaw - enough of this rabble rousing!
[Sparrow]: and if they all step down who leads?
[Kou]: How is revolution going to cause less suffering than we have already?
[12/04/03][20:10:52] [Koba]: The poeple!
(Yes folks, he cannot even spell "people", yet he presumes to speak for them!)
[your Granny]: can´t we have an argueing between Fynn and you, before we start a fight?
[Criss Angel]: i like kous idea
[Koba's supporter]: Shame! Shame! Fynn Is to blame!
[Koba]: The age of Kings and Lords is gone!
[Nessai]: Koba what prof do you have of your accusations?
[Koba's supporter]: .IV
[Sparrow]: an impossible solution
[Aron Swordmaster]: The blood ye speak of will be the blood of your fellow man, deluded or not. If ye cannot lead through personal example ye are no better than the inbred monarchs ye condemn
[Koba]: The time for wider society to decide how it wiould govern itself has come
[Thiefy]: ha ha... you want a kind of "directed" democracy!
[Koba]: *looks angered*
[Thiefy]: dictatorship... on top... you... yeah yeah yeah...
[Koba]: Sometimes a little blood has to be spilled
[Leodegan]: Govern itself? that seems mighty close to Blackthorn rule
[Kou]: That is hardly your decision to make
[Koba]: to gain peace and tranquility
[Criss Angel]: then thats what they call WAR!
[Nessai]: for the greater good?
[hells juggalo]: blood yay
[Aron Swordmaster]: That is a decision for a doctor not a dictator
[Koba]: I am giving them fair warning
[Leodegan]: And what do you back your warning / threat with?
[Kou]: You are giving an ultimatum
[Koba]: I am willing to negotiate a transition government
[hells juggalo]: ur right
[Thiefy]: Shame! Shame! Koba Is to blame!
[Koba]: However, this...
[Koba]: *waves around*
[Koba]: cannot continue!
[Koba]: It mustn't!
[Koba]: Yesterday, it was Moonglow versus Jhelom
[Criss Angel]: war is everywhere wether its between humans elfs gargs and monsters alike
[Koba]: Tomorrow, it will be all of Britain
[Aron Swordmaster]: Ye had that opportunity; ye could have run for Lord Protector. If your case was so strong, ye would have put it to the people then
[Koba]: if we do not throw the entire lot out
[ARAGORN]: so u are looking to hold Britannia hostage and in fear for your own personal gains Koba?
[Koba]: I have nothing to gain
[ARAGORN]: really?
[Sparrow]: A so you say
[Aron Swordmaster]: Instead, they have chosen the stealing of pants over your political piffle
[Koba]: I will not run for a seat for power
[Leodegan]: you are demanding power how is that nothing to gain
[Thiefy]: its strange that YOU knowed it before we all other knew that the 2 cities started a war....
[Iljian]: Then thign a paper in front of all of uth thtating that you won't!
[your Granny]: Who is then going to "lead" the revolution?
[Koba]: Strange, indeed!
[Aron Swordmaster]: You mean ye will not seek restrictions upon the power you intend to climb over the bodies of others to take
[Koba]: It just shows how inefficient our leaders are
[hells juggalo]: screen shot
[Thiefy]: or how effective you prepared this combat....
[Koba]: If only some of you would have shown
[Koba]: this level of paranoia
[Criss Angel]: what paranoia
[Koba]: before rushing into help Jhelom at the words of your Lord Fynn
[Koba's supporter]: Shame! Shame! Fynn Is to blame!
[Koba's supporter]: Shame! Shame! Fynn Is to blame!
[12/04/03][20:15:06] [Aron Swordmaster]: Inefficient good over efficient evil? That is not the bargain ye seem to think
[Iljian]: He ain't a lord
[Sparrow]: not all went
[Koba]: Some of you are equally to blame
[Koba]: for allowing this to continue
[Thiefy]: as we appeared there we becane attacked by them...
[Koba]: Where is your sense of responsibility?
[Criss Angel]: i missed it =[
[Kou]: Where is yours?
[your Granny]: we are defending towns... not attacking towns
[Koba]: Where is mine??
[ARAGORN]: aye!
