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what is most un-populated shard?

Bob_the_fart_guy

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... I'm not sure how to find this out on my own... I'm sure some number cruncher out there knows the answer.


I kinda figure since I have characters on every shard that one of them has a better chance of placing a castle if its a lesser populated shard.

So, just wondering... what is most un-populated shard?
 

GarthGrey

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You're not sure how to find this out on your own? Seriously?
 
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The_Traveler

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I would guess Lake Austin as it was the last shard to go live to the best of my knowledge. It was a test center shard.
 

GarthGrey

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NONONO, LA is wayyyy too populated already, please don't come here. :gun::gun:
 

Theo_GL

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Arirang. You can probably place a castle or buy for a few mil.

There aren't more than 100 people on that shard.
 

Viper09

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What about Oceania? I've heard from many that it is one of the lowest populated ones.

But keep in mind, a shards have their own prime-time.
 
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five oclock

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Almost all the shards..BUT atl...Then again for the right price ya can find a castle...

Theres tons of open land..Just make a player on ever shard...walk around with newbie clothes..and check it out..

FYI...Fel is ALOT more empty than tram tho...Just saying :D
 

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Keep an eye on Siege... I expect a population expolsion soon. Just saying.
 

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Test Center, except when all other server are down.
 
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Oceania is quite a bit busier than most seem to think.

It seems small to people in America and Europe due to the time zone (Sydney, Australia) being way out of sync with the West, but it actually covers quite a bit of ground between the other predominantly English-speaking servers.

From what I can tell it's much bigger than the Koreans and Drachenfels, and a little bigger than two of the North Americans. Also it seems to come alive in waves rather than one big prime-time clump, which is likely different timezones coming online in succession.

This is all my own observation. If anyone has official stats I'd like to hear them.
 
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Tazar

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I am not sure - but I think Legends might be a candidate as well. That shard had a more limited foundation to build on because it was only available to AOL users for a long time.
 
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Yen Sid

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The shards can be organized by population once you log in...
 
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Kratos Aurion

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Placing a castle on any shard is fairly difficult, regardless of the population. Legends would be my best guess as to being the least populated American shard. There aren't any statistics that actually demonstrate shard population, otherwise there would be an accurate statistic of active user accounts somewhere which would be nice.

Legends offers a great market though for purchasing homes. When I played Legends before moving to GL, castles were fairly cheap, usually ranging between 50-100m depending on facet and location.

Good luck in your placement quest :)
 
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Dain

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Placing a castle on any shard is fairly difficult, regardless of the population. Legends would be my best guess as to being the least populated American shard. There aren't any statistics that actually demonstrate shard population, otherwise there would be an accurate statistic of active user accounts somewhere which would be nice.

Legends offers a great market though for purchasing homes. When I played Legends before moving to GL, castles were fairly cheap, usually ranging between 50-100m depending on facet and location.

Good luck in your placement quest :)
You can't give away a Castle on Oceania.


There's an empty castle place right infront of my house atm actually.
 

twoburntfouryou

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I would have to agree with those above Legends. I know someone in the last month or so that just got 2 castles there for free or very cheap
 

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Legends... when I was there you could place and 18x18 pretty much anywhere... there were vast open expanses of land in Malas.... you could find places in Fel and Tram...

As for Castles not sure but anything else had wide open country.
 

Lady Storm

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Well seeing that I have homes on many shards I think I can answer this....

Origin's population is not Bank sitters, we tend to be active and yes virginia we have a good amount of people still.
Oceania - To be frank if you go on during normal USA hours you might find 1 or 3 people, this includes me int hat #, but if you go on at server time Sidney then the locals come out.
This goes for any Asia shard. They are just getting up when we are going to bed.
Lake Austin - Has a working population, few luna sitters but is not too bad. This is also the case for Baja, Sonoma, Catskills.
Chessy - this shard fluxs in populaion showing up, once the darling of the East coast group has its moments of dead air. IE: few in luna but I can say I run into alot of people out doing things. But far from empty!
GL & LS - same as most of the median population shards, But one must remember again not all sit in Luna some do sit in Brit bank still.
Siege - sorry Kemo, the population of this shard is on its last legs. I own 3 homes there and love it but..... there is not a working population like we had before the Ea gang decided to change to the 1 house per account ruleset. Im sorry you need a house ..even a small cracker box to run to. I have watched the shard go from friendly pvping to mass all out kill kill kill andbe damned, its only saving grace was the players set up a newbie guild so a new player could get use to the pace of the reds. I love Siege to death but I have to be honest it was wrong to insist it was made for pvp/pkers. It was for testing a veteran players metal to build up in the hard world of Siege Perilous. We had guilds and wars and friends, oh the occasional red would kill you but not like it was the last few years.
Europa and Drac - Again the hours of the population is in europe and time zoneing is the key to finding people on shard As Petra can atest to.
Of the Asian shards Balhea is bad, I use to own 3 castles there was a good shard dont know what happened but its not the same anymore. Hokuto and many other Asian shards are super busy! You can barely squeeze even in fel a small house!
Atlantic - Well there is things to be said for and against this shard, it does have the master population skimmed off every shard out there. Kemo if you want to know where your people went its here. I still see books recruting from all the shards to go there for the best pvp. I can even tell you a great many on there owned castles on Origin and transfered back and forth to Atl most have stoped and just moved there perma. On Origin they would do champs and make gold to support the moves for the pvp on Atl.
Legends - has lost a great deal of its population but I deleted 99.9 % of my chars to the shard so not much on up to the minute population #'s but From players I know on Catskills who also have on this shard say its bad.
In the long run I think its best to say there are many shards suffering from low attendance and could use an influx of players.

