There are actually some people interested in true PVP. The spawns part does not pertain to PVP, it pertains to PKing of people not interested in PVP. And every spawn in tram or elsewhere is also available to everyone, including PVP and non-PVP.
With out the spawn there is no point to pvp. No reward, nothing to fight for. it turns into Yew gate ganking.
Because every evil red pk type, or nearly all of them, also have their secret blue trammies that they play. They already get the best of both worlds, they just won't admit to it.
Don't confuse new content as content they already have access to, same applies to trammel players.
You had ample opportunity to reply, you merely let someone else give a rebuttal for your response.
While you cite human nature you only offer PVPers being the problem.
IMO it's bad enough to have to deal with Push Thru in Fel or Paragons in Ilsh... as well as all the mage casting spawn and everything towards the end of most every champ spawn... but to have to deal with stealth archers potshotting you every oppertunity to 1 hit kill you and vanishing is NOT my idea of fun... IMO the spawn is more than enough challenge for me... I do not enjoy doing all the work to have some jerk like that come in at the last moment and take all my hard work. I don't find any thrill in trying to battle something that is constantly invising and pot shotting me. Does not make anything "fun" in the least. It makes it frustrating and annoying... eventually it just makes it not worth the effort. So you wonder then why Fel is dead and there is no one to fight???? Well IMO that's not really a fight. That's pretty darn 1 sided... That's like going to an EM Event with a boss that sucks you in and drops all those pools around it making it impossible to escape and making it so the ONLY way to recover your corpse is to have one of those cash bought staves in your possession to pull your corpse well out of the way.
This is the wrinkle in the all-Fel shard. But ... how about this:
Truth is truth no matter who states it and some of us have big people things that have to be taken care of that take priority over responding to folks like you
That would actually be great, there should be PvP only shards and NON PvP shards but it is never going to happen.
Rule #1 if you are PK'd ... never, ever accept a rez from those who killed you. Avoids rez-kill 100%. It used to be you never carried anything on you that you didn't want to lose. Now it's if you don't insure it, you can lose it.
But it is about time for it to happen? There are a lot of MMO and other games out there that have the option for PVP and non PVP shards. Is UO that badly derelict after 20 years in existence that they cannot manage something like this, especially with the changes in the game they implemented? Let them experiment with just ONE non PVP/Pk shard only and see what happens. The majority of the UO population would want to go on that server.
And yet here you are.Truth is truth no matter who states it and some of us have big people things that have to be taken care of that take priority over responding to folks like you
Yep there I was after 28 tons of rock spread, a load of RR Ties unloaded, a boar moved out of the breeding pen, injectors on a tractor cleaned and reset, the generators getting their spring oil changes and maint. and 8 miles of fence walked and repairs made and the sows moved to that pasture. Oh and a 30x96 greenhouse full of plants watered. Kind of amazing I had time to sit down and acknowledge your existence ain't it.
You must work quick to do that an hour and a half after I replied, and only 7 minutes after rail did.
There is no fault in requesting pvp content or fixes. This thread however, isn't one of them.
I guess your reading comprehension really sucks. Because I said all of UO so here let me put it so you can understand. If you are ANYWHERE in UO and you have agreed to PvP then any body that has done the same can fight you ANYWHERE in UO. Is that easier to understand.
So you want the DEVs to make a 3rd Fel shard, boy what a waiste of resources or is SP to hard for you. You want your care bear Fel with Ins.
That is not PvP, that is a PKers killing a PvMer. There are no more PvPers anymore, just greedy PKers.
So the only way you can PvP is with a item reward, sure sounds like a PKer killing a PvMer to me.
So are you trying to tell us that you are a respectful Pker, how nice to know. Killing PvMers really boosts your ego don't it. Gotta have that item to prove how great a PKer you really are. PSs and AoS killed PvP and turned you into nothing but glorified PKers.
You want to hear cry babies just listen to the PKers when you talk about taking away their only reason to PvP or tell them to play SP and we all know that SP is way to hard for the care bear prodo shard PKers. This isn't about guardzone fighting it is about the PvPers insisting that they need and item to fight over but what is funny is they are killing PvMers not other PvPers because they can't handle that.
