New Cooking FAQ!
Intro
What you can make - break out into different food types
Ingredients - where to acquire, how to make the ingredients you can make
Skill gain
Tips & Tricks
Firstly, welcome to the Chef's forum, make yourself at home and ask anything you want if it's not detailed already answered in this FAQ
Note, that Chefs require tools (ie skillet, rolling pin, flour sifter) to cook these days, unlike in the old days when you just needed the ingredients. See info on tools within the FAQ below
A few general questions (taken from the original FAQ):
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1.) Why in the world would you want to be a Chef?
2.) How do these tools work?
3.) Where can I be trained in cooking?
4.) My cooking is XX.X%. What should I make to raise skill?
5.) Can GM Chefs apply a maker's mark to the items they create?
6.) Where can I cook my food?
7.) Where can I fill my water pitcher?
8.) Help, I can't cook my pies!! What do I do?
9.) How do you harvest wheat?
10.) How do you use a flour mill?
11.) Help, my flour mill doesn't make flour!!
12.) Does food have any affect on skill gain or magery success?
13.) Does eating do anything beneficial?
14.) How many fishsteaks/bread loaves from 0 to gm?
15.) Is cooking profitable?
16.) What other skills go good with cooking?
17.) Where can I buy ingredients and other cooking supplies?
18.) How do you make tribal paint?
19.) What is the minimum Cooking skill required to mix tribal paint?
20.) What else can a Chef make, and how do you make it?
21.) Got any tips to share?
22.) How do I use the menu?
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The answers:
<font color=green>1.) Why in the world would you want to be a Chef?</font color=green>
- In truth, if you have to ask this question then perhaps you'll never understand...
Currently there is little benefit to being a chef, except for immense RP possibilities and fun
<font color=green>2.) How do these tools work?</font color=green>
- The tools are a chef's best friend, spouses not included.
There is a seperate section detail the tools in all their glory further down
<font color=green>3.) Where can I be trained in cooking?</font color=green>
- You can be trained in the basics of the cullinary arts by the following NPCs:
Bakers, Cooks and Herbalists using the standard "(name) train cooking"
<font color=green>4.) My cooking is XX.X%. What should I make to raise skill?</font color=green>
- There was once a day, long before most of us were around when it was commonly beleived that making cakes was the best course of action, I've never been too sure about that, and it certainly isn't the case now...
With the general ideas of gaining skills, each skill check comes complete with a chance to gain based on the difficulty of the skill check (The theory being that if you have only just learned how to do something your more likely to gain experience in the skill through making it than you are if you've been making it for years previously). This is where the cooking skill stumbles a little...
There is no skill base. With everything but Tribal Paint your chances of succeeding are equal to your skill (0.0% skill and you'll never succeed, 100.0% skill and you'll never fail), and so any cooking action with a skill check (excluding tribal paint) will give you a chance to gain.
The recommended method is to cook bread until you stop gaining for a long period of time (meaning you've either hit skill-cap or a gain wall), then cook a stack of 500-1000 fish steaks all in one go, repeating until you gain. This is a strongly beleived method of braking through the walls, and after you break the wall then return to bread. All the way to GM.
<font color=green>5.) Can GM Chefs apply a maker's mark to the items they create?</font color=green>
- A GM chef can make food with a makers mark providing it is not stackable
The final step of creating the item has a 55% chance of being exceptional, and thus bearing a makers mark.
These items have no benefit other than being a nice centrepeice.
<font color=green>6.) Where can I cook my food?</font color=green>
- There are 4 different types of cooking that have different requirements for cooking:
Ingredients - Can be done anywhere, does not require the presence of a heat source
Preparations - Can be done anywhere, does not require the presence of a heat source
Baking - Requires the presence to an oven
Barbecue - Requires the presence of any heat source (oven, forge, campfire, heating stand) on the floor.
<font color=green>7.) Where can I fill my water pitcher?</font color=green>
- The easiest place to fill a water pitcher is from a water trough. These are found in some bakers shops and most stables.
note: Jhelom has no water troughs at all
<font color=green>8.) Help, I can't cook my pies!! What do I do?</font color=green>
- anyone who cooked before publish 14 will recall a bug which prevented the succesful cooking of pies.
