WBB redesign tram/fel?

[Sneaky Que]

Should the new West Brit Bank designs be applied to one, or both facets? In my view it should only be changed in Tram, and Fel should remain as is.

Please note this is not a design bashing thread, they are great and I am looking forward to seeing them in game, however since we have two WBB's I see no good reason why both of them need to be changed.

Thoughts?

 

[Sweeney]

Have a poll.

 

[Sneaky Que]

Have a poll.

Way ahead of you Vote away!

 

[Sweeney]

haha I knew it.

 

[Tina Small]

Apply to Tram only. It might be interesting to have another contest for the bank in Fel and see if the designs turn out drastically different. I suspect they would be. I know if I did a design, I'd be thinking about stuff like thieves, murderers, faction fights, faction vendors, faction guards, faction traps, push-through...

 

[Dermott of LS]

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Doesn't really matter to me although I do believe that it will be more appreciated in Tram facets than in Fel just based on the differences in playstyle of the facets.

 

[Sneaky Que]

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Doesn't really matter to me although I do believe that it will be more appreciated in Tram facets than in Fel just based on the differences in playstyle of the facets.

The main reason I have for voting 'Tram only' is nostalgia. WBB has been the way it is since the start of the game, it has so much history and memories tied to it. I just think it would be kind of sad to see that disappear. Redesigning it in Fel may also have an impact on PvP and Factions (depending on the design).

 

[Dermott of LS]

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Redesigning it in Fel may also have an impact on PvP and Factions (depending on the design).

That I believe would be the biggest factor.

 

[Gwendolynne]

It seems like someone is determined to destroy or change all familiar landmarks in the game. This contest would have been a great idea for New Haven. There was plenty of unused landmass in Haven to add New Haven without destroying old Haven - it was a great city and I miss it. A few of the entries for the WBB contest almost looked like they were trying to recreate the feel of old Haven.

Magencia - more destruction that could utilize a rebuilding contest since it is already in ruins. Perhaps that is in the plans - who knows.

Anyhow, I don't expect this poll to change anything. I did not enter the contest and I did not read the rules and rewards. I did not consider that both banks would be decorated the same - would have been nice to have separate entries for Trammel and Felucca if they wanted both banks changed. I have no problem with WBB the way it is now. I just miss the people hanging out at WBB like they did before the Despise invasion that carried on too long.

Wonder if there will be a Crimsom Dragon on opening day for the new designs?

 

[Hemisphere]

Tram only is the sensible choice to me, nostalgia also being the deciding factor.

 

[Sneaky Que]

I have no problem with WBB the way it is now. I just miss the people hanging out at WBB like they did before the Despise invasion that carried on too long.

QFT

 

[Sara Of Baja]

Why wasn't this brought up when the contest was first announced and BEFORE the contest ended? I'm not trolling here, just confused on why the questions are being brought up after the winners are announced?

 

[DirtMcGirt]

Tram only is the sensible choice to me, nostalgia also being the deciding factor.

Well if everyone hangs out in trammel and they want this "nostalgia" why not keep trammel original and update Fel?

That is of course going by what you said.

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Doesn't really matter to me although I do believe that it will be more appreciated in Tram facets than in Fel just based on the differences in playstyle of the facets.

Why would that be?

QFT

Seems alot of the trammel players want it left the way it is.

So can you just update Fel?

Why wasn't this brought up when the contest was first announced and BEFORE the contest ended? I'm not trolling here, just confused on why the questions are being brought up after the winners are announced?

Because the average Ultima Online player will never be pleased and needs something to cry about, most will never be content or happy.

Thanks...la

 

[Morgana LeFay (PoV)]

Tram only please.

Fel should remain the last bastion of "old" UO...even though its not anymore.

 

[kelmo]

Not applicable... We only have the one WBB. Change happens. Says so right there in the ToS. *nods*

 

[Zuckuss]

Felucca has been Trammified too much already. Please leave the fel landmarks alone. Why change a 12 year icon of the game?

I remember 10 times as many people used to pile at West Brit bank than they do at Luna today.

It is one of the most familiar icons for us veterans. Please leave it alone.

Besides you guys (invasion planners) had already drove everyone away from Brit for some crazy reason. I guess you didn't want players hanging out there anymore. Which brings me to the question,

With all the issues that UO has today, why would you put your resources into this?

 

[kelmo]

Does any one really hang out at the Fel bank?

 

[Flora Green]

The contest is over. Everyone complaining had WEEKS to do so. You even had a second chance when the deadline was extended.

 

[Dor of Sonoma]

The main reason I have for voting 'Tram only' is nostalgia. WBB has been the way it is since the start of the game, it has so much history and memories tied to it. I just think it would be kind of sad to see that disappear...

I agree. Please spare us any further changes to the original land. Many of us have been there since the beginning, and we like it the way it is - replete with rich history and remembrances of things past.

Seriously. I don't want to see anyone mucking about with what little remains of our origins.

 

[kelmo]

Flora, you and I both know why this happens. No one can win. If there are winners, that means someone loses. That can not be tolerated in these times.

I really admire anyone that submitted a design. I would not know how to begin to do it, and I just don't have the time.

I hope this can happen again. I would love to see more player interaction with the landscape. This was a fun and major event. Our deal is settled on Siege. There is only one bank where I play. I look forward to the change.

 

[Sneaky Que]

Hmm, well it seems this is rather close, the player base is split on the idea. So I say to please everyone it should just be redone in Tram, we get our cool looking new banks for Tram, and get to keep our beloved WBB in Fel. As for SP, well I dunno what to do there, probably needs it's own poll lol.

 

[Sneaky Que]

Can we get a Dev response as to if this is possible please?

 

[kelmo]

As for SP, well I dunno what to do there, probably needs it's own poll lol.

Oddly enough, on Siege, we congratulated the winner and moved on.

 

[Hemisphere]

Oddly enough, on Siege, we congratulated the winner and moved on.

You mean to say it's possible to make a collective deicision without a poll?

 

[kelmo]

*chuckles* On some things, it seems...

 

[Nastia Cross]

I chose Tram only, mainly because of Faction pvp concerns.

 

[Sneaky Que]

Can we get a Dev response as to if this is possible please?

Bump!

Devs, Yay? Nay?

 

[Tina Small]

It may be too early to know if this means anything: On Origin, the WBB in Trammel has been redecorated but the WBB in Fel is untouched.

 

[Sneaky Que]

It may be too early to know if this means anything: On Origin, the WBB in Trammel has been redecorated but the WBB in Fel is untouched.

*goes to look*

Is too!

Tram looks good, moon gate even takes you to Cove and back! Hopefully fel not being done will stay that way.

 

[Tina Small]

It may be too early to know if this means anything: On Origin, the WBB in Trammel has been redecorated but the WBB in Fel is untouched.

*goes to look*

Is too!

Tram looks good, moon gate even takes you to Cove and back! Hopefully fel not being done will stay that way.

If you take the moongate from Britain to Cove and then run to the NE about a screen or so, you'll find a moongate that plops you in Luna near the mage shop. The gates showed up when Cove, Nu'jelm, and Serpents Hold were invaded last year and were never removed. The town criers are still mixing in news of the invasion of Cove with news of the "newer" invasions.

 

[Deb]

After much thought, I have to agree that I do hope it is just
Tram Banks that are decorated. I admit I do not go to Fel
often but being here since Beta I would like the Fel Banks to remain
as they are since I do travel to Brit Fel.
Just my opinion is all.