My son came up with a idea of how to cut back on shards if it need be done. I have to admit its a good one.
His proposal is stop all char production, house placement, give a tolken of house replacement(this would give you free placement of a house of equil or lesser size on the shard of your choice in malas, tokuno, tram or fel
Note: the Malas placement of Castles an Keeps would be allowed by the tolkens only
Each char would be given a transfer tolken to use set to their name only, this way it would be not sellable if not used static to that char only.
Grandfathered account home owners would be granted the ability to move placing that account in temp state of house placement for the period of 1 week after the shard has disapeared from the log in. This would allow them to place just the same amount of houses they had on that shard only, no aditional house other then the same as were being lost. A special moving crate to pack up to the full limit of their house, bank, and animals.

its an idea. But I would hope we never get to that point.... Id need a char menu super long. 7 char slots would not be enough for my crew!!!
 
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The_Traveler

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So much has changed over the years. It's mind blowing.
 
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Kratos Aurion

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You can't give away a Castle on Oceania.


There's an empty castle place right infront of my house atm actually.
Ouch. That's really sad to hear. It really sucks because with the condition of the game and in my opinion the price of the game, EA is really starving players out of Ultima. I had a discussion topic on subscription fees throwing around that debate. I haven't played Legends though in well over 2 or 3 years, which at that time period, castles were almost a given. Today, they probably are.:sad4:
 

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ive roamed the land here the last few years.

from my personal play LA was the least populated north american shard (excluding siege, i dont count siege as its different)

but saying that, some guilds come and go on LA cause they think they can take over and rule the champs.

so LA seems to be the "come over and visit" shard here this last year.

as for the HK shards, Arirang is by far the deadest.
and its the funniest.
cause people UM right at the luna bank.
its kinda strange.

as for the Euro's i cant say as i only have played on Europa, and done only a little on Oceana and Drachs.
but Oceana looks to be a little quieter then the other 2.

but also like mentioned above, each shard has its own prime time.
ive logged on to some shards at the oddest hours and have seen luna PACKED tighter then ATL.
 

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I have toons on Oceania and I live in the US. Its active you just have to be on thier peak times depending on your time. I played for a couple years there and it was a blast. Good pvp.
 

Queen Aglaranna

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Oceania has a pretty decent population. There may be heaps of room for placing 18x18's - especially around Malas, but a castle plot??? Not bloody likely ;p
 

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... I'm not sure how to find this out on my own... I'm sure some number cruncher out there knows the answer.


I kinda figure since I have characters on every shard that one of them has a better chance of placing a castle if its a lesser populated shard.

So, just wondering... what is most un-populated shard?

oceanina and one of the asain shard are tired kinda
 
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StaticOnAtlantic

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Heres the list 100% official

Oceania (Last place)
Mugen
Arirang
Drachenfels
Hokuto
Formosa
Izumo
Mizuho
Yamato
Asuka
Sakura
Balhae
Wakoku
Siege
Origin
Sonoma
Lake Austin
Napa Valley
Catskills
Europa
Legends
Baja
Sonoma
Pacific
Lake Superior
Chesapeake
Great Lakes
Atlantic (Being #1)
 

Miss Smoocher

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been playing Atlantic for the past 4 years just got myself a home on Legends. Atlantic is so full at times i cant breath.
4 accounts and 3 houses on Atlantic 3 18 side by sides seems like alot but i'm thinking i love my new luna house on
Legends more. people on my new shard seem really nice not like some of the kiddies that can be on Atlantic.
never leaving Atlantic tho. :gee:
 
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Fink

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Heres the list 100% official

Oceania (Last place)
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Atlantic (Being #1)
What time of day did you get these numbers?

I've seen Oceania more populated than Atlantic at particular times, which is great considering the number of bots people claim are on Atl around the clock.
 