This is now fixed.
<font color=green>9.) How do you harvest wheat?</font color=green>
- Go to any wheat field and start double clicking on the wheat stalks growing out of the ground; it will turn into sheaves which can then be picked up. Only the "tall" stalks of wheat can be harvested, not the "short" ones.
<font color=green>10.) How do you use a flour mill?</font color=green>
- I won't tell you the old way... as far as I know it still works and is still as buggy as before. The new way is to select "Sack of Flour" from the ingredients section of the menu.
<font color=green>11.) Help, my flour mill doesn't make flour!!</font color=green>
- See question 10, the only known causes are:
a.) No wheat (see question 9)
b.) You are using the method of milling (see question 10)
<font color=green>12.) Does food have any affect on skill gain or magery success?</font color=green>
You tell me... I only work here...
Some sources such as the <a href="http://www.ubb.org">UBB</a> insist it is unnecesary, whereas others insist it does.
As I always say "An empty Tummy is a sad tummy", surely it can't hurt to have a happy tummy.
<font color=green>13.) Does eating do anything beneficial?</font color=green>
- Yes. Eating food, particularly filling foods like ribs will recover a portion of lost stamina, much like a refresh potion. Being full also allows stamina and life to recover at a faster rate on its own.
<font color=green>14.) How many fishsteaks/bread loaves from 0 to gm?</font color=green>
- This is currently unclear, but if you haven't made it to GM yet then you haven't cooked enough/php-bin/shared/images/icons/smile.gif
<font color=green>15.) Is cooking profitable?</font color=green>
- It won't get you a lot of gold, no. But it is very rewarding in non material ways (...which I imagine you may not interested in if you're asking this). While it may not be the most profitable profession, a new Chef will still be able to acquire enough cash to keep on cooking. For town-bound Chefs, visit a Butcher. Buy some raw birds (3gp) and cook them. Sell them to Cooks at taverns for 10gp. Chicken legs (2gp) sell too (6gp). Or you can bake bread, buying a sack of flour (3gp) and selling the bread (2gp each, up to a maximum of 20 loaves per sack)
For those Chefs with a bit of fighting ability, kill birds and cook them, then sell the meat as above. If you hunt animals that give ribs (about everything in the game), then sell the raw ribs (4gp) to the Butcher or cook them and sell them (7gp) to the Innkeepers.
<font color=green>16.) What other skills go good with cooking?</font color=green>
- Anything you like. The beauty of cooking is that it doesn't need to rely on other skills. Tailoring is a good choice, however, especially if you're slaughtering your own animals for the meat. (You might as well put those hides to use while you're out collecting ribs, or vice versa.) If you are a Chef/Tailor, nothing on a corpse goes to waste.
<font color=green>17) Where can I buy ingredients and other cooking supplies? </font color=green>
- There are many different types of NPC's who would be happy to sell you everything you need:
Cooks sell the all-important cooking tools (flour sifters, skillets and rolling pins) as well as bread, pies, cakes, muffins, cheese, cooked birds, legs of lamb, chicken legs, misc. vegetables in bowls, soup, stew, roast pigs, sacks of flour, and honey.
Bakers sell bread, pies, cakes, muffins, french bread, cookies, pizzas, honey, sacks of flour [20 uses ea], and bowls of flour [1 use ea].
Butchers sell bacon, bacon slabs (sometimes), ham, sausage, raw chicken legs, raw birds, raw legs of lamb, and raw cuts of ribs.
Farmers sell pumpkins, eggs, pitchers of milk, apples, pears, peaches, and other misc. fruit/vegetables.
Innkeepers sell misc. beverages, glass pitchers, bread, cheese, cooked birds, legs of lamb, chicken legs, cuts of ribs, misc. vegetables in bowls, soup, stew, pies, apples, pears, and other misc. fruit/vegetables.
Provisioners sell bread, legs of lamb, chicken legs, cooked birds, misc. beverages, apples, and pears.
