Yes but maybe not in some of our lifetimes.Do we really believe it's even going to happen at all? Let's here it Allen @Pawain
No.Do we really believe it's even going to happen at all? Let's here it Allen @Pawain
I agree, the earliest you are looking at for a full release is 2024 and frankly, at this point, it's more likely vaporware than anythingIf Alpha testing doesn't start until July then NL might not launch until next year. There was no way it was going to be ready for release last year, even taking into account the 6 months delay for whatever the personal issues one of the team had, it just wasn't ever going to be ready last year. At this point it seems highly unlikely it will even be in Beta testing by the Anniversary in September. I really hope it doesn't go the same way as the Account Management revamp.
The "personal issue" was that Bonnie had to have her arm operated on for something a bit more severe than carpal tunnel based on my understanding. If that's the case, which I have no reason to believe otherwise, then there is zero excuse why NL was pushed back "due to personal reasons" unless she just completely took off for 6 months because as a producer she should just be managing the moving parts which can easily be done via Zoom etc.If Alpha testing doesn't start until July then NL might not launch until next year. There was no way it was going to be ready for release last year, even taking into account the 6 months delay for whatever the personal issues one of the team had, it just wasn't ever going to be ready last year. At this point it seems highly unlikely it will even be in Beta testing by the Anniversary in September. I really hope it doesn't go the same way as the Account Management revamp.
Even if it does come out by September 2023, they missed their window. They built all this hype and had maybe 6-9 months to deliver and they completely whiffed so whatever buzz was there has been long dead for well over a year. I'm not sure what their plan is to "bring UO to the biggest audience ever" is but I can tell you now that they are starting from scratch as far as the current player base that may have been interested at some point in the past 3 years and finally gave up hope on the vaporware.I agree, the earliest you are looking at for a full release is 2024 and frankly, at this point, it's more likely vaporware than anything
It wouldn't surprise me if EA has an expectation of development regarding DAOC and UO with Broadsword. While nobody here knows what the contract is, generally it's something along the lines of EA will lease the IP to Broadsword for X number of dollars in these situations. This dollar value is based on the average players worth (this is why players are the commodity NOT the customer). Then there is an expectation by EA that Broadsword will continue to develop and support UO and DAOC in an effort to take care of "the farm" instead of letting it wither away. Given how little Broadsword ownership cares for UO (this is something that is well-documented) I suspect that NL was a smoke show for a quarterly business meeting to show that caretaking to EA. Now Bonnie gets to use it as the shield for her poor management - "oh sorry gang, no releases on prodo for six months because we're heads down on NL"At this point, even the people that were excited to play NL have given up hope which says quite a bit. If it's released or not I dont really care; I just hope we can get some more focus on PROD so we can stop recycling the same cookie cutter things over and over for 4-6 months at a time.
What you're saying makes sense and actually kind of reminds me, to a lesser extent, of my work where the regional heads like to create these "process improvements" for things they don't really know a ton about so when it actually comes time for rubber to meet the road it falls apart and half the time it's jammed in just to check the box that it was implemented and the other half it falls off the face of the earth because corporate decided there is a new priority.Now Bonnie gets to use it as the shield for her poor management - "oh sorry gang, no releases on prodo for six months because we're heads down on NL"
Hahaha, totally agree. Every newsletter, whatever they say about NL is completely vague. There is absolutely no news about it, since it has been announced.Every time there is a new newsletter about NL I'm astonished at how many words they can use but still say absolutely nothing, I haven't heard anything about the game that wasn't totally vague. Weather and Seasons is not really a selling point for me, I play The Sims and I've never bought an expansion pack for weather/seasons. It will be interesting to see who gets into the Beta testing for this.
She has already outsmarted you and made it so it can not be a flop or fail:I think another key thing is likely Bonnie doesn't really want NL to be released because if/when it's a flop and doesn't bring anywhere near the subscriptions she said/thought that is a traceable metric that wouldn't look good for her.
Not me. It means that bugs persist for years. e.g. "Lord Denthe's Journal gets stuck in your pack" is in a now-defunct Stratics bug forum from 2014, with @Misk replying that he will add it to the list. Here we are nine years later and it's still not fixed.surprised
He is hand drawing every NL snowflake by handNot me. It means that bugs persist for years. e.g. "Lord Denthe's Journal gets stuck in your pack" is in a now-defunct Stratics bug forum from 2014, with @Misk replying that he will add it to the list. Here we are nine years later and it's still not fixed.
More vaporware the current team can not even maintain the current stuff does anyone outside of Pawain honestly believe in NL?@Lore I agree, as always with Mesanna it was announced way too early and with too many promises, now they have yet again wasted all that anticipation and excitement. I still want to know though if you have to transfer off to keep your goodies are they going to allow everyone an extra character slot, because most everyone at this point has probably used all their character allowance on what they consider their 'home' shard. Most likely it will be like the EJ debacle all over again, they just won't have given any thought to practicalities.
I wish they would just put the weather on prodo and call NL done
The M&G is completely worthless. The answer to every question is either some clap back because Messana gets butt hurt over the question and takes it personally, they deflect the question and say they'll look into it, or they just flat say "no". Nothing of substance is ever provided in those things. It's just a method for the Devs to deflect and go "Hey look we're interacting with you guys:"Are M&G still a thing?
I have seen full blown open world games released with Beta AND fixes with just a solo creator...don't drink the Kool-Aid.Given how small the team is now, I'm surprised they have the resources to spend on something like this.
Is this a serious questionIs anyone surprised at this point?
Give her some time please. She is busy decorating that BBQSo... it's currently July which isn't much past the timeframe given for the NL Alpha release but here we are without hearing anything about NL in the past 6 months (ish).
Is anyone surprised at this point?
How about now?? BBQ has been taken downGive her some time please. She is busy decorating that BBQ
Agreed. Being proactive about delays will at least show people the progress compared to what we have now was a 6 month window to release Alpha with no other details and now no communication after the self imposed deadline was missed. People don't know if it's just delayed for a few weeks because of a hiccup or if it's canceled because they stopped working on NL for something else. After so many delays (and nothing to show) with minimal updates of course people are going to be assume NL is vaporware.They aren't making their mid-year Alpha. Now someone doesn't want to face the music, and of course, her cheerleader squad will use this as their rally point to go, "OMG, see, this is why she doesn't give us updates because when she misses them, you guys are mean."
The opposite is the truth; bad news doesn't get better the longer it waits to be discussed. Regular updates showing progress, discussion of current struggles, and demos of completed work are how to prevent significant backlash when something gets delayed.