[Koba]: I am up here doing something about it, ain't I?
[ARAGORN]: making threats
[Iljian]: Rioting and warmongering?
[Criss Angel]: real big guy
[Kou]: Planning to bath the streets in blood, with your revolution
[Wolfram]: Fomenting revolt
[Koba]: I do not believe that
[Koba]: those who have the power
[Thiefy]: yes you support it.. the revolution.. which you migth started
[Koba]: will give it up
[Koba]: if I say "Pretty please"
[Thiefy]: only for your advantage!
[Koba]: If it was only that easy!
[Kou]: Because who are you to demand it?
[ARAGORN]: works here ;p
[Nimuaq]: you want us to give up our power and wealth but for what?
[Kou]: What are your qualifications to know better?
[Koba]: Who am I?
[Aron Swordmaster]: My responsibility is justified in every life I have saved, every beggar I have helped, every one of the virtues I follow irrespective of lords or lackadasical lickers of the sceptre of power such as thee
[Koba]: I AM A CITIZEN OF BRITANNIA
[Koba]: I have as much right
[Koba]: as any noble
[Thiefy]: who will be the "new" leader.. of your new system?
[Iljian]: Tho are we and our opinion nay theemth to count.
[Thiefy]: you?
[Koba]: WE ARE ALL BORN EQUAL
[your Granny]: i have to agree Koba
[Iljian]: And yet WE are not equal cauthe you nay mind our opinion.
[your Granny]: but we shall not go in fight Koba
[Harley Quinn]: wow what's going on:?
[Aron Swordmaster]: Indeed. But some of us ye would see die much sooner for thy own purpose. They apparently are not equal to thee
[Criss Angel]: i agree but some take charge as others sit back and watch
[your Granny]: we shall in discussion
[Nessai]: what will you have us to Koba?
[Koba]: Wars are never good!
[Koba]: They are never glorious!
[your Granny]: aye
[Criss Angel]: yes they are and bloody XD
[Koba]: But, sometimes someone has to take a stand
[Koba]: even if it means war
[Kou]: Neither are revolutions, you idiot!
[your Granny]: Koba, i believe this people want to follow you
[your Granny]: but they need to see the proof
[Koba]: I have already sent a message to Fynn
[Koba's supporter]: Shame! Shame! Fynn Is to blame!
[Koba's supporter]: Shame! Shame! Fynn Is to blame!
[Koba]: The ball is in his court now
[Criss Angel]: then y r u even here
[Koba]: If he is not willing to take things seriously
[Koba]: then he will be forcefully removed
[your Granny]: so you and he will have a discussion?
[Aron Swordmaster]: Balls ... ye talk of them so much. But where is the food in the mouths of the hungry which is really what they desire
[hells juggalo]: where i dont see a ball
[Criss Angel]: ive got food
[Aron Swordmaster]: Let us see YOUR banner of Britain, or hath ye not fed even ONE city?
[Criss Angel]: !
[Wolfram]: Who are you to dictate to an elected officer of Britain?
[Koba]: I am willing to negotiate a safe passage for him
[Leodegan]: I still want to know how you intend on ousting Fynn, have you risen an army?
[Koba]: However, there is no way he will be allowed to continue
[Leodegan]: If so that makes you an invader
[Sparrow]: Disputes should be settled by debate not war or revolution
[Koba]: That is unacceptable
[Nimuaq]: you want power for the peasants, how do you think they will guard these lands?
[Criss Angel]: the weak need protection without it more riots more blood
[Kou]: Your plans are unacceptable
[Koba]: A peaseant with a pitchfork is not to be underestimated
[Criss Angel]: till they get rushed by an ogre
[ARAGORN]: *smiles*
[Criss Angel]: or worse a pk
[Wolfram]: He wants power full stop never mind the peasants
[Nimuaq]: fair enough
[Leodegan]: against a trained soldier your peasant is a martyr for a lost cause
[Koba]: I am sure that many of you
[Koba]: agree that Fynn can no longer be trusted
[Koba's supporter]: Shame! Shame! Fynn Is to blame!
[Koba's supporter]: Shame! Shame! Fynn Is to blame!