But I thought PKers needed sheep, where will you find them in a shard full of PKers.
*duh*. If you don't even try to fight back who's fault is it?What have u got to lose? Hopefully u learn something over time, I know I have.
)Really bro? Ipso facto, PvM folks only do PvM for an item reward? This ENTIRE game is based on doing things for an item reward. That's ALL our GOAL & there's NOTHING wrong w/ that. I can't stand Yew but put me in a Harry fight or Champ fight where the teams r goal oriented? That can be pure UO magic win or lose.
Ignore it like you do the schmuck blowing his car horn for nothing. We're adults, it happens, deal with it(or block/ignore them).
As for another PvP Shard ? We have Seige & Mugen. If another one starts, I couldn't care less so long as its non-transferable.
If u try to chase me out of Fel on my home shard of +20yrs by transforming it into ™Candy Land™ u got a fight on ur hands
Id be lieing if I said I never killed one doing a spawn. But the last time I recall doing it I gave them their scrolls after i resurrected them.
look bud, UO was not meant to be a utopia. It was supposed to represent a time when there were no safety nets. Mix that in with some magic and lore and that was UO. It is the game thousands fell in love with. It was a time when you had to band together with your fellow mates in order to win something. Champ spawns are that. Get together with your friends and win something. There is not a single thing in this game that isnt soloable because its all based in tram. champs and harrys are something in this game that requires a bit of effort.
sounds like the only way you want to pvm is for the reward to.... double edge sword buddy.
Sorry but most of the pvp/pks in this thread are full of crap. Siege has been a shard designed for this since it's inception. There is a good, albeit small group of PvPrs on Siege that get by just fine fulfilling their pvp needs. Occasionally others from other shards come over and give it a try but most of them fail and move on. There are a handful that stick around and wreak havoc or cause a steady stir in the environment and actually bring something to the flavor of Siege. Then there are you jokers, and you know who you are. You scream you want an all Felucca shard but you know you don't all really want that. If you were "forced" to move all of your characters to a pvp only shard most of you would quit and you know it. A small few would stick around and do nothing but ghost cam champ spawns, and then rush in and raid it for scrolls, or you would run around Yew gate with your entire suit insured pretending that you're actually having fun. If you're such die hard fighter types that only get your heart rate up by fighting real people why can't you come to Siege and work up characters and then do it there every day ? Yeah yeah I know, some of you will reply now and talk about how terrible it is, and how people house hide. No, those are PvMr's who play here because they like the Fear Factor, that doesn't mean they enjoy getting their a$$ handed to them and then dry looted of their tamer LRC suits, that's not pvp and you know it. If there aren't enough active PvPrs for your liking, bring your damn friends with you and set up shop , but here's a tip, don't be such a Douchebag when you do come over. If you kill one , two or 50 people, gather up your spoils take them back to your house, put them on a vendor, whatever, but don't scream out your useless drivel like you tend to do. And if Bo, Max and the rest of the Vice group get the best of you, don't lie in GC that it was 8v2 and Siege sux and there's never any suits for sale, just go back to your production shard, trammel facet where you KNOW you spend most of your time. Then start up another Stratics thread about how you need an all felucca shard....end rant.
Siege is awesome. but it isnt something someone can just log in for 30 minutes a day to have fun on. It takes a lot of work and more than one account to be good on siege. I think if they would remove the character limit most people would be a lot more willing to go there. Not to mention. No one right now could have a character built on siege immediately like they are used to on prodo shards.
Yeah I realize the 1 toon limit isn't appealing. A lot of regular residents wish they would increase it, but for some reason @Mesanna thinks the shard is perfect the way it is. Of course she and 2 or 3 others are the only ones that think that.
hehe yeah that makes since. even if it was just 3. So people could have one crafter, one dexxer and one mage. I think that would suffice.
I enjoy playing all the game content, I don't do Yew Gate - rarely.
