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Well i had someone with 0 wrestle bash me for some str gains. So i guess u'd use Spirit speak for Int and Snooping or something silimar for Dex.
From what i understand you dont need to gain in the skill, just have the skill checked by using it. But don't hold me to it, I'm still trying to catch up from Pre AoS ways LOL
From what i understand you dont need to gain in the skill, just have the skill checked by using it. But don't hold me to it, I'm still trying to catch up from Pre AoS ways LOL
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BartofCats
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they made it so that you have to actually gain in a skill in order to gain in a stat. Why??? well... it still makes the dev team scratch their heads when they do something stupid like this.
They claim it was to "make it easier" for vets to gain the stats... HAHAHAHA my claim is that they made it harder for the legit players *AGAIN* to do anything in the game.
They claim it was to "make it easier" for vets to gain the stats... HAHAHAHA my claim is that they made it harder for the legit players *AGAIN* to do anything in the game.
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Teeshy
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In the "players corner" FAQ there's a groovy chart that shows which skills help gain in each stat (I use it a lot =P)
This thread, post #9
This thread, post #9
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Sebrina
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Because of the changes, any new character that I create starts with Wrestling to bring up Strength as fast as possible. Even if it is a Mage, it is frustrating to try dawning certain armor or weapons and getting a message that you do not have the strength to do so.
Working out the DEX & INT seems to fall in place after that....actually dropping the wrestling in favor of other skills...yah sounds stupid, but it's been my solution for a long time.
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Sir Stain
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Now think about this! You are a new player. You join the game only to find that a few MONTHS later you are NOT a player that can go against just fairly difficult monsters much less PVP. By the time that player can be a contender he or she is tired of the game because all they have done is work skills and stats. Another lost acct! Food for thought!
The answer to your problem lies here:
http://vboards.stratics.com/showpost.php?p=858035&postcount=6
http://vboards.stratics.com/showpost.php?p=858035&postcount=6
If you have a soul stone or fragment, you can clear off a little space and use that for stat gains. If you are a new character, you should have a lot of space for stat gain.
I will say that training stats and skills is a lot easier for vets than new players. Time saving tricks aside, items often make stat gain easy. If I don't mind a new character having low karma, I will put a cloak of corruption + various cursed artifacts with hit point regen on a character and watch meditation and focus jump up, gaining stats along the way. Again, this will make you an outcast, but it does get stats done. For maxed out characters, if one of your skills is meditation or focus, you can usually set this to down and regain it later, using a few borrowed points from thse skills to pingpong between skills like arms lore, eval int, anatomy, music, mining, whatever.
I will say that training stats and skills is a lot easier for vets than new players. Time saving tricks aside, items often make stat gain easy. If I don't mind a new character having low karma, I will put a cloak of corruption + various cursed artifacts with hit point regen on a character and watch meditation and focus jump up, gaining stats along the way. Again, this will make you an outcast, but it does get stats done. For maxed out characters, if one of your skills is meditation or focus, you can usually set this to down and regain it later, using a few borrowed points from thse skills to pingpong between skills like arms lore, eval int, anatomy, music, mining, whatever.
You dont need space to gain skill in order to gain stats.
For example - ani Lore raises Str. If you are a newb gaining lore, lock dex, and int, and str will gain.
It will gain massivley slowly toward the end of the skill - 85-100. Once the ani lore skill hits 100, so long as the arrow is pointing up, and u keep loring an animal, it will gain stats (str), faster than it did, then when u were gaining skill. See my post above and click the link for what skill raises what stat.
For example - ani Lore raises Str. If you are a newb gaining lore, lock dex, and int, and str will gain.
It will gain massivley slowly toward the end of the skill - 85-100. Once the ani lore skill hits 100, so long as the arrow is pointing up, and u keep loring an animal, it will gain stats (str), faster than it did, then when u were gaining skill. See my post above and click the link for what skill raises what stat.
I have noticed this. If I set my arrows up/down with a maxed out character to make slight moves, if I'm not careful, I'll have to fix a lot more. I'm not sure they are really that much faster, but it isn't something I've really tested.
I do think it is easier to build a character stats first then skills. Any casting skill really needs that mana, and melee skill really needs that swing speed from dex, etc. Though with that in mind, I often build characters in a piece wise fashion, building skills on an already developed character. If someone plans to make lots of characters or remake characters frequently, a soulstone is a really good investment.
Stats are very easy to raise now. Just get to your skill cap (easy for old chars), or just buy unneeded skills to reach your cap if it's a new char. Once you're at your skill cap, set Mining to raise, but don't have anything pointed down, grab a few shovels and hit the mountains or a cave. Lock Dex & Int so you can raise Str (or lock Str if you want to raise Int) and just mine away. If you're an elf, you won't even get any ore or use up a shovel, but after 5 mins or so you will start to gain. You can get from 20 to 120 in less then two hours. For Dex gains, set Lockpicking to go up, get a locked box and a few hundred picks and dex will fly up (again it usually takes 5 mins or so for the 1st gain). You will never open the box but you can easily get to 125 in less then 2 hours (if you want to raise Int, just lock dex).
If you don't want to buy skills to your cap, you can do the same two skills, but everytime you reach 25 in that skill, use a soulstone (or frag) to remove the skill (and you can flush the skill off the stone w/out using a charge) and start training again. Obviously this is more of a challenge to do with mining, since you have to be in a house or Inn to use the stone, but with Lockpicking you can do it in your house.
If you don't want to buy skills to your cap, you can do the same two skills, but everytime you reach 25 in that skill, use a soulstone (or frag) to remove the skill (and you can flush the skill off the stone w/out using a charge) and start training again. Obviously this is more of a challenge to do with mining, since you have to be in a house or Inn to use the stone, but with Lockpicking you can do it in your house.
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Lord Drakelord
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Well I had this list parked on my PC for a long time, I understand that if you use a skill, it will checks the first stat, then the 2nd.