[Sparrow]: the Brittanian Royal Guard is the power in these lands
[Kou]: I think we kind of agree that you can't, either
[Nimuaq]: more trustworthy than yourself
[Koba]: I am willing to disappear for good
[hells juggalo]: nooooooooooooooo
[Iljian]: To the bottom of a pond, hopefully
[Koba]: if Fynn will agree to stand down and appoint a people's council to act as a transition government
[Kou]: Then, you should do so, before you drag the kingdom down with you
[Koba's supporter]: Shame! Shame! Fynn Is to blame!
[Koba's supporter]: Shame! Shame! Fynn Is to blame!
[Leodegan]: or a tar pit
[Aron Swordmaster]: Dost thou have anything to say which isn't pettifogging jealousy of Fynn? Where is thy actual plan to return hope to our benighted land? Dost thou claim to rule only because thou thinks thy hath the biggest stick?
[Koba's supporter]: Shame! Shame! Fynn Is to blame!
[Koba's supporter]: Shame! Shame! Fynn Is to blame!
[Aron Swordmaster]: Fynn in this very city laid out food for the poor. For that, who cares where the hands that feed are later in the day?
[Koba's supporter]: Shame! Shame! Fynn Is to blame!
[Koba's supporter]: Shame! Shame! Fynn Is to blame!
[hells juggalo]: *noo stay*
[hells juggalo]: *huges*
[your Granny]: Whom of the current council you would trust?
[Koba]: *jumps up the ledge*
[Koba]: Fynn is responsible
[Koba]: for the mess we are in
[Criss Angel]: u r
[Koba]: Fynn and his coterie of Lords and Ladies
[Sparrow]: cproof?
[your Granny]: you make it to a point
[Aron Swordmaster]: Thou cannot even take responsibility for thy own cause?
[your Granny]: just you or he
[Sparrow]: give me some proof
[Nimuaq]: so we too are responsible?
[Koba]: His actions are proof enough
[Criss Angel]: SHOW ME THE WAY KOBA!
[Wolfram]: Noting to do with the guy who instigated the riots then...
[Thiefy]: *try to ropes Koba*
[Koba]: Two days from now
[hells juggalo]: SHOW US THE WAY GREATKOBA
[Koba]: I will have a meeting with those who would follow me
[Aron Swordmaster]: As will thine be when the blood starts to flow; art thou so ill educated even in thine own proffession of revolution to not know it never succeeds when forced from without?
[Koba]: We will then approach Fynn
[Koba]: and demand his resignation
[hells juggalo]: SHOW US THEY WAY MASTER
[Koba]: if he does not agree, then...
[Sparrow]: i cant stand next to this lunatic
[Criss Angel]: WE TAKE HIS HEAD!
[Kou]: Like Fynn, you fall back on the same weak justifications when challenged
[hells juggalo]: WE SHELL KILL THEE
[Iljian]: We demand your rethignation now. Why do you not follow our demand?
[Koba]: My resignation
[Koba]: will not stop the riots
[Aron Swordmaster]: Indeed, ye hath TWO supporters, maybe one more... against the crowd here?
[Koba]: Nothing will stop the riots till we have a real change
[Criss Angel]: lol
[Iljian]: It might not make them worthe though, like you will.
[hells juggalo]: BRING HIM TO US WE SHELL KILL HIM
[Mash Debater]: brainwashed supporters who chant the same thing on command
[Koba]: *looks around*
[Criss Angel]: i just want bribed
[Aron Swordmaster]: Ye sully the name of riots, let alone republicanism, ye should be ashamed
[Koba]: I have said my piece
[Criss Angel]: i must be bribed
[Criss Angel]: with blood
[Koba]: Join me to reclaim Britannia
[hells juggalo]: WE SHELL TAKE HIS HEAD AND HANG IT IN A PICTURE
[Koba]: or watch by as it falls into a civil war!
[Aron Swordmaster]: Let me tell ye the true future Koba
[Koba]: Those who might wish to join me
[Criss Angel]: we just want to lead ourselves muahahahahaha
[Alusair]: so getting rid of the leaders will lead to peace... why do i have doubts...
