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With the recent departures of a few key EA/Mythic people, does anyone know who is left to run UO?
False.Mark, Billy Teng, Phoenix, Mesanna, Grimm Omen, Wilki, and Supreem are the ones I can think of.
What's really funny is we call him Billy Teng too.Mark, Billy Teng, Phoenix, Mesanna, Grimm Omen, Wilki, and Supreem are the ones I can think of.
Thanks for answering the question.What's really funny is we call him Billy Teng too.Mark, Billy Teng, Phoenix, Mesanna, Grimm Omen, Wilki, and Supreem are the ones I can think of.
We never call him just Billy.
"What's the difference between Billy Teng and Chuck Norris?"
"Billy Teng is not afraid of Chuck ..."
Thanks Joy-Elf for the sweet new sig ...
If you know better, please correct me. I am just as curious as you.False.Mark, Billy Teng, Phoenix, Mesanna, Grimm Omen, Wilki, and Supreem are the ones I can think of.
Classy sig.Thanks Joy-Elf for the sweet new sig ...
Classy sig.
Much like their subscription numbers, I'm sure it looks better if we think they have a bigger team rather than simply a skeleton crew. In other words, good luck getting a full list from them.Thanks for answering the question.
What the hell.
I trust you cal, it takes alot for me to believe anyone anymore, but you have been honest so far.Gracias .. and yeah it should say Uriah ... but it's my first gift from a player and it's sheer sweetness ... so I'm accepting it.
To answer the question, though .. YES! There are people left on the team. Yes we have a stable of develeopers who you actually know ... and love ... others who contribute behind the scenes as well.
Also, we are actually adding a couple of people to the team in the next month or so ...
AND AND ...
Well for the rest of the stuff you'll just have to wait and see.
I'm not throwing promises by any means, but I'm excited about what we have planned for you guys ... and so is the team
And please stop making me get my post count up ... Air is watching ...
- c
Yeah sorry, Canary ... I don't give out my Powerpoint slides to just anyoneMuch like their subscription numbers, I'm sure it looks better if we think they have a bigger team rather than simply a skeleton crew. In other words, good luck getting a full list from them.
Just a quarter pounder, you have to get a double lol. Instant heart attack.Yeah sorry, Canary ... I don't give out my Powerpoint slides to just anyone
Also, I really enjoy my job and my team so sharing that information at best would be unwise.
I hear what you guys are saying ... and I understand your concern. But for now please know the team is solid, and actually growing and we're paying attention to what you guy are asking about.
Now if you'll excuse me I have dinner waiting ... I had a New Year's resolution and no fast food for three months ...
Ummm no it's not going well ... I really want a Quarter pounder with cheese and a strawberry milkshake (small).
- c
2 Big Macs FTW!I really want a Quarter pounder with cheese and a strawberry milkshake (small).
- c
Don't misdirect, it annoys people who notice.....To answer the question, though .. YES! There are people left on the team. Yes we have a stable of develeopers who you actually know ... and love ... others who contribute behind the scenes as well.
Also, we are actually adding a couple of people to the team in the next month or so ...
In other words, SKELETON CREW.Really, when the question is
"With the recent departures of a few key EA/Mythic people, does anyone know who is left to run UO?"
The answer is NOT
Don't misdirect, it annoys people who notice.....
Add Leurocian?Mark, Billy Teng, Phoenix, Mesanna, Grimm Omen, Wilki, and Supreem are the ones I can think of.
Still with Bioware, AFAIK. I believe Stratics forgot/ did not remove his tag.Add Leurocian?
*Points to the thread Sakkarah started to announce her departure--specifically post #39. http://vboards.stratics.com/showpost.php?p=1614577&postcount=39. Really confused as to where Leurocian is now. *
Yea he's with Bioware.Still with Bioware, AFAIK. I believe Stratics forgot/ did not remove his tag.
tyrant is a scourge not a dev or related to developers just someone using bugs to own property in dead gameOne that people don't know about or speak about is Tyrant.
Nothing more said.
70 = Expert Producer (Happy Community)Gracias .. and yeah it should say Uriah ... but it's my first gift from a player and it's sheer sweetness ... so I'm accepting it.
To answer the question, though .. YES! There are people left on the team. Yes we have a stable of develeopers who you actually know ... and love ... others who contribute behind the scenes as well.
Also, we are actually adding a couple of people to the team in the next month or so ...
AND AND ...
Well for the rest of the stuff you'll just have to wait and see.
