A little from the meeting. I'm sad not more did show, special from the dark side.
Kelmo open the meeting
Kelmo: I would like to see an effort by the community to elect an "at large" council member from the population of Siege.
Kelmo: Hello and thank you all for participating in this open town hall meeting. These gardens certainly represent community.
Kelmo: While I believe things are shaping up, please remember this is a work in progress. Nothing is truely set in stone.
Kelmo: On the issue of forums... I have absolutly no control over what is posted at any forum. I am glad both provide public access.
Kelmo: I have some proposals I would like to present. Many of these come from ideas discussed in forums or sent privately.
Kelmo: The working name of the Council shall be the Siege Community Council. This may be re addressed at a later time.
Kelmo: The iniial SCC will consist of the sitting Governors, a representive of both recognized townships and myself.
Kelmo: I would like to see an effort by the community to elect an "at large" council member from the population of Siege.
Kelmo: I can only hope this happens. I will recuse myself from that process. I hope the other coucil members will as well.
Kelmo: The make, membership and responsibilities of the SCC will be on the first order of business. My commited goal is to serve Siege.
Kelmo: Other topics to discuss will be a permanent venue for the SCC to meet. There has been some interest in various Cities hosting.
Kelmo: Also a concern is the manner in which governors are elected. I trust each of these current elected officails.
Kelmo: We all must recognize that the votes can be manipulated. But then again... Blackthorn could show up any day and poke my eye.
Kelmo: Let's have some fun with this and see where it takes us as a community. Thank you for your interest and participation.
Kelmo: short and sweet
From now off, we needed a moderator badly as all talking at once and it become chaos. Also not all could hear all, so I'm sure a lot missed my ears too.
Election for Player Towns, special Safe Haven
Victim: has Nujelm Palace been looked at for a meeting place yet?
Kelmo: There has been some thinking this could be a one sided Council. I do not believe this will be the case
Kelmo: There are some excellebt palces to meet.
Kelmo: This is an open forum
Kelmo: Only in Vesper
Victim: you know it
Blind Otto: well then... where shall we start?
Tina Tink: I think it fine we start up with what we have
Tina Tink: then more community can come when they are ready
Blind Otto: *nods*<5595394>Victim: well, has Safehaven elected a leader yet Tina?
Kelmo: We must start some where
<16123769>Garth Grey: safehaven needs an election ?
Tina Tink: is on the way
<13499221>Luka Melehan: possibly....
<5595394>Victim: gotta be fair, right?
<18362133>Mish o sha: i vote Tina
Tina Tink: we have started it
<5595394>Victim: *nods*
Tina Tink: look at Safe Haven forum
<16123769>Garth Grey: safe haven has a forum ?
Kelmo: I will not meddle with the affairs of any Player town
<15417446>Kenzie Mori: no idea if they do
<1117873>Tina Tink: on Stratics
<5595394>Victim: it's a guild forum on Stratics
<16123769>Garth Grey: i need to get out more
<1117873>Tina Tink: you have house in Safe Haven?
<16123769>Garth Grey: me ? no
<9088401>Natalia Marais: anyone who has a house in Safe Haven gets a vote
<1117873>Tina Tink: ok
Victim: i have recused myself from the Vote, but Support Freja
<13499221>Luka Melehan: didn't know that. Tho not sure if I qualify, all the way on the other side of the swamp
<9088401>Natalia Marais: on who gets elected, Freja posted in the forum
Tina Tink: *Smiles*
Blind Otto: good, good. When are the votes due in?
<9088401>Natalia Marais: i ddin't see that part, we all get a book to turn in
<9088401>Natalia Marais: but I haven't done that yet
Tina Tink: first we need nomination
Tina Tink: then the voting
Blind Otto: ah. Good.
CharGar: hmm..Shame it wasnt done before this meeting
Victim: Will there be a Vote for Gilfane, or will Lady Hoffs be taking it on?
CharGar: no
Tina Tink: we did not have time
CharGar: We have voted Razz to be our representative
<5595394>Victim: Congratulations Razz
Starcon: *nods to Razz*
Razz: =)
<18362133>Mish o sha: congra
Blind Otto: *waves in Razz's direction*
Kelmo: As long as that is what Gilfane wishes.
