What might "Endless Journey" mean for Siege?

[Uvtha]

Seems like this change will have some noticeable impact on the shard, since we all will basically have unlimited in number but limited in ability characters, for good or ill I don't know.

Off the top of my head things you could do with these accounts:

Crafting mule, sans bods: Gm Tinkering, Scribe, Alch, Cooking, Carp, Bowyer, magery. This is probably the biggest impact.

Thief: You could be a perfectly functional thief with the EJ restrictions. GM Snoop, Steal, Hide, Stealth, + 3 skills of choice, like say wrestling for defense, ninja for animal form, magery for travel. Crate stealing might take a bit longer, but hey...

T-Hunter mule: Gm Carto, LP, mining, detect, remove trap. Dig up, unlock/untrap the box, run off, let the real account deal with the spawn/looting.

Plus more limited one use purpose characters like:

Spell weaving focus team.

Halloween Beggar.

Tracker/Detector. (Maybe?)

Thoughts? Good thing? Bad thing?

 

[Victim of Siege]

it'll probably bring back about the same amount of people, for the same amount of time as RTB does. then they'll realize they have better things to do and move on. might get a few but they'll need to fix a lot of things to truly help the game repopulate.

 

[Uvtha]

it'll probably bring back about the same amount of people, for the same amount of time as RTB does. then they'll realize they have better things to do and move on. might get a few but they'll need to fix a lot of things to truly help the game repopulate.

I'm sure this is a move to get new people more than it is to get old people back. Nothing has changed for people who left already, really.

 

[Victim of Siege]

i was lumping returning and new together essentially. it likely won't help the population to grow, just give those here something new to work with.

 

[Tanager]

Well, NOOB is stocking up just in case some older folks decide to take a stroll down memory lane. If they find the game and community engaging, they might even stay a while or pop in to visit now and then. There are some folks who chose to close accounts because RL left them without enough time to spend on the game to justify a monthly subscription in their budget. Others might give UO a try for the first time without the 'pressure' some feel with a short free trial period. I have been waiting for this, and I am happy!

No fee? Just run around chatting and killing things and players, decoing (some one else's house), crafting, RPing, whenever time or mood permits? It's severely restricted (as it should be imo) but I can already envision 10 F2P accounts scripting away in a mine, so I imagine there will be some kinks that need ironing out. Still, there is a lot for a creative mind to work with. I think it's possible we might see some more names. I hope so anyway

 

[Spiffykeen]

I wonder if Eternal Journey folks will be allowed to be co-owned or even friended to houses for that matter

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[TheDrAJ]

I wonder what new items they will be selling these people in the UO store? Free to play games have to get their revenue from somewhere.

 

[Drakelord]

I am so lost what are we chatting about here?

 

[Uvtha]

I wonder if Eternal Journey folks will be allowed to be co-owned or even friended to houses for that matter

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Nope. Trial Accounts – Ultima Online

Outside of allowing them to do spaws I heard talked about I'd imagine most of that sticks.

 

[Uvtha]

I am so lost what are we chatting about here?

Pub 99 has a f2p option. Finally.

 

[Rizarium]

An evil wind comes, I have never seen free to play improve the player base.

 

[Map]

Can anyone link to the announcement of this EJ stuff?

 

[Tanager]

Endless Journey (among other things) was announced yesterday at the 20th anni party. I assume more official news is on the way.

UO isn't going free to play, or pay to win. Everyone who continues to pay the same price they have always paid will continue to get the same services. You can look at it as an unlimited trial period in terms of length of time, but with lots of restrictions until/unless you subscribe. For one thing an account has to wait 90 days after it's subscription is cancelled before it is even eligible, and then it becomes subject to various free trial and RTB rules. I think the dev team is aware that there are ways that people can exploit this, but probably not much more so than people already do with the 2 week free trial system and/or the current housing decay system.

For better or for worse, F2P is popular with the current generation, and imo UO would be wise to adapt or face the same fate as dinosaurs. The store items are mostly decorative or convenience items - you do not need any of it to 'win' UO. I'm sure there will be hiccups along the way, but I think this added access option is good for the survival of UO. Overall this will give the subscribers more players to interact with (and kill). And if it doesn't work out, well then we just go back to the old way. But then that's just my two cents.

 

[Uvtha]

The store items are mostly decorative or convenience items

Though many of them are deco items you would have no interest in unless you were subbing.

 

[Uvtha]

An evil wind comes, I have never seen free to play improve the player base.

Honestly outside of siege, I don't see it having much possible negative effect. How much positive I don't know, but trial accounts really can't do anything disruptive.

I support the idea, but I do wonder how it will effect this shard.

 

[Tyrath]

Perhaps best to make Siege and Mungen(SP) not available to EJ and treat them as young accounts in that regard.

 

[Tanager]

I don't think it can hurt Siege. If nothing else, there'd just be more scripters for the vigilantes to hunt down, and more PvP for those who want it. No spam, no trash talk - unless you count help channel. And if they are allowed to use GC, well there's always that new ban thing they're implementing. Honestly, I am more concerned about THAT being abused on Siege lol. Chat PvP to the next level

 

[Uvtha]

I don't think it can hurt Siege. If nothing else, there'd just be more scripters for the vigilantes to hunt down, and more PvP for those who want it. No spam, no trash talk - unless you count help channel. And if they are allowed to use GC, well there's always that new ban thing they're implementing. Honestly, I am more concerned about THAT being abused on Siege lol. Chat PvP to the next level

I doubt EJ characters will be much good for scripting or pvp, since they can't get non basic resources or have skills over 100. I DO want them here though, for sure, because we need new players just like any other shard.

 

[GarthGrey]

I didn't read it all but isn't there something about an auctioning off of items left by EJ players or some nonsense ? Announcing that early shows no confidence in the programs ability to keep new players.

 

[Tanager]

The entire IDOC system appears the same way, if one chooses to look at it that way.

If you do not keep your account in good standing, your house falls. If you do not pay your vendor fees, your vendor falls. If you do not keep your NM stall set to outbid others, your stuff goes to the city crate and then poofs if you don't bother to keep track of it on a fairly regular basis. If you forget to lock something down in your house - poof. If you fall in battle and do not make it back to your corpse in time to recover your gear or supplies - poof.

It's a bit harsh, the Ultima Online system, but as time goes on rares tend to get rarer and the economy does not stall entirely because people do sometimes need to replace things for one reason or another. If I understand the shared bank thing, it's for characters on the same account to use interchangeably for a small fee. In game gold or RL, I do not know. If that fee is not renewed, the bank puts your stuff up for auction.

No one is forcing anyone to pay that fee or use that service or risk the consequences of failing to meet their financial obligations.