If a player runs around with a one handed weapon and no shield he has no mods from that shield.
I specified a BUSHIDO dexxer, which would lose all but 5% of Parry if they used a shield. By using Bushido, they get 50% HCI along with all of the other Bushido skills, so no, they wouldn't be losing a thing.
And they also lose access to special moves if they rely on Lightning Strike for HCI. I don't think you PvP if you think using lightning strike is better than using specials. :/
Try kill anyone with an old school archer, most times you will dye trying.
Melee weapons don't have the option to hit at range.
along with all of the other Bushido skills
Exactly, archery actually has more advantages than melee skills. Hits at a range, does more damage (with several bows at least), still pretty fast with a 40 ssi heavy x-bow, and don't say it's slow when your stam is knocked down, thats what balanced and total refresh does, and in addition to that archers rarely get hit by meleers to knock their stamina down. Can also hit while moving, dismount at a range without bolas, etc.
Where are you getting that? How much exactly are you reading on this thread? I don't see anywhere where people are asking for more abilities on archers. Rather, I see people arguing for less abilities and more nerfing.
Try playing an archer. Even if you do have an "ubber" bow, you can't always kill everyone, even mages.
QFTA simple observation.....
If you broke all PvPer's into 3 category's...
1) Mages
2) Dexxers
3) Archers
Which Category would have the most? I'm betting on Archers by a landslide.... people aren't stupid.. Archery offers far more benefits than the up cloes and personal approach..
DONE..
I'm getting that from people saying that archery has been nerfed enough and other complaints that it doesn't have specials like bleed, and that it can't use parry. The people asking for nerfs to archery have it right, it is still overpowered. And if you can't kill anyone given 100+ attempts (since you can run away at any point in time after you take any damage whatsoever and try it again), then I don't know what to tell you... You shouldn't be dying as an archer vs a mage or a dexer, and the RNG will give you your 2 hit kill eventually, regardless of parry or DCI.
As long as Archers are a viable template in PvP people will be calling it overpowered, whether it is or not.
I have always believed it'd be fair if archers needed to have at least 115.0 (preferably 120.0) Archery in order to use a balanced bow. If you think about it, you need to be a very.. very skilled archer to drink potions while shooting a bow.
Um Connor, the defense is the fact that they are already nearly offscreen as it is, and can simply run off screen at ANY point in time, and still do damage to you while they are healing and running away. Running is an archers defense, which is why they should get hit maybe once or twice a minute from a dexer if they are playing correctly. Against mages, they can simply run away as soon as they have to stop to cast a spell, and they can also hit the mage with moving shot and quickly turn the cards around, even while running away. My belief? Archers should move at a slower speed if they have been engaged in combat within the last 10 seconds.
Yeah, and mages can do that too, as well as use a shield. And with their fc/fcr they can cast off those mini heals while running as well. But you don't see people whining about that. And if you got a decent dexer you can easily chase down an archer and kill them. I seriously don't see your point here. I see archers get killed just as often as I see every other class.
In fact the thread is about more skill requirements to promote balance. The posters that have claimed balanced works perfectly have made this an archery bashing thread by refusing to carefully discuss the topic at hand.
Oh, you mean a mage can interrupt an archer from hitting them with an offensive attack?
Well of course you'd say that, you made this thread, lol. Make it a poll so we can be sure that is a true statement and not just a biased speculation. Really, I would like to see an actual poll as opposed to a simple flame thread.
I believe stratics plus is required for poll creation but if someone would make the poll, I would word it tightly.
No, it isn't. I can make polls and I don't have it. Give it a try...unless you really don't want to
That is how the old forums worked... which is no longer the case. The new forums allow anyone to post a poll on forums for which it is activated (that includes the UHall).
My bad
never been in a situation which had you hitting keys in rapid fashion or had more than just chug macros? I doubt you've seen much action if you didnt realize how new you sounded or accustomed to a third party program which makes players not need to think about that...My bad
The ridiculous 3-part chug line you posted just blew my mind.
"Most" people must macro 3 times to chug eh?
Warriors without shields are using 1 key bud. I realize that you may have never been to Felucca but go take a look sometime because MOST warriors are using 1 handed weps and no shield. And the ones that arent most certainly are able to(if you cant figure out how to set a 1 key UOA macro to drop shield and chug you shouldnt be playing btw) Thats the big difference that you just cant comprehend. Archers have no option. All their weapons are 2 handed.
you really see alot of wrestle mages? Looking around 3 shards I found 2 barehanders at champ spawns and they were admittedly older builds that had gone somewhat out of date(except for dueling). Those other mages I saw? Books or weapons.
thieves who haven't rearmed or only chug near towns are 1 key chugging. those of us who rob at champs would be idiots if we were 1 key chuggin.
Nice try though.
Good post, alot of valid points, we lose an arm spot where we could have up to 30 points in hci/dci and another 15 in rpd and resists ontop of that and even fc1. And I never get off 3 hits in a row to 3 hit kill someone, unless they are a nub fresh out of tramsville, if im lucky , I might get a count off of one of these 3 hit kills hehe, Mortal, para, CONK BOOMHEADSHOT!!!!!!!!!
This is QFMFT
When its possible for archers to hit for 50-70 damage every 1.5 seconds(while chugging pots), they dont need parry/one hand weapons
Im putting out pretty good damage, and I have 180 stam. Not many people have weapons or suit better than mine. I have 48 hci and 120 archery, so if I cant hit the mofo, what needs to be changed? cry to devs to make the hci cap higher?
Wait a minute..........Mr my color is white, I serve good and my enemies are colored green black and orange!!! You ROLEPLAY on the UO stratic forums, yet I must be a trammy right?
This is for PvP, not PvM.
I have never seen ANYONE hit for even 50 unless they don't have any armor at all on, even then 50 is still an exaggeration. The only weapon that could even come close to 50 would be the heavy-x, and that puppy is slow slow slow. Slowest weapon in the game.
*sigh* newbs bro