[Aron Swordmaster]: If Fynn remains a competent military leader, he shall prevail over you with our support. But if he does not... we shall still prevail over you. Behind which banner or king it matters not
[Koba]: Contact me by other means
[Koba]: It matters not to me as long as there is no more king
[Criss Angel]: i will defened brittania!!!!
[Koba]: or queen...
[Aron Swordmaster]: We seek not to replace a good King or Queen with a lunatic elected by popular support or otherwise
[Alusair]: there isn't one at the moment
[Alusair]: job done
[Koba]: I have no need for Royalists
[Sparrow]: I will follow no one blindly - You or Fynn
[Koba]: If you believe someone has the divine right to rule over you
[Koba]: then go ahead and bury your head in the sand
[Criss Angel]: i do my own bidding tis a free country XD
[Koba]: As I said, Fynn Barrett has two days to
[Koba]: react to my ultimatum
[Aron Swordmaster]: I believe in no right. I believe in Right or Wrong. I follow those who truly help the people. Ye hath offered nothing to suggest you desire anything more than their deaths
[Aron Swordmaster]: If you cannot bring them more than civil war then ye are hath no right to rule at all
[Koba]: It is not upto me to decide
[Criss Angel]: Brittania Will Be Protected
[Koba]: it is upto Fynn
[Criss Angel]: it is up to anyone with a brain
[Criss Angel]: everyone decides their own fate
[Koba]: which Fynn clearly lacks in
[Criss Angel]: u chose who u follow
[Aron Swordmaster]: I look forward to your making that argument in court for inciting violence. "It wasn't me, Fynn did it y'honor, and ran away"
[Criss Angel]: u lack in common sense
[Koba]: *looks blind with his obsession against Fynn*
[Nimuaq]: we might decide in two days, but unless the situation worsen, I don't think we will have an agreement
[Wolfram]: Fynn has fed and clothed the poor, and you have...? Rioted!
[Koba]: That much I can promise...
[Koba]: the "situation" will become very worse
[Sparrow]: looks more like a personal vendetta to me rather than concern
[Aron Swordmaster]: *listens* Hear that Koba? tis the voice of the people. I do not need to speak for them. But ye should learn to listen...
[Koba]: if Fynn does not step down
[Criss Angel]: if u wernt rioting in the first place wed a ll be fine
[Koba]: *bows*
[Nimuaq]: I don't think the riots are serious enough to give up my wealth or my powers, and I think most of us feel the same way
[Koba]: *steps back and disappears through the secret entrance*
And at that Fynn left. We sat and talked a little, but we were interrupted by raiders spawning and attacking Britain again.[Thiefy]: pffff
[Sparrow]: hmmm no wiser now
[Thiefy]: next time we see him.. we arrest him!
[Traveler]: lol he gone to sewers?
[Aron Swordmaster]: a word of advice fellows
[Criss Angel]: kick his tush!
[Aron Swordmaster]: Even those who supported him today did nothing more than speak their mind
[Criss Angel]: i support the protection of my land thats it idc who dies in the process =/
[Aron Swordmaster]: I suggest none of us allow attendence today to be turned against any person here
[hells juggalo]: same
[Nimuaq]: he will be supported though
[Aron Swordmaster]: I see no rioting or disrespect. Let us stay united as a community no matter what may be said about Fynn
[ARAGORN]: here here
[Criss Angel]: we will control this problem with our bare hands XD
[Kou]: Can't we get a third option?
[Kou]: someone to support who isn't Fynn or Koba?
[Aron Swordmaster]: Yes, but you ate them all so I hath none left for anyone else
(Kou style third options that is! They were obviously edible options)
[hells juggalo]: ITS WAR!
[ARAGORN]: well said aron..i say let koba bring his minions we will defend Britannia as one
[Traveler]: look Fynn
(Fynn himself has appeared at this point, patrolling Britain once more. This fact is not long lost on people...)
[Sparrow]: I'm worried about Fynns re3cent actions but he has been reliable in the past
[Aron Swordmaster]: I thought about that... I wish to speak to Fynn myself
[Criss Angel]: i will not let our land be pillaged
[Aron Swordmaster]: But we must not let a single voice dictate who leads us
[Aron Swordmaster]: If he must step aside, let it be for incompetence, proven and obvious
[hells juggalo]: KILL HIM
[ARAGORN]: aye
[Fynn Barrett]: Oi!