Black Sun

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Heres the list 100% official

Oceania (Last place)
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Atlantic (Being #1)
Fire your official source.


There's no 100% accurate way to gauge this using the client's population sort on the shard selection screen. The only ones who know the actual numbers are EA and they're pretty tight lipped when it comes to UO's subscriber numbers.

I'm not sure who made the suggestion, but make a character on each shard and walk around for a bit. That should give you an idea of how busy the shard is and if it would suit your tastes.
 
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Trevelyan

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Heres the list 100% official

Oceania (Last place)
Mugen
Arirang
Drachenfels
Hokuto
Formosa
Izumo
Mizuho
Yamato
Asuka
Sakura
Balhae
Wakoku
Siege
Origin
Sonoma
Lake Austin
Napa Valley
Catskills
Europa
Legends
Baja
Sonoma
Pacific
Lake Superior
Chesapeake
Great Lakes
Atlantic (Being #1)
Siege being more populated than Japanese shards? Legends more populated than Europa? What next, porcine aviation?
 
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StaticOnAtlantic

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dont shoot the messenger, im just using classic client % full option. relax folks, Also it was 5pm WST
 

Frarc

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Don't look at the Population from the client when European people are asleep and then tell its empty. :p
 
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StaticOnAtlantic

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Well tell me how the heck can I accurate account then for US clients? Europa would be off the charts, then. Well I think what we have learned from this is that this is an unsolvable solution and we need to have a census.
 

Black Sun

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Well tell me how the heck can I accurate account then for US clients?
You can't get an accurate answer using the client's sorting option because of the different time zones and the difference in each shard's peak play times.
 

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You can't get an accurate answer using the client's sorting option because of the different time zones and the difference in each shard's peak play times.
Wouldn’t be completely accurate but you could log in at intervals, say every hour on the hour for an entire week. Take down the order of each shard based on its population then average it out overall. For example if Atlantic had the most times being the bottom one in the list more than any other then it would be the most populated shard.

Also keep in mind shard populations vary significantly during the year – more high school, college and university students play during the summer when they are off, myself and a lot of other players tend to play more during the winter when the weathers bad.
 

Lady Storm

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Heres the list 100% official

Oceania (Last place)
Mugen
Arirang
Drachenfels
Hokuto
Formosa
Izumo
Mizuho
Yamato
Asuka
Sakura
Balhae
Wakoku
Siege
Origin
Sonoma
Lake Austin
Napa Valley
Catskills
Europa
Legends
Baja
Sonoma
Pacific
Lake Superior
Chesapeake
Great Lakes
Atlantic (Being #1)
Siege being more populated than Japanese shards? Legends more populated than Europa? What next, porcine aviation?
OOOO I love it ....Porcine Aviation!!!!! He certinly has that covered!!!

StaticOnAtlantic sugar each shard has a average time they are on 5 pm anywhere means the other half are sound asleep or just waking up for work! I can atest there are nights you need a reservation on oceania to get in the bank!

As for Siege ... it has players but not to the point your showing.... I play there too

Hokuto omg its the most stuffed shard in the japaneese end! and you have it so low on the totumpole.. yes I play there too. So where ever you got your #s your off big time.

Someone said Origin was dead .... by the Event we had last night and the players who attended id say someone best rethink who is dead.
 

Black Sun

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Wouldn’t be completely accurate but you could log in at intervals, say every hour on the hour for an entire week.
I pity the person who has that kind of time on their hands.
 

Bob_the_fart_guy

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Fire your official source.


There's no 100% accurate way to gauge this using the client's population sort on the shard selection screen. The only ones who know the actual numbers are EA and they're pretty tight lipped when it comes to UO's subscriber numbers.

I'm not sure who made the suggestion, but make a character on each shard and walk around for a bit. That should give you an idea of how busy the shard is and if it would suit your tastes.


I do actually have at lease one or more character on every shard already. *waves to Black Sun* Wasn't sure if there was a way to more acuratly tell if one shard was the least populated though. I have to disagree on most of the comments on Mugen though. That would have to be my third favorite shard to play on. Most players do speak Japanese but can also speak English, or at least enough to understand what I'm saying. And there seem to be lots of players when I'm on. I encourage someone to give it a shot, I think you'd like it.

So far though, going from the feedback from this thread, Ocenia seems to have the vote for fewest players. (didn't actually count every single vote, but I saw that one a lot). If you want to count through all the posts let me know if the vote is indeed Ocenia though. Thanks everyone. ^.^
 

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Drachenfels

BTW - love "porcine aviation" it's a definite keeper ;)
 

Black Sun

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I read rather quickly, because of that I often mistake words for other words that look similar and have to go back and make myself slow down.

Because of that, when I first saw porcine aviation, I read it as porcupine aviation.
 
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