Ranchers sell apples, pears, peaches, pumpkins, eggs, and other misc. fruit/vegetables.
Tavernkeepers sell misc. beverages, glass pitchers, bread, cheese, cooked birds, legs of lamb, misc. vegetables in bowls, soup, and pies.
Waiters/Waitresses sell misc. beverages, glass pitchers, bread, cheese, cooked birds, legs of lamb, misc. vegetables in bowls, soup, stew, and pies.
<font color=green>18.) How do you make tribal paint?</font color=green>
There is a selection in the menu under "Preparations"
<font color=green>19.) What is the minimum Cooking skill required to mix tribal paint? </font color=green>
- 80.0 displayed Cooking skill is needed to mix tribal paint.
<font color=green>20.) What else can a Chef make, and how do you make it? </font color=green>
- Here are all the menu selections listed under category:
Ingredients
Sack of Flour (Requires: Wheat)
Dough (Requires: Flour (1) Water (1))*
Sweet Dough (Requires: Dough (1) Honey (1))
Cake Mix (Requires: Sweet Dough (1) Flour (1))
Cookie Mix (Requires: Sweet Dough (1) Honey (1))
Preparations
Unbaked Quiche (Requires: Dough (1) Eggs (1))
Unbaked Meat Pie (Requires: Dough (1) Raw Meat (fish) (1))
Uncooked Sausage Pizza (Requires: Dough (1) Sausages (1))
Uncooked Cheese Pizza (Requires: Dough (1) Cheese (1))
Unbaked Fruit Pie (Requires: Dough (1) Pears (1))
Unbaked Peach Cobbler (Requires: Dough (1) Peaches (1))
Unbaked Apple Pie (Requires: Dough (1) Apples (1))
Unbaked Pumpkin Pie (Requires: Dough (1) Pumpkin (1))
Savage Skin Paint (Requires: Tribal Berry (1) Flour (1))
Baking
Bread Loaf (Requires: Dough (1) )
Pan of Cookies (Requires: Cookie Mix (1))
Cake (Requires: Cake Mix (1))
Muffins (Requires: Sweet dough (1))
Baked Quiche (Requires: Unbaked Quiche (1))
Baked Meat Pie (Requires: Unbaked Meat Pie (1))
Sausage Pizza (Requires: Uncooked Sausage Pizza (1))
Cheese Pizza (Requires: Uncooked Cheese Pizza (1))
Baked Fruit Pie (Requires: Unbaked Fruit Pie (1))
Baked Peach Cobbler (Requires: Unbaked Peach Cobbler (1))
Baked Apple Pie (Requires: Unbaked Apple Pie (1))
Baked Pumpkin Pie (Requires: Unbaked Pumpkin Pie (1))
Barbecue
Cooked Bird (Requires: Raw Bird (1))
Chicken Leg (Requires: Raw Chicken Leg (1))
Fish Steaks (Requires: Raw Fish Steaks (1))
Fried Eggs (Requires: Raw Eggs (1))
Leg of Lamb (Requires: Raw Leg of Lamb (1))
Cut of Ribs (Requires: Raw Rib (1))
*dough requires 1 charge of flour to make, a full sack contains 20 charges, also, water charges are not used up (As long as the pitcher has been filled by the player once).
<font color=green>21.) Got any tips to share? </font color=green>
- Here's a quick tip that is infinately useful to a training chef:
The menu has a category labelled “Last 10”, which lists the last 10 unique cooking attempts you have made. Create a lump of dough, then a loaf of bread. Now, click on the second button down and you will attempt to make that item and the listing for it will move to top of the list, leaving the other option conveniently in place under your mouse cursor, click again and they’ll swap.