[Aron Swordmaster]: Ahah. He arrives himself
[Kou]: Oi! Yourself!
[Fynn Barrett]: No gatherings here!
[Sparrow]: im with you on that
[Hex]: free country
[Aron Swordmaster]: Fynn, ye are just in time. Please come join us
[Fynn Barrett]: Oh it's you!
[Kou]: Don't you have an island city to fawn over?
[Marcus]: You there! Care to hear how to earn some easy gold?
(Even the escorts around the cities seem to be overcome with greed! Or perhaps they know something about Fynn that we as yet merely suspect?)
[Fynn Barrett]: I thought you were a group of protesters for a moment
[Criss Angel]: not by a long shot m8 =]
[Fynn Barrett]: There have been so many....
[Aron Swordmaster]: Fynn, ye need to know what has transpired here
[Alusair]: cause protestors ride polar bears and cu-sidhes...
[Fynn Barrett]: Tell me Aron?
[Kou]: Some might
[Aron Swordmaster]: Koba has returned, from a secret passage in these bushes. He has given an ultimatum that ye must resign or civil war will begin in 2 days
[Koba's supporter]: Thou dost not belong to my guild!
[Koba's supporter]: Thou dost not belong to my guild!
(what nefarious actions were Koba's supporters trying to perfom at this point? Directed at Fynn perhaps?!)
[Fynn Barrett]: Koba was here?
[hells juggalo]: YES
[Fynn Barrett]: Why didn't you arrest him!?
[Criss Angel]: yea then he ran like a !&$$#
[ARAGORN]: we tried
[Aron Swordmaster]: He seemed to have magical protection
[Criss Angel]: my rope couldnt reach
[Thiefy]: i tried,... but he winded out of the rope!
[Kou]: Because we're unconvinced he's a worse leader than you
[hells juggalo]: MY ROPE WONT WORK
[Fynn Barrett]: Winded out of the rope eh? Crafty *******!
[Kou]: *Gives a little "everyone was thinking it" grin*
[Criss Angel]: sounds personal juggalo
[Harley Quinn]: there's his supporters
[Aron Swordmaster]: Let us be frank; he attempted to play upon people's doubts about your recent involvement in the Jhelom and Moonglow conflict
[Thiefy]: and he flees through a secret clap here in the square
[Thiefy]: *points*
[Aron Swordmaster]: I could not attend, but I must admit I have not heard positive reports.
[Sparrow]: your actions over Jhelom and Moonglow have worried your supporters
[Fynn Barrett]: *Nods* Yes ARon, we are all familair with his retoric by now
[Fynn Barrett]: Always the same lies
[Kou]: *Scratches the back of her head*
[Criss Angel]: so what partt did u play in jehlom and glows
[ARAGORN]: he wishes to ascend to leadership through blood and terror fynn
[Thiefy]: and he said you have a 2 day ultimatum
[Thiefy]: to invoce changes
[Criss Angel]: hes a scardy cat
[Fynn Barrett]: An ultimatum? What did he want?
[Thiefy]: invoke..#
[Nimuaq]: a council or our heads
[Aron Swordmaster]: Your resignation for starters. He seemed obsessed by it, to the point he no longer realises we don't even have the Monarch that enrages him
[Nessai]: he wantet you to step down flynn
[Fynn Barrett]: Ha! So he can take control of the city himself of course
[ARAGORN]: i say let him try!
[Sparrow]: thats an assumption
[Criss Angel]: bring it on!!!
[Thiefy]: that was i told him.. "directed" democracy he wants...
[Aron Swordmaster]: Maybe so; but Fynn, we hath fought together as a community many times, but I feel I must say this...
[Fynn Barrett]: We sure won't let him get away with that!
[Thiefy]: dictatory i believe!
[Nessai]: he said that he wouldnt set himself in a seed of power
[Aron Swordmaster]: Ye want to save Britain; but what of Jhelom and Moonglow? It is not enough to prevent him winning here. He can still win elsewhere
[Nessai]: but who belives that...?
