what skills to increase with +skill on items

[Max Blackoak]

Some thoughts about +skill items for sampire types:

To get the most out of melee masteries I would want to go for 120 real skill in weapon skill and tactics.

To get the full reduction to special moves mana cost I would want 120 bushido and 60 parry along with that.

To not pop out of vamp form 99 real skill necro is needed which leaves me with the following template:

120 melee, tactics, bushido, 100 necro and 60 parry. Which leaves 200 points for chivalry and resist (or anatomy).


Now here comes my question:

will there be a difference between getting 120 chivalry from real skill or from items?

what about resist? is there a difference between 120 real skill or 120 from items?

 

[kaio]

It really depends on what you wanna hunt with your'e sampire.
Masteries depends on real skill, the rest not so much, except special moves, they require real skill AFAIK.

 

[Kylie Kinslayer]

It really depends on what you wanna hunt with your'e sampire.
Masteries depends on real skill, the rest not so much, except special moves, they require real skill AFAIK.

Only thing I would add is the Chiv spells are scaled time wise based on real Chiv level. They dropped the time being scaled off Karma a good while back.

 

[Max Blackoak]

Only thing I would add is the Chiv spells are scaled time wise based on real Chiv level. They dropped the time being scaled off Karma a good while back.

exactly the kind of answer I was looking for.

any thoughts about resist 120 real vs. 120 by items?

 

[Kylie Kinslayer]

exactly the kind of answer I was looking for.

any thoughts about resist 120 real vs. 120 by items?

Only time I run resist is when I am running a high magic spawn and even then it is really rare. I just use a trapped box to break para. Never really noticed much of a difference in 120 versus 100 in PvM.

 

[Max Blackoak]

I also usually use anatomy and with that skill I know it doesn't matter if it's real skill or not. Since I switch anatomy out for resist when needed it would be nice to know if the same applies there...

 

[Kylie Kinslayer]

Have never ran across anything on resist spells that says/shows jewel skill is not the same as real skill. Guess an easy way to test it for sure would be to grab a near GM resist char, get naked and see what your damage resists are (should be 0)... then put on just enough +skill jewels to reach GM and see what your damage resists are (should be 40 if it's working) then put on enough +skill to hit 120 resist... and again check your damage resists, it should be 45 or something like that...

 

[SwordofExcalibur]

The only time I've read or heard that Resisting Spells was useful were vs Dark Fathers.

Otherwise, I ran 120 Resisting Spells and found it didn't do much for me. I ran it during the Halloween campaign and I ended up having to erase debuffs with apples and Remove Curse anyway. Especially vs undead and Pain Spike/Blood Oath. I erase those immediately. Taken quite a few dirt naps over those.

I still use trapped boxes for Paralyze in the off chance I'm para and getting whiffed at fur 4+ seconds.

 

[Max Blackoak]

Now here comes my question:

will there be a difference between getting 120 chivalry from real skill or from items?

what about resist? is there a difference between 120 real skill or 120 from items?

This is the actual question - just as a reminder since there seems to be a misunderstanding here.

I know when to put on resist and also run anatomy instead most of the time.

I was interested whether resist and anatomy are working the same way, i. e. does resist work the same with +skill items or does having 120 realskill resist have any advantages I don't know about?