<font color=green>22.) How do I use the menu?</font color=green>
- Check the menu section below
The Tools of the trade:
Chefs have a veritable arsenal of tools with which to vanquish their ingredients, leaving only finely cooked food in their wake. These are:
The rolling pin
The flour sifter
The skillet
All of the tools do the same job, and wear out after a random number of uses. Double clicking on a tool will bring up the menu, allowing you to select a type of cooking you wish to do:
Intro
What you can make - break out into different food types
Ingredients - where to acquire, how to make the ingredients you can make
Skill gain
Tips & Tricks
Firstly, welcome to the Chef's forum, make yourself at home and ask anything you want if it's not detailed already answered in this FAQ
Note, that Chefs require tools (ie skillet, rolling pin, flour sifter) to cook these days, unlike in the old days when you just needed the ingredients. See info on tools within the FAQ below
A few general questions (taken from the original FAQ):
<font color=purple>
1.) Why in the world would you want to be a Chef?
2.) How do these tools work?
3.) Where can I be trained in cooking?
4.) My cooking is XX.X%. What should I make to raise skill?
5.) Can GM Chefs apply a maker's mark to the items they create?
6.) Where can I cook my food?
7.) Where can I fill my water pitcher?
8.) Help, I can't cook my pies!! What do I do?
9.) How do you harvest wheat?
10.) How do you use a flour mill?
11.) Help, my flour mill doesn't make flour!!
12.) Does food have any affect on skill gain or magery success?
13.) Does eating do anything beneficial?
14.) How many fishsteaks/bread loaves from 0 to gm?
15.) Is cooking profitable?
16.) What other skills go good with cooking?
17.) Where can I buy ingredients and other cooking supplies?
18.) How do you make tribal paint?
19.) What is the minimum Cooking skill required to mix tribal paint?
20.) What else can a Chef make, and how do you make it?
21.) Got any tips to share?
22.) How do I use the menu?
</font color=purple>
The answers:
<font color=green>1.) Why in the world would you want to be a Chef?</font color=green>
- In truth, if you have to ask this question then perhaps you'll never understand...
Currently there is little benefit to being a chef, except for immense RP possibilities and fun
<font color=green>2.) How do these tools work?</font color=green>
- The tools are a chef's best friend, spouses not included.
There is a seperate section detail the tools in all their glory further down
<font color=green>3.) Where can I be trained in cooking?</font color=green>
- You can be trained in the basics of the cullinary arts by the following NPCs:
Bakers, Cooks and Herbalists using the standard "(name) train cooking"
<font color=green>4.) My cooking is XX.X%. What should I make to raise skill?</font color=green>
- There was once a day, long before most of us were around when it was commonly beleived that making cakes was the best course of action, I've never been too sure about that, and it certainly isn't the case now...
With the general ideas of gaining skills, each skill check comes complete with a chance to gain based on the difficulty of the skill check (The theory being that if you have only just learned how to do something your more likely to gain experience in the skill through making it than you are if you've been making it for years previously). This is where the cooking skill stumbles a little...
There is no skill base. With everything but Tribal Paint your chances of succeeding are equal to your skill (0.0% skill and you'll never succeed, 100.0% skill and you'll never fail), and so any cooking action with a skill check (excluding tribal paint) will give you a chance to gain.
The recommended method is to cook bread until you stop gaining for a long period of time (meaning you've either hit skill-cap or a gain wall), then cook a stack of 500-1000 fish steaks all in one go, repeating until you gain. This is a strongly beleived method of braking through the walls, and after you break the wall then return to bread. All the way to GM.
<font color=green>5.) Can GM Chefs apply a maker's mark to the items they create?</font color=green>
- A GM chef can make food with a makers mark providing it is not stackable
The final step of creating the item has a 55% chance of being exceptional, and thus bearing a makers mark.
These items have no benefit other than being a nice centrepeice.
<font color=green>6.) Where can I cook my food?</font color=green>
- There are 4 different types of cooking that have different requirements for cooking:
Ingredients - Can be done anywhere, does not require the presence of a heat source
Preparations - Can be done anywhere, does not require the presence of a heat source
Baking - Requires the presence to an oven
Barbecue - Requires the presence of any heat source (oven, forge, campfire, heating stand) on the floor.
<font color=green>7.) Where can I fill my water pitcher?</font color=green>
- The easiest place to fill a water pitcher is from a water trough. These are found in some bakers shops and most stables.
note: Jhelom has no water troughs at all
<font color=green>8.) Help, I can't cook my pies!! What do I do?</font color=green>
- anyone who cooked before publish 14 will recall a bug which prevented the succesful cooking of pies.
