Wrest Training low level (55)

[Fizzleton]

Hi there -

as a returning player, I try to work my way through "modern" pet training/shaping. Tried to follow the pet train sticky but have a prob with my cu sidhe: He is at 55 wrestling, and when I try to fight shadow eles or the brigand I wont gain in wrest but only in anat/tacs. Maybe those targets are already too high themselves since they raised their wrestling also to 100? Or do I have to do damage to gain in wrestling?

Thx 4 help! Regards, Fizzle

 

[SouthPaw]

Hi there -

as a returning player, I try to work my way through "modern" pet training/shaping. Tried to follow the pet train sticky but have a prob with my cu sidhe: He is at 55 wrestling, and when I try to fight shadow eles or the brigand I wont gain in wrest but only in anat/tacs. Maybe those targets are already too high themselves since they raised their wrestling also to 100? Or do I have to do damage to gain in wrestling?

Thx 4 help! Regards, Fizzle

Your pet needs to be within about 20 skill of what it's fighting to gain. So if your cu is about 55 wrestling and shadow ele is over 75 your cu won't gain. Recommend you try fighting lizardmen or ratmen until your cu gets to around 70 wrestling, then try shadow ore ele again. You could take him to the sleeping dragon spawn and your cu's wrestling will be higher in no time.

 

[Pawain]

The shadow eles start at different levels of wrestling and tactics.

These examples are not exact. They start at:

Wres 90 tact 60
Wrest 60 tact 90
Wrest 60 tact 60
Wrest 90 tact 90

I take an archer and kill one until the skills match my pet.

 

[Fizzleton]

Thx! Helped a lot...

 

[Basara]

Have you tried the orcs in the small forts in Malas?

There's typically only up to 4 at a time in the forts, one leader, 1 mage, 1 regular, 1 captain (the one that can have the stout whip for that one quest). Generally, the mage and at least one other of the orcs should be low level enough in wrestling to get gains, and you can get gains in other things as well (such as resist)

 

[Keith of Sonoma]

You might try the 1st level of shame. The elementals and mud pies get me to 70+-, after which I head to the trogs!

 

[SouthPaw]

I've used Shame level 1 also for pets with 50-75 wrestling. You can just walk on the path around the edge of the map in a large circle for continuous spawn. Plus get a nice amount of gold while your pet trains.

 

[Xare]

Gregorio

 

[SouthPaw]

Gregorio only works until around 55 wrestling/tactics.

 

[Khaelor]

Gregorio only works until around 55 wrestling/tactics.

I regularly use Gregario all the way up to just under 100 wrestling with a bard, around 65-70ish without.

 

[SouthPaw]

I regularly use Gregario all the way up to just under 100 wrestling with a bard, around 65-70ish without.

Really? I'll have to try him again. In the past he always seemed to slow way down once pet got to around 55. Maybe he gains skill as people train on him like the shadow ele does. Unfortunately we can't use lore on him to check his skill levels.

 

[Mordha]

I use Gregorio to get pets to 75 to 80 in wrestling and tactics. Then switch to a shadow elemental, which, with the right one, can take you all the way to 120.
Shadow elemental that are 100 in wrestling and 100 tactics, can be used as low as 75. 25 is the maximum difference between your pet and whatever you’re using for wrestling and tactics gains. I have tried this with many pets, so I know the 25 point range is correct.

 

[Khyro]

Really? I'll have to try him again. In the past he always seemed to slow way down once pet got to around 55. Maybe he gains skill as people train on him like the shadow ele does. Unfortunately we can't use lore on him to check his skill levels.

You will need the assistance of a friendly bard. If you have a low skill pet, put it on Gregorio until it caps out, then discord your pet and let it gain up until it caps again. Once you drop discord, your pet is often around 90+ in skills. It's also worth noting that Gregorio can (and will) gain his own skills as he is fighting a lower pet. We actually ran into an issue once where we rotated pets for so long on Gregorio that he had raised his Wrestling/Tactics high enough that low pets weren't gaining on him anymore~

 

[Rhafiki]

Things you can use animal lore on seem the best to train pets on for me. You can lore them and see what their skill is and compare.

 

[Xare]

55 is enough to train on a shadow iron elemental up to 75 skill. Why complicate this?

 

[Pawain]

55 is enough to train on a shadow iron elemental up to 75 skill. Why complicate this?

Slimes and slugs take wrestling and parry from 40 to 120. Less complicated.

 

[SouthPaw]

Slimes and slugs take wrestling and parry from 40 to 120. Less complicated.

I've used those before too, only problem is they have low tactics skill.

 

[Pawain]

I do not know it but there is some trick to getting the tactics to go up. Maybe the wrestling has to start lower than tactics. But I have taken many pets there and the tactics goes to 100. And many do not so I head for a Shadow ele.

 

[SouthPaw]

Most of the slugs I've lored have 50 tactics and 80 wrestling.

In my experience they work great for raising wrestling and parry.

 

[Pawain]

Spend enough hours there and they gain. If you want fast gains use a shadow ele.