[Aron Swordmaster]: If ye can't protect the realm, he may be right; and ye may ultimately be doomeed
[Criss Angel]: he can try i will take his head myself
[Fynn Barrett]: Aron, the guard of Britain has it hands more than full keeping peace in the city
[Sparrow]: He made a point for himself by aiding Moonglow
[ARAGORN]: then get more guards
[Fynn Barrett]: There are protest and riots almost daily
[Aron Swordmaster]: He ignores even our democratically elected Lord Protector, what we face cannot be reasoned with or satisfied
[Criss Angel]: knight me ill handel it
[Fynn Barrett]: We can barely keep them under control
[Sparrow]: yet we could aid Jhelom?
[Kou]: What of running off to help Jhelom?
[Criss Angel]: knight me ill handel it
[Aron Swordmaster]: *nods* I understand, and hath some sympathy. But we need someone... or something that can care for all
[Nimuaq]: I agree with Aron, if you still think Moonglow is not worthy to defend, we might think differently
[Fynn Barrett]: Sparrow, that was a tactical descision.
[Fynn Barrett]: Britain desperatly needs more guards
[Sparrow]: to defend the aggressor?
[Fynn Barrett]: And we all know where the best warriors come from
[Nimuaq]: Jhelom
[Aron Swordmaster]: Then we disagree on the tactics. Ye face an ideology that will thrive where ever injustice lies. And he will forment injustice and hide behind it.
[ARAGORN]: unemployment is up and noone can feed their families? hire them as guards fynn
[Hex]: what about when u want mages?
[Fynn Barrett]: Indeed, from Jhelom
[Fynn Barrett]: It is in our interest to stay on good therms with Jhelom
[Hex]: warriors are not the only fighters
[Sparrow]: and when we need the best mages?
[Aron Swordmaster]: It is in thy interest to be seen to abandon none. Ye work for the realm, and the higher good.
[Leodegan]: Did anyone else notice that the jhelom attackers did not look like dressed warriors of jhelom
[ARAGORN]: aye
[Aron Swordmaster]: No one with good conscience can stand by and let the innocent starve and suffer.
[Leodegan]: is it not possible they could have been Koba's rabble
[ARAGORN]: much more powerful than jheloms warriors
[Sparrow]: we let moonglow go almost undefended
[Sparrow]: just a few of us tried
[Leodegan]: Sparking a war between towns would cerainly help his argument
[ARAGORN]: *nods*
[Fynn Barrett]: Like I said, it was a tactical descision. And not one I take lightly
[Fynn Barrett]: We have only so many resources, and I have to choose how to allocate them
[Sparrow]: I cannot support it then
[Fynn Barrett]: And each night I pray I made the right descisions
[Aron Swordmaster]: Then will ye look the other way if others act?
[Aron Swordmaster]: Or better yet... will ye bless the actions of those who seek peace?
[Hex]: your resources would be better used in finding who caused the explosion at Minoc
[ARAGORN]: *glares at fynn* as i recall that day you stormed out u did not want moonglow defended
[Nimuaq]: what if the situation worsen, we might have to come into terms with Koba
[Fynn Barrett]: Of course, I would support an effort to find a diplomatic solution
[Aron Swordmaster]: *looks around*
[Nimuaq]: let us send someone to Koba, to retreat his weird ultimatum and discuss the solutions
[Aron Swordmaster]: This is not my first world... I suspect it is not for many, many of us followed the Avatar here
[Sparrow]: you were provided with proff the Jheloms Mayor ordered the attack but did nothing
[Aron Swordmaster]: Dost ye know of Truth and Reconciliation in the world of our friends?
[Fynn Barrett]: I'm not sure I follow you there Aron?
[Aron Swordmaster]: The strongest weapon ye hath now Fynn is the Truth. Ye are human. We know this
[Fynn Barrett]: Sparrow, I was in a rush the other day. Please bring the evidence you are speaking of
[Sparrow]: what of Balede?