This is now fixed.
<font color=green>9.) How do you harvest wheat?</font color=green>
- Go to any wheat field and start double clicking on the wheat stalks growing out of the ground; it will turn into sheaves which can then be picked up. Only the "tall" stalks of wheat can be harvested, not the "short" ones.
<font color=green>10.) How do you use a flour mill?</font color=green>
- I won't tell you the old way... as far as I know it still works and is still as buggy as before. The new way is to select "Sack of Flour" from the ingredients section of the menu.
<font color=green>11.) Help, my flour mill doesn't make flour!!</font color=green>
- See question 10, the only known causes are:
a.) No wheat (see question 9)
b.) You are using the method of milling (see question 10)
<font color=green>12.) Does food have any affect on skill gain or magery success?</font color=green>
You tell me... I only work here...
Some sources such as the <a href="http://www.ubb.org">UBB</a> insist it is unnecesary, whereas others insist it does.
As I always say "An empty Tummy is a sad tummy", surely it can't hurt to have a happy tummy.
<font color=green>13.) Does eating do anything beneficial?</font color=green>
- Yes. Eating food, particularly filling foods like ribs will recover a portion of lost stamina, much like a refresh potion. Being full also allows stamina and life to recover at a faster rate on its own.
<font color=green>14.) How many fishsteaks/bread loaves from 0 to gm?</font color=green>
- This is currently unclear, but if you haven't made it to GM yet then you haven't cooked enough/php-bin/shared/images/icons/smile.gif
<font color=green>15.) Is cooking profitable?</font color=green>
- It won't get you a lot of gold, no. But it is very rewarding in non material ways (...which I imagine you may not interested in if you're asking this). While it may not be the most profitable profession, a new Chef will still be able to acquire enough cash to keep on cooking. For town-bound Chefs, visit a Butcher. Buy some raw birds (3gp) and cook them. Sell them to Cooks at taverns for 10gp. Chicken legs (2gp) sell too (6gp). Or you can bake bread, buying a sack of flour (3gp) and selling the bread (2gp each, up to a maximum of 20 loaves per sack)
For those Chefs with a bit of fighting ability, kill birds and cook them, then sell the meat as above. If you hunt animals that give ribs (about everything in the game), then sell the raw ribs (4gp) to the Butcher or cook them and sell them (7gp) to the Innkeepers.
<font color=green>16.) What other skills go good with cooking?</font color=green>
- Anything you like. The beauty of cooking is that it doesn't need to rely on other skills. Tailoring is a good choice, however, especially if you're slaughtering your own animals for the meat. (You might as well put those hides to use while you're out collecting ribs, or vice versa.) If you are a Chef/Tailor, nothing on a corpse goes to waste.
<font color=green>17) Where can I buy ingredients and other cooking supplies? </font color=green>
- There are many different types of NPC's who would be happy to sell you everything you need:
Cooks sell the all-important cooking tools (flour sifters, skillets and rolling pins) as well as bread, pies, cakes, muffins, cheese, cooked birds, legs of lamb, chicken legs, misc. vegetables in bowls, soup, stew, roast pigs, sacks of flour, and honey.
Bakers sell bread, pies, cakes, muffins, french bread, cookies, pizzas, honey, sacks of flour [20 uses ea], and bowls of flour [1 use ea].
Butchers sell bacon, bacon slabs (sometimes), ham, sausage, raw chicken legs, raw birds, raw legs of lamb, and raw cuts of ribs.
Farmers sell pumpkins, eggs, pitchers of milk, apples, pears, peaches, and other misc. fruit/vegetables.
Innkeepers sell misc. beverages, glass pitchers, bread, cheese, cooked birds, legs of lamb, chicken legs, cuts of ribs, misc. vegetables in bowls, soup, stew, pies, apples, pears, and other misc. fruit/vegetables.
Provisioners sell bread, legs of lamb, chicken legs, cooked birds, misc. beverages, apples, and pears.
