[Parry] JOAT on pure fighter

[Ford Taunus]

Hi,
I have done some calculations and tests and I ended up to a conclusion, that pure human parry fighter is a bad choice.
Seems like JOAT bushido ruins my parry with the shield.
This is real "show stopper". Missed 5% parry chance is really needed on high-end fights.
The pure fighter is already lot behind bushido based fighter. And I think JOAT should not be as "penalty" here.
Has anybody confirmed this before? Or is my calculations even wrong?

 

[Khyro]

It's not supposed to, unless they changed the formula at some point:

Five on Friday - January 25, 2008 - UOGuide, the Ultima Online Encyclopedia

"Does the Jack of All Trades bonus affect the parry/bushido relationship?"

First of all, a few explanations:

Jack of All Trades: a human racial bonus that gives humans a bit of skill (+20) in everything. (This ONLY serves as a minor chance to succeed at untrained skills - it doesn't affect a skill at all once you train it past 20.)

Bushido and Parry: Bushido gives a bonus to your chance to parry with weapons, but reduces your chance to parry with a shield.

What the question is really asking is, does that +20 Bushido from JoAT reduce my chance to parry with a shield? And the answer is no - the JoAT bushido has no effect on your ability to parry whatsoever. Leurocian was particularly thorough with this one - JoAT was specifically designed not to have that effect, and it says so in the code itself, the actual scripts don't use that modifier, plus Leurocian wrote a test script just to make sure, and, sure enough, JoAT does not reduce your parry chance with a shield.

 

[chester rockwell]

This was covered a long time ago. Joat is not supposed to interfere with parry.

 

[Ford Taunus]

Joat is not supposed to interfere with parry.

Are you sure? I think JOAT indeed help human fighter (If he got no "real skill")?
If parry dont work at all with JOAT.. we got bug here.
@chester rockwell : Can you confirm this?

It's not supposed to, unless they changed the formula at some point:

Ah it is my bad testings then. I retest with more hits.

 

[chester rockwell]

Are you sure? I think JOAT indeed help human fighter? Need test?


Ah it is my bad testings then. I retest with more hits.

I'm about as sure as I can be. I read in a diff thread that kyronix or someone spoke about it when the joat skills went active and that it shouldn't interfere. I haven't sat there and counted hits/misses for 1,000 times or anything.

 

[Ford Taunus]

I'm about as sure as I can be. I read in a diff thread that kyronix or someone spoke about it when the joat skills went active and that it shouldn't interfere. I haven't sat there and counted hits/misses for 1,000 times or anything.

Okis. Need test. It can be found out fast. Just a few mins. I test when I got online.