I'm not throwing promises by any means, but I'm excited about what we have planned for you guys ... and so is the team
And please stop making me get my post count up ... Air is watching ...
- c
Okay well I want a castle on the mountains, ummm.... A pink GM robe, a tamed multi colored horde minion that I can walk around with. Umm, I want my character to be able to swim (But just me) and Mc Double with Large fries.and we're paying attention to what you guy are asking for....
Translation: Classic shard is coming?Well for the rest of the stuff you'll just have to wait and see.
I'm not throwing promises by any means, but I'm excited about what we have planned for you guys ... and so is the team
Yes he moved to the Great State and resides in Austin with a growing family. Been there since around the time of the last ToT which would make it nearly a three quarters of a year now.Still with Bioware, AFAIK. I believe Stratics forgot/ did not remove his tag.Add Leurocian?
*Points to the thread Sakkarah started to announce her departure--specifically post #39. http://vboards.stratics.com/showpost.php?p=1614577&postcount=39. Really confused as to where Leurocian is now. *
Cal,Yeah sorry, Canary ... I don't give out my Powerpoint slides to just anyone
Also, I really enjoy my job and my team so sharing that information at best would be unwise.
I hear what you guys are saying ... and I understand your concern. But for now please know the team is solid, and actually growing and we're paying attention to what you guy are asking about.
Now if you'll excuse me I have dinner waiting ... I had a New Year's resolution and no fast food for three months ...
Ummm no it's not going well ... I really want a Quarter pounder with cheese and a strawberry milkshake (small).
- c
Error corrected.Still with Bioware, AFAIK. I believe Stratics forgot/ did not remove his tag.
Mark, Billy Teng, Phoenix, Mesanna, Grimm Omen, Wilki, and Supreem are the ones I can think of.
Lower salaries.Whats the point of getting rid of the good people and replacing them with other people? How about keeping the good devs?
New people or recycled DAOC people? We all read the articles about Mythic slashing jobs to conform to EA stockholders wallet size.Also, we are actually adding a couple of people to the team in the next month or so ...
I can't say for sure but I was reading somewhere ( don't think Cal would or can agree or disagree with this) that all EA employees including those at mythic are signed to a contract. (I've seen alot of 2 year employees) and after those two years they either get resigned contracts or booted and replaced. I know with recent budget cuts that could be a reason to, but that really shouldn't affect UO when you look at how much of a cash cow this really is for EA. Just my thoughts, sorry if I offended anyone.New people or recycled DAOC people? We all read the articles about Mythic slashing jobs to conform to EA stockholders wallet size.
Answer us this Cal; Who is replacing Sakarrah? Typically we have seen this position given to someone we are familiar with but with all the cuts and leavings we are less and less familiar with the people we have left. I'm curious to see if you fill the position from outside the current team.
I'm watching you Cal and you have by no means made up for past blunderings. I'm not as quick to forget as many others have when they notice you are actually posting and seeming to pay attention to us. I notice it too but I want more than lip service and assurances of "good things to come." That's not to say you posting and showing interest isn't a positive step, because it surely is. Keeping it up after you get a mouthpiece for us will be the key.
Now we have a month to wait on new team members. What happens in the meantime? Where is our content? I don't mean EM either. I am a fan of the EM program but chasing them around with the 30 professional EM chasers gets old fast. It's a great program, it's just not for me. I want a town invaded or a quest to do. Think Candle of love(favoritest event evuh) or a cleanup something or another. Don't leave us hanging. BTW adding items to existing boss' doesn't really count for content. That is something that should happen on a monthly basis and not something to appease us in the meantime.
We have been fed Magincia rebuild for a long time now. Addressing that would be a good move on your part. Either it's on or not but if we are waiting on mystery devs to come in, learn the system then half ass push it out you may want to reconsider those resources and do something else. There is nothing worse than being told we are getting something only to have it throw in sloppily just to shut people up.
Hmmm I had to think about your post for a minute before I knew if I liked it or not, but I realized you said a lot of what I've been thinking lately.New people or recycled DAOC people? We all read the articles about Mythic slashing jobs to conform to EA stockholders wallet size.
Answer us this Cal; Who is replacing Sakarrah? Typically we have seen this position given to someone we are familiar with but with all the cuts and leavings we are less and less familiar with the people we have left. I'm curious to see if you fill the position from outside the current team.