Ranchers sell apples, pears, peaches, pumpkins, eggs, and other misc. fruit/vegetables.
Tavernkeepers sell misc. beverages, glass pitchers, bread, cheese, cooked birds, legs of lamb, misc. vegetables in bowls, soup, and pies.
Waiters/Waitresses sell misc. beverages, glass pitchers, bread, cheese, cooked birds, legs of lamb, misc. vegetables in bowls, soup, stew, and pies.
<font color=green>18.) How do you make tribal paint?</font color=green>
There is a selection in the menu under "Preparations"
<font color=green>19.) What is the minimum Cooking skill required to mix tribal paint? </font color=green>
- 80.0 displayed Cooking skill is needed to mix tribal paint.
<font color=green>20.) What else can a Chef make, and how do you make it? </font color=green>
- Here are all the menu selections listed under category:
Ingredients
Sack of Flour (Requires: Wheat)
Dough (Requires: Flour (1) Water (1))*
Sweet Dough (Requires: Dough (1) Honey (1))
Cake Mix (Requires: Sweet Dough (1) Flour (1))
Cookie Mix (Requires: Sweet Dough (1) Honey (1))
Preparations
Unbaked Quiche (Requires: Dough (1) Eggs (1))
Unbaked Meat Pie (Requires: Dough (1) Raw Meat (fish) (1))
Uncooked Sausage Pizza (Requires: Dough (1) Sausages (1))
Uncooked Cheese Pizza (Requires: Dough (1) Cheese (1))
Unbaked Fruit Pie (Requires: Dough (1) Pears (1))
Unbaked Peach Cobbler (Requires: Dough (1) Peaches (1))
Unbaked Apple Pie (Requires: Dough (1) Apples (1))
Unbaked Pumpkin Pie (Requires: Dough (1) Pumpkin (1))
Savage Skin Paint (Requires: Tribal Berry (1) Flour (1))
Baking
Bread Loaf (Requires: Dough (1) )
Pan of Cookies (Requires: Cookie Mix (1))
Cake (Requires: Cake Mix (1))
Muffins (Requires: Sweet dough (1))
Baked Quiche (Requires: Unbaked Quiche (1))
Baked Meat Pie (Requires: Unbaked Meat Pie (1))
Sausage Pizza (Requires: Uncooked Sausage Pizza (1))
Cheese Pizza (Requires: Uncooked Cheese Pizza (1))
Baked Fruit Pie (Requires: Unbaked Fruit Pie (1))
Baked Peach Cobbler (Requires: Unbaked Peach Cobbler (1))
Baked Apple Pie (Requires: Unbaked Apple Pie (1))
Baked Pumpkin Pie (Requires: Unbaked Pumpkin Pie (1))
Barbecue
Cooked Bird (Requires: Raw Bird (1))
Chicken Leg (Requires: Raw Chicken Leg (1))
Fish Steaks (Requires: Raw Fish Steaks (1))
Fried Eggs (Requires: Raw Eggs (1))
Leg of Lamb (Requires: Raw Leg of Lamb (1))
Cut of Ribs (Requires: Raw Rib (1))
*dough requires 1 charge of flour to make, a full sack contains 20 charges, also, water charges are not used up (As long as the pitcher has been filled by the player once).
<font color=green>21.) Got any tips to share? </font color=green>
- Here's a quick tip that is infinately useful to a training chef:
The menu has a category labelled “Last 10”, which lists the last 10 unique cooking attempts you have made. Create a lump of dough, then a loaf of bread. Now, click on the second button down and you will attempt to make that item and the listing for it will move to top of the list, leaving the other option conveniently in place under your mouse cursor, click again and they’ll swap.
<font color=green>22.) How do I use the menu?</font color=green>
- Check the menu section below
The Tools of the trade:
Chefs have a veritable arsenal of tools with which to vanquish their ingredients, leaving only finely cooked food in their wake. These are:
The rolling pin
The flour sifter
The skillet
All of the tools do the same job, and wear out after a random number of uses. Double clicking on a tool will bring up the menu, allowing you to select a type of cooking you wish to do: