Then your argument would be wrong.
It's true. Just check out the rares collector section of this very forum.
Never said it wasn't true, just that it was laughable to the majority of the population... We of the majority don't see a need to change the way gold is handled to accommodate those who feel that a bank box that will ONLY hold 125m is somehow insufficient.
Your right it is laughable..to me also...but ...alas...your wrong too...because the values do vary..the bare minimum some of these ''made'' EM event items are 200m gold...the norm is 500m and yes my friend....some go for much much more than that...
Errr theve been restarted for a long time now the events.....i think were on season 11??? of the events..pretty sure..it deffo DID contribute my friend.....Lets just say for sure ....EMs dropping 2-3-4-5 billion on the floor is not helping the UO economy one bit [end]
and again quite simply...why the hell are the devs not doing anything about the duping...thats still going on this week for sure...we only need look at the sphinxs to see that...and to say only 5-6 have been for sale?? ive seen that many already on one shard...and thats the public ones...
I also did think in these lines
I have played UO, for 16 years, not a single break. I placed, and still own my in town luna house from 1st day Atlantic Luna existed. if the classic client were "canned" all 3 of my accounts would be closed, that day. and if the defense is "more people play enhanced anyways" no, around 75% of people on Atlantic that I have met since enhanced client was created hate it, and nearly half of those people feel the same way I do about closing their account if classic client were deleted, personally I think enhanced client looks cartoonish, undetailed, and is overall junk. but of course, some people say the same about classic, and everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Siege is an empty cesspool that consists of about 8 pvpers strutting around pretending to be hardcore all the while vendoring each others gear back after they die.This has to be Atlantic, right? I mean what other shard has a population that could support the buying and selling of items like you describe? 500m for a single silly item, no matter how rare, is laughable to people on most shards. You speak of things such as this as commonplace among the people you associate with... I can assure you that the vast majority of the (all shards) population considers 500m for a single piece of electron garbage as laughable..... Those of you that are billionaires do not either represent or speak for the majority of us who go about our normal UO lives totally content with a couple of mill in the bank. And we are the vast majority, no matter how vocal the half dozen here - who often wish to represent themselves as one of us. I fully expect we'll hear from them shortly..... How their ears must be burning by now...
You want real UO? Come to Siege like I did... We have the economy that all of UO had a decade or so back... 500m for a single item - lmao. Of course, you'll have a few adjustments to make... You won't be as safe at all times as you are now - but you'll soon find that the element of the unknown is what you've been missing for years now. And we have a very large population of people who don't go around killing people for fun, contrary to what you might have imagined. Many of them will be happy to assist you in acclimating here and teach you the best ways to avoid our pk population. Or, if you wish, you may become one of them... Either way, you'll love it...
Sorry, I digress from the OP... 500m for a single item is quite simply laughable.
Oh, did I mention that you can keep your house and have one on Siege too now? So, exactly what do you have to lose? Won't increase your monthly contribution to EA one iota... Come and join us and leave this prodo shard insanity to those who wish to stay a part of it... Announce yourself, if you wish, on the Siege forum here. You'll get all your questions answered.....
Represent....
Sorry most excellent Kelmo as this was not intended to offend you.Aww...
As I have explained before, merely introducing a new item -- into any economy, of any scale -- does not create inflation. It is simple economic fact. That a seller can command a high price is because money is already there. That prices continually go up is because the money supply is increasing.
..... and as i explained... my friend gold is being made and put into the economy...so people are duping more gold to buy the items
yes indeed exactly to be fair...gold prices have indeed halved..hence item prices have doubled...
And if you bothered to read what I wrote, you would have seen that I talk about creation of gold (UO's increase of its money supply) as separate from the creation of an item itself. You're talking about them as if they're the same.
Your opinion is worthless since it's based on hearsay alone... Go back to your typical trolling....
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That new money will be spent or saved is a given. Thus the mere introduction of extra money into an economy is inherently inflationary. Once economic players realize that there's extra money available to them, they know they can bid up prices. Take a commodities trader who's been informed that his clients can obtain a low-interest loan to cover whatever extra it takes to secure ____, enabling him to bid an even higher price. In the real world, an increase in the money supply that's greater than demand for borrowing means that interest rates will fall.
Not being a huge trader, I haven't taken notice. Are you talking about absolute amounts, or a percent increase? Have you accounted for supply and demand, like with ingots to make lower-level runics? Have you compared to prices increases after AOS? (Insurance meant not losing valuable items, so players could spend gold on nicer items that they no longer had to fear losing. It wasn't a matter of PKs, but dying in a dungeon and not making it back in time.) How much is from dupers?
Then why did you say "before EM items"? They've been around as long as UO's had game-driven roleplay and quests.
1. The EM drops 5 billion on floor ...ie 10 drops worth 500k each
The way i see it your example still have cause and effect
The bugs that have allowed duping over the years are inherant in the UO code itself (server side) and the client used has 0 bearing on it.
1. The EM drops 10 items on the floor, 0 gold enters the system. Value is determined by collectors, gold that would pay for it already exists.
ahhh... the truth hurts yes..ears burning etc etc etc...and please no trash talk ....high school understanding my arse......your not in 'general chat' now...save it for then ..ok
You babbled a lot, but you still did not explain how the mere introduction of an item causes inflation. Your steps 2 through 13 are exactly what I have pointed out, what Uvtha is also pointing out: any and all inflation is caused only by the creation of new money. Whether it's duping or someone farming for gold (or selling items to NPCs in the old days), the creation of the item itself does nothing by itself. The same reason a diamond selling for $30 million, or a 787 selling for $140 million, without causing inflation, is the same reason a new EM item also doesn't cause inflation. There is inflation only when the money supply increases. Think I have explained that well enough for you?