CharGar: Indeed, it is
Blind Otto: aye
CharGar: Since he is so friendly with everyone!
<5595394>Victim: sure garth
Kelmo: I am not wanting to govern any communities. I am wanting to pull them together
Tina Tink: it is easier to make votes when one guild
Blind Otto: *nods*
Tina Tink: Safe Haven are several guilds
Tina Tink: so it will take a littl longer
Kelmo: I respect that Tina
Other good input from the meeting
Guildbooks in Luna
Holden Caulfield: maybe I small item, but I would like to see more guild books at the recruit station in Luna
Kelmo: I like that idea!
Tina Tink: good idea
Blind Otto: aye!
[Guild][Starcon]: what is the recruit station in Luna?
Natalia Marais: I didn't either
[Guild][Sprite Full]: no idea
[Guild][Tina Tink]: there are some tables at the stable
Holden Caulfield: yes near the stable area
Who should be a part of the SCC
Blind Otto: I think we've got the first under way... governors, and the two towns...
Blind Otto: but who else SHOULD be included who isn't here?
Blind Otto: I'd hate anyone to feel left out...
Sargatanza: i represent britanians hobo, we in!
Tina Tink: agree
Kelmo: That is an important discussion.
Victim: they can join in at anytime
Victim: that's not very inclusive Otto, there should be a way for new groups to join in
Blind Otto: I agree
Blind Otto: so... what do you suggest?
Tina Tink: I think a group can be a guild, an alliance, a player town
After trouble with communition, a channel was created and after some trouble with solve the communications problem, we are back to the discussion about the council
<6997829>Blind Otto: Well, we've got a start with the make-up... we do need a clear method for others to join
<5595394>Victim: ok mission one is find a solid place to hold meetings, and formulate a plan for communications
<13499221>Luka Melehan: meetings open to the public
<6997829>Blind Otto: We need to make sure everyone knows about this channel, if we're going to keep using it
<1117873>Tina Tink: I still feel we need this meeting to move around in the towns
<14658182>CharGar: I vote Nujelm castle as the meeting place going forward and forever
<1117873>Tina Tink: I vote no
<11063469>Branwyn of Errol: I second that
<5263969>Baby Doll: What was wrong with EM house?
<5595394>Victim: we can move it around, but we need solid places to be stable. and then a form of order
<15417446>Kenzie Mori: as stated you need someone to gate those that cannot gate there
<16123769>Garth Grey: defintely an underused city
<14658182>CharGar: of course you do tina
<5512560>Delores Duende: I third it
Sargatanza: sorry, but im not understand correct what we trying to do
<6997829>Blind Otto: I fourth it
<14658182>CharGar: a stable solid place
<13499221>Luka Melehan: should.....PKers have representation as a group, or just if thet gov a town
<14580797>Starcon: is there a gate to Nujelm?
Baby Doll: listen
<1117873>Tina Tink: em house was fine
<5512560>Delores Duende: use the crystal portals to get there
Baby Doll: hehe
<5595394>Victim: i like the EM place
<7980842>Nurse Miss Maude: no Starcon only out of Nujelm
<5512560>Delores Duende: we need guard zone
<14580797>Starcon: k
<14658182>CharGar: has to be guard zone
<5263969>Baby Doll: Isnt EM house in zone
<5595394>Victim: em house is guard zone
<1117873>Tina Tink: we do not need guard zone
<1117873>Tina Tink: this are Siege
<14658182>CharGar: "sighs"
<1117873>Tina Tink: if we can't make it without guard zone, it will nver work
<13499221>Luka Melehan: if meetings are in this chat, I suppose they can be done in B&W....
Baby Doll: hehe
<16123769>Garth Grey: does everything have to be hardcore siege style with you ?
Razzputon: ^
<13499221>Luka Melehan: but folks will get distracted
<1117873>Tina Tink: not at all
<14658182>CharGar: this is a time to discuss, work out details, not fight
<5595394>Victim: so you want the pk kiddies to be able to come in and disrupt it ?
