Would 35 DCI be enough for a sampire?

[Ender]

I'm thinking yes, especially with HLA. Asking because if/when I get my Assassin set, I'm thinking about running that for some insane speed on an ornate axe.

 

[guum]

I'm thinking yes, especially with HLA. Asking because if/when I get my Assassin set, I'm thinking about running that for some insane speed on an ornate axe.

I think 35 DCI is ok...I'd be more worried about resistances. Is it possible to get to all 70s in vamp form with the assassin set without devoting your jewelry just to resistances?

 

[Ender]

Less than 70 cold, but all 65s+ with only 2 properties on jewelry devoted to resists. It's fine.

 

[NickyDishes]

connor uses assassin armor and i was wondring same thing....i have a set but i use on my stealth archer for pvp....if it's possible to get resists to max i would use it in a second....but where do u get the dci from?....connor where r u on this?

 

[Heimi]

Its possible to get 45 DCI using the Assassin Armour set - use the Aegis of Grace for 20 DCI, Quiver of Infinity for 5 then get the other 20 on your jewels. Also for your resists you just need a really nice mempo and preferably some on your jewels too 40 DI between your two jewels (along with a 20 DI tali and 40+ on weapon) and you have a very workable sampire suit.

 

[Ender]

I'd rather use Jackals and Mace and Shields for HLD and insane dex.

 

[Ender]

Ok, I set this up on Test a bit ago. Full set, Mace and Shields, Jackal's Collar with Vampiric Embrace and Magic Reflection. If I imbue jewelry with 15 DCI and 20 DI on each, and then 15 fire on one and 15 energy on the other it will work just fine. Then I don't know what else to add onto the jewelry. Maybe just dex and strength (one on each) and 10 HCI?

Not like this matters, I don't have either rare
piece yet.

 

[Chaosy]

I have a friend who plays a sampire with 0 dci since he likes to use counter-attack. His setup seems to work pretty good as well, so 35 DCI is plenty IMO.

 

[Connor_Graham]

connor uses assassin armor and i was wondring same thing....i have a set but i use on my stealth archer for pvp....if it's possible to get resists to max i would use it in a second....but where do u get the dci from?....connor where r u on this?

I've got 35 DCI from ring/brace, quiver, and cloak of death. Once I get around to imbuing some jewels for Connor that number will go up to 38. I really don't have any problems with just the 34 though. I get hit a little more often, but it takes a crapload of damage to drop my swing speed on anything but the ornate axe, so it more than makes up for the difference.

 

[guum]

A thought crossed my mind (doesn't happen often), so I decided to try out some numbers.

Currently, using all imbued armor, my sampire is at 186 stamina, all 70s, etc. Thought about doing assassin armor per this thread. I figure if I supplement assassin armor with all imbued armor, I can get to 177 stamina (125 + 20 from set + 32 from 2 jewels and 2 other armor pieces).

The imbued ornate I'm using now has 25% SSI. Before long I'll probably step up to a 30% SSI ornate, but I've been too lazy to farm the essences so far. Assuming the stratics calculator is correct, at 25% SSI, I can go all the way down to 160 stamina from hits before my swing speed drops from maximum. That's a net loss of 26 stamina. By comparison, with my hypothetical assassin-based suit at 45% SSI and 177 stam, I can drop to 120 stam before swing speed falloff, a net loss of 57 stamina. That's not using jackal's collar (I like being medable in case I get in a tight corner).

My thought (wrong apparently) was that the amount of stamina which would have to be sacrificed for assassin's armor versus an imbued suit would counteract to a degree the swing speed bonus of the set. Seems that's not the case. Just thought I'd share in case anyone else wanted to see the numbers.

 

[Connor_Graham]

I can get to 177 stamina (125 + 20 from set + 32 from 2 jewels and 2 other armor pieces)..

You don't get 20 stamina from the Assassin set. You get a total of 8 stamina but you also get 20 SSI, which is what I think you're thinking of.

 

[guum]

You don't get 20 stamina from the Assassin set. You get a total of 8 stamina but you also get 20 SSI, which is what I think you're thinking of.

uoguide says you get 8 stamina and 12 dex. should be 20 stam total, right? i don't have the set, so i don't know.

 

[Connor_Graham]

uoguide says you get 8 stamina and 12 dex. should be 20 stam total, right? i don't have the set, so i don't know.

The Dex only counts as long as you're under 150. Anything above 150 wouldn't count.

 

[TheLetterQ]

Also, SSI caps at 50 I think....you get no benifit for having more than 50SSI. At some point they said they'd be fixing the soul seeker.

Q

 

[Connor_Graham]

Also, SSI caps at 50 I think....you get no benifit for having more than 50SSI. At some point they said they'd be fixing the soul seeker.

Q

60 SSI is the cap.

 

[Black Majick]

The Dex only counts as long as you're under 150. Anything above 150 wouldn't count.

As long as you are under 150 dex it would. He says base of 125 stam (assuming is dex). You could get 16 from jewelry and then 9 of that from armor would be able too be used. To get full use could drop down dex too 122. That would get you too 150 dex. Then armor stacks on top of that. So could in theory be getting full effect of the armor there.

Guess you said something similar too what I did. I just elaborated on how he could get full effect of the armor.

 

[Ender]

Or you could just stack a ton of dex to overcap it so that you still have max heal speed even if you get cursed and special cursed by Dread Horn or something.