[Fynn Barrett]: to our meeting, next Thursday
[Aron Swordmaster]: So I ask you... please if there is to be diplomatic talks, go there too. Explain why ye decided as ye did. But don't insist ye are right. Just speaking for yourself
[Sparrow]: i did not obtain it
[Ailea]: *smiles*
[Dorsidhion]: *smiles*
[Aron Swordmaster]: Korba wants ye to leave. We want ye to make the right choice for all. The two are not exclusive. But it will involve a little humility on all to achieve
[Aron Swordmaster]: Koba has no humility at all. I suggest you learn it to outflank him
[Fynn Barrett]: *Nods at Aron*
[Fynn Barrett]: I will consider your words
[Aron Swordmaster]: You realise it will involve learning not to slam doors however?
[ARAGORN]: hehe
[Fynn Barrett]: Erm... yes...
[Fynn Barrett]: I know.... I lost my temper there
[Hex]: u think?
[ARAGORN]: fynn this time requires strong leadership and u will be sorely tested in days to come
[Fynn Barrett]: I am under a lot of stress right now, with the state the city is in
[ARAGORN]: storming out will just not cut it
[Aron Swordmaster]: Koba wishes you to lose that... and more, including your head I suspect.
[Fynn Barrett]: On that note.
[Fynn Barrett]: I most finish my patrol!
[Fynn Barrett]: We will meet again next THursday
[Fynn Barrett]: 8pm at the Counselors' Hall
[ARAGORN]: u mean this thursday do u not?
[ARAGORN]: the 5th?
[Aron Swordmaster]: (two days from now)
[Fynn Barrett]: I mean this THursday, which is the 5h
[Dorsidhion]: coming Thursday
[Nimuaq]: ok
[Fynn Barrett]: Until then, keep an eye out for Koba
[Fynn Barrett]: And try to keep a hold of him!
[Thiefy]: next time i have more ropes on me
[Fynn Barrett]: *Salutes*
As well as possibly my conversation contribution being a little too heavy and driving people away. So I wanted to apologise to all of those there today if I seemed like I was dominating the event; I type quickly, and think even quicker, but not quick enough to step outside myself and see how it might appear to others. I'm sorry if I drowned out your voices today.
And the next bit I want to put in spoilers because I don't want to spoil the event for anyone else... read only if you want the more intense commentary on this arc.
I have to admit to really struggling to keep the event on a level for myself where it's anything other than emotionally draining. In real life I'm a Russian Studies/Politics graduate, and have just come out of a campaign to try and stop the current Austerity measures from being used to shut down a social club for the elderly I was volunteering at; spoke to the council in session, interviewed on radio, liaised with reporters for the local press... To then find a game I love and play in my "me" time being dragged into the same waters of political debate is deeply exhausting. Yes, I know, I could just shut up and say nothing...
But that's not the hardest issue. It's almost impossible to have meaningful debate online often, much less in a computer game, and as soon as it the contents of the Arc were announced you had people on Stratics looking forward to "beating hippies" and getting revenge on the "Occupy" movement by proxy... How edifying. Others have already expressed their disgust on Stratics at how very serious, and for many people increasingly real issues are being used to apply a little flavour to a game. Think releasing "Dustbowl - The MMO" in 1929. And if I try and act like my character and I myself actually do in the real world... well it feels like I'm just hectoring and lecturing you all on political tactics and issues when we're all here for escapism and the soothing balm of a little fun. And I hate, hate, HATE feeling like that.
It's especially grating for me as I mentioned today at the end of this arc that the name "Koba" is almost certainly taken from "Koba The Dread", Martin Amis' book on Stalin (or rather, mostly about himself whilst paraphrasing everyone else's book on Stalin). Koba the character in UO is also clearly modelled on the rough of trajectory Stalin's career rise too. So are we going to have to thrash out the whole problem of what happens when decent minded people run into the pragmatic and power limitations on good acts within a corrupt world? About where exactly the point at which Revolution ceases to be about genuine, pressing grievance and becomes the monster that eats it's own children? There's no easy answers to that damn problem in real life yet; and the good guys usually lose what ever answer anyone comes up with; but are we really going to have to fight over the issue in Britannia too? Fortunately I suspect there's a new resulting balance already scripted in to the arc, so some form of "good" ending is heavily biased towards. And in the meantime...