Razzputon: ^
<1117873>Tina Tink: but just not in guard zone
<7980842>Nurse Miss Maude: everyone is already distracked Luka LOL
<14658182>CharGar: lets vote?
<9088401>Natalia Marais: most of us want it in a guard zone
<17073527>Razzputon: lets vote on it.
<1117873>Tina Tink: no I want them to join and feel they are a part of it
<14658182>CharGar: governors and representatives vote please
<13499221>Luka Melehan: I certainly am distracted. You know, early onset...hehe
<5595394>Victim: they can be
<16123769>Garth Grey: they can be a part by not acting like asshats
<9088401>Natalia Marais: I vote we need to have meetings in a safe place in a guard zone
<5263969>Baby Doll: Vote?
<1117873>Tina Tink: are there a veto right
<17073527>Razzputon: All in favor of having the meeting in a guard zone say 'aye"
<14658182>CharGar: yes vote
<9088401>Natalia Marais: aye
<6997829>Blind Otto: I vote for a place where we can get specific work done, for the good of the shard. AYE.
<17073527>Razzputon: All in favor of having the meeting in a guard zone say 'aye"
<11063469>Branwyn of Errol: aye!
<1117873>Tina Tink: no
<14658182>CharGar: aye
<15417446>Kenzie Mori: I vote guard zone
dyno: aye
<5595394>Victim: aye
<5263969>Baby Doll: OK I am done here. I will talk on Stratic with you.
<13349139>Bruin: aye
Sarah: aye
Baby Doll: cya guys ty
<16123769>Garth Grey: omg we can't even all vote the same way
<5512560>Delores Duende: aye
<17073527>Razzputon: All in favor of having the meeting in a guard zone say 'aye"
<7980842>Nurse Miss Maude: I vote we need to figure out the why before the where
<1117873>Tina Tink: I'm done too
Then a lot of that kind. Kelmo was total ignored. We may need to make a Dark Council and then have the 2 council interact or we need a veto right. The rest of the meeting was more or less about town zone or not, nothing good in it so I will leave that out. i think that need to be solved on the forums. If we need this to work, the dark side need to take part.
The end of the meeting
<6997829>Blind Otto: ok... so... we seem to have a start. Shall we table this until next time?
<16123769>Garth Grey: valiant effort Kelmo at least you're trying sir.
<13499221>Luka Melehan: so for next time, maybe someone could gather ideas for events and ideas for locations. Plan on voting next time and let that be known
<13349139>Bruin: We have to respect that we will not agree on everything
<1117873>Tina Tink: next time we need a way to let one speak at the time
<13499221>Luka Melehan: so if ya don't show up, ya don't vote
<7211076>Kelmo: We made some progress and have new things to discuss
<6997829>Blind Otto: *nods*
<13349139>Bruin: We have to respect that we have different opinions
<13643986>Tanager: I would like to set up the voting on a Forum. I dont wanna be left out cuz i have RL work
<6997829>Blind Otto: well Kelmo, ye have the hammer... want to whack the table?
<1117873>Tina Tink: agree Bruin
<16123769>Garth Grey: see , this is why you need a King, when the people cant agree lol
<5595394>Victim: *demolishes Table*
<13349139>Bruin: We have to respect that when things don't go our way that the community is bigger than just me
<4197842>Sarah: voting shold be in game
<1117873>Tina Tink: we don't need a King but a co-ordinator
<13499221>Luka Melehan: thanks everyone. Hope I didn't cause any hard feelings. I want this to work.
<13349139>Bruin: And if we want to be a part of it we need to participate
<1117873>Tina Tink: and Kelmo are doing great
<6997829>Blind Otto: indeed
<7980842>Nurse Miss Maude: ok well my part is .....put me down for when a newbie needs a buddy if I'm around I'll hang out
<13643986>Tanager: Maude
<13643986>Tanager: i'm doin NOOB now, kinda picking up where NEW left off
<7980842>Nurse Miss Maude: oh I thought NOOB was a pvp guild
<7980842>Nurse Miss Maude: isn't it
<13643986>Tanager: nope
<13643986>Tanager: so far no allies, i am not sure how to work that
<7211076>Kelmo: *leaves channel*