I'm watching you Cal and you have by no means made up for past blunderings. I'm not as quick to forget as many others have when they notice you are actually posting and seeming to pay attention to us. I notice it too but I want more than lip service and assurances of "good things to come." That's not to say you posting and showing interest isn't a positive step, because it surely is. Keeping it up after you get a mouthpiece for us will be the key.
Now we have a month to wait on new team members. What happens in the meantime? Where is our content? I don't mean EM either. I am a fan of the EM program but chasing them around with the 30 professional EM chasers gets old fast. It's a great program, it's just not for me. I want a town invaded or a quest to do. Think Candle of love(favoritest event evuh) or a cleanup something or another. Don't leave us hanging. BTW adding items to existing boss' doesn't really count for content. That is something that should happen on a monthly basis and not something to appease us in the meantime.
We have been fed Magincia rebuild for a long time now. Addressing that would be a good move on your part. Either it's on or not but if we are waiting on mystery devs to come in, learn the system then half ass push it out you may want to reconsider those resources and do something else. There is nothing worse than being told we are getting something only to have it throw in sloppily just to shut people up.
"Phoenix" was once known as "Vex," and he definitely played regularly, if memory serves from around the T2A era through around pub 16. What he has or hasn't done since I simply don't know. I am also certain that Grimm played as well, though again, it's possible neither has of late, they'd need to respond if deemed appropriate. If anything, these guy's in game experience may actually support some of Cal's comments on relooking a "classic shard." I don't know about the other folks mentioned, but do know Messana, Wilki and Supreme have also been around the dev side for quite a while. I'd be shocked if MrsTroublemaker, another old timer within dev, was not also still on the payroll. Hope that helps a little.Is there any of the Developers currently on UO, who plays regularly the game ?
Its just basic math. Many sources have stated that UO still has a sub base of about 100k accounts. (keep in mind many people have multiple accounts) over half of these accounts are japanese. But if we went conservative and took 50k accounts times $10 per month would equal $500,000 per month. Thats 6 million dollars per year. There is no way costs can exceed that for just UO. If operation costs were more then games that are free to play would not survive. So I believe that most of the money made from UO goes to other projects, which is why they laid a ton of people off. Because the layoffs didn't affect just UO. Also if UO wasn't a cash cow for EA they would have closed it down long ago. Many pay to play games have gone away because they weren't profitable, so if UO wasn't I know it'd be gone.Hmmm I had to think about your post for a minute before I knew if I liked it or not, but I realized you said a lot of what I've been thinking lately.
Terrorknight and those who have said this before him, please explain how you guys think UO is a cash cow for EA/Mythic?
Do you guys really think there are still that many accounts open and/or new accounts are being opened? Without knowing the numbers on subscriptions, I have a hard time believeing that UO really is a cash cow for EA. I just see it as they are already crunched, hence the lay-offs and don't care to lose the extra revenue at the moment.
Yes. Its very hard. Because we don't know all their expenses. (plus like you i'm a see it to believe it type of person) But for me I used to work for some very large free to play games. I can't mention exact companies numbers because I signed contracts but with some they had base players well into the 500k range. Their rev. was way below 6 mil a year and they had to pay designers much more because bigger companies would steal them away. So they had alot of overhead and still made a killing. I do understand the moves that EA has made to lay people off, but I think that is more of a big picture thing. That they are losing money as a company, but not from UO.I see your point for the most part. I guess I'm one of those that has to see it on paper to understand it. Cost vs Revenue tables, etc.
Great question ... I'll try to be thorough.I've been wondering:
Some great people have been leaving the UO Team recently. Obviously, they are being replaced by new people, so it probably isn't just EA laying off personell to reduce cost. I have no idea what the reason behind that policy is.
On the one hand, people who have been with the UO Team for years, know the game like no other and have a lot of experience and knowledge, are leaving (volontarily?).
On the other hand, fresh blood brings new ideas. While a lot of new game features have been fantastic, I still fail to see a really strategic decision about the future of UO. I mean, instead of adding more and more features, solving some of the very old issues might be more rewarding for both the players and the subscription numbers.
It probably is under NDA, but I will ask anyway: What is the strategy about the future of UO? Is there a strategy other than just keeping the game in its status quo?
(P.S.: With "strategy", I don't meen fixing hacking and cheating. That's a matter of course.)
Thats just sad really...Lower salaries.
and Shade and I (along with an additional game designer in the studio) are hashing out the main story arc.
Um, welcome to the business world? With current state of unemployment and people scrambling for jobs you can replace someone for 75% of the cost or less.Thats just sad really...
All right Cal, now you have me worried.I was an English major at USAFA