... In real life, I communicate a lot with our current Lord Protector, or at least I did. He seems to have dropped off the internet recently. I know he's under a lot of pressure in reality, so I really don't like even roleplaying to under cut his position because I am not currently sure how he'll take it. Which leaves me juggling futures and political solutions that let people with real emotions adapt to events without feeling personally betrayed... I can probably see a way forward, I mentioned today perhaps we need a "war council" of some kind which would both address political democratic legitimacy without involving the politics of personality. But damn it, it's re-fighting the Russian Revolution again to outmanoeuvre Stalin... whilst knowing that for people I care about, it might not be an academic question at all. That goes for Fynn too of course; it may be roleplayed, but damn it I will not be drawn into declaring that just because an action isn't perfect, you should abandon people because it's too hard to work together at being perfectable.
Combine that with the terrible, TERRIBLE design of most of the recent Published Arc content, it being nothing more than an insane grind for hamfistedly limited shinies and I'm really, really having difficulty keeping my engagement in this arc on a "fun" level. It's throwing all my emotions off when I log in, because I just find myself staring at the screen and muttering "You must have a really, REALLY limited understanding of human nature to think you could sell us THAT". And gawd, it's exhausting me. So... Sorry again folks if I've made it harder for you all in turn.
But that's not the hardest issue. It's almost impossible to have meaningful debate online often, much less in a computer game, and as soon as it the contents of the Arc were announced you had people on Stratics looking forward to "beating hippies" and getting revenge on the "Occupy" movement by proxy... How edifying. Others have already expressed their disgust on Stratics at how very serious, and for many people increasingly real issues are being used to apply a little flavour to a game. Think releasing "Dustbowl - The MMO" in 1929. And if I try and act like my character and I myself actually do in the real world... well it feels like I'm just hectoring and lecturing you all on political tactics and issues when we're all here for escapism and the soothing balm of a little fun. And I hate, hate, HATE feeling like that.
It's especially grating for me as I mentioned today at the end of this arc that the name "Koba" is almost certainly taken from "Koba The Dread", Martin Amis' book on Stalin (or rather, mostly about himself whilst paraphrasing everyone else's book on Stalin). Koba the character in UO is also clearly modelled on the rough of trajectory Stalin's career rise too. So are we going to have to thrash out the whole problem of what happens when decent minded people run into the pragmatic and power limitations on good acts within a corrupt world? About where exactly the point at which Revolution ceases to be about genuine, pressing grievance and becomes the monster that eats it's own children? There's no easy answers to that damn problem in real life yet; and the good guys usually lose what ever answer anyone comes up with; but are we really going to have to fight over the issue in Britannia too? Fortunately I suspect there's a new resulting balance already scripted in to the arc, so some form of "good" ending is heavily biased towards. And in the meantime...
... In real life, I communicate a lot with our current Lord Protector, or at least I did. He seems to have dropped off the internet recently. I know he's under a lot of pressure in reality, so I really don't like even roleplaying to under cut his position because I am not currently sure how he'll take it. Which leaves me juggling futures and political solutions that let people with real emotions adapt to events without feeling personally betrayed... I can probably see a way forward, I mentioned today perhaps we need a "war council" of some kind which would both address political democratic legitimacy without involving the politics of personality. But damn it, it's re-fighting the Russian Revolution again to outmanoeuvre Stalin... whilst knowing that for people I care about, it might not be an academic question at all. That goes for Fynn too of course; it may be roleplayed, but damn it I will not be drawn into declaring that just because an action isn't perfect, you should abandon people because it's too hard to work together at being perfectable.
Combine that with the terrible, TERRIBLE design of most of the recent Published Arc content, it being nothing more than an insane grind for hamfistedly limited shinies and I'm really, really having difficulty keeping my engagement in this arc on a "fun" level. It's throwing all my emotions off when I log in, because I just find myself staring at the screen and muttering "You must have a really, REALLY limited understanding of human nature to think you could sell us THAT". And gawd, it's exhausting me. So... Sorry again folks if I've made it harder for you all in turn.