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Lord Chaos

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So in short, you don't know anything, you're just making things up....gotcha. :thumbup1:
 

jack flash uk

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And how exactly did you know it happened like that? And how do you even know thats how its done? hmmmmm?
Duely noted you have NOT answered my question as to how such UOA "scripts" are created

there must be a site somewhere as MANY people do the same thing, not PERSONAL macros

i must check the UOA site see if the instructions are there

So i ask again Chaos, pls can you show me how to do such things

once proven that there is no scripting and indeed all i have seen are via UOA

instead of this getting out of hand and locked



gimma a buzz lets meet uo, then we can go over my long list of what i believe are script actions, in fact i have a rune book with 16 suspected script miners, let go see them, witness all doing the same thing, then you can teach me, and show me the UOA instructions

then i can finally stop reporting these legal players

what a relief i was wrong all this time
 

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So in short, you don't know anything, you're just making things up....gotcha. :thumbup1:
without hacking into other players computers we cannot know for sure

but don't you think it kinda odd that many players do the same thing? EXACTLY the same thing?

again, noted the reply

i give you what we believe to be evidence and you flap, but thats fine, i have seen this before. many times

i have yet to be convinced, until then status quo
 

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i have a few days off work :)

if you have the time, i would be grateful if you can show me how UOA macros/scripts work
 

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TWO HOURS later still waiting

so either you are NOT willing to teach me the ways of UOA, or more probable, there are no UOA macros that can do what you claim

that answers that then

Cheers Chaos

that concludes my interest in this topic, satisfied

and i can now add you to my ignore list, grats you have become the second person to join my list

lol bye bye Lord Chaos
 

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I can not believe how many folk find so many twisted ways to justify their cheating...

It sickens me the number of folk who think cheating is harmless, in games, in relationships and in life.

And who can smuggly post about their cheating as if it is some badge of personal pride.


Sadly nothing will come of this.

You know what bothers me more than anything about all this?

Stratics will ban you or give you a warning for saying something bad about the DEV's or for calling the DEV team on a blatant blunder...

But folk can boast about being a cheating scum here .... and nothing is done...

When is being a cheat acceptable? When did it become acceptable to cheat?

Just because it's gone on for so long that makes it acceptable?

Because you feel that cheating doesn't hurt anyone it is somehow OK?

Seriously is there such a lack of respect and ethics in this world that we now find this sort of behavior acceptable?
 

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TWO HOURS later still waiting

so either you are NOT willing to teach me the ways of UOA, or more probable, there are no UOA macros that can do what you claim
Holy...Contrary to popular belief, I don't LIVE on the forums.

Its really easy to place a house fast with UOA, simply record the house placement process, set a key for that macro, then press the key when you want to nearly instantly place.

that concludes my interest in this topic, satisfied

and i can now add you to my ignore list, grats you have become the second person to join my list

lol bye bye Lord Chaos
yay! That means I can post what I want without silly replies from you. :thumbup1::thumbup1:
 
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- Well said MalagAste.

My hope is that most outspoken pro-cheat posters here are just mirroring the ways that some children vie/beg for attention by trying to be naughty or purposefully irregular in hopes of being noticed..
 

Lord Chaos

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It sickens me the number of folk who think cheating is harmless, in games, in relationships and in life.
So sad when you start mixing in completely inrelated topics into the discussion.

You're like one of those people who got so upset when people used official cheats in computer games:

"OMG, YOU USED A CHEAT SHEET FOR XXX GAME, YOU CHEAT IN LIFE!!!"

And who can smuggly post about their cheating as if it is some badge of personal pride.


Sadly nothing will come of this.

You know what bothers me more than anything about all this?

Stratics will ban you or give you a warning for saying something bad about the DEV's or for calling the DEV team on a blatant blunder...
Stratics is not your means for you to bash the developers.

But folk can boast about being a cheating scum here .... and nothing is done...
If people want to incriminate themselves. (for real or in jest) Then thats up to them, its not against the rules.

When is being a cheat acceptable? When did it become acceptable to cheat?
Back when the first arcade games came out with official cheats to them.

Welcome to a few decades ago, LOL.

Seriously is there such a lack of respect and ethics in this world that we now find this sort of behavior acceptable?
Regardless of whether Cheating is good or bad in game context, then it has nothing whatsoever to do with respect or ethics.
 
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Scripts that Auto Bandaid Heal you.
Scripts that Auto Poiton you..
Scripts that Auto Trap Box.

Heck Yeah! I want that, less keys, more fun.
 
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Scripts that Auto Bandaid Heal you.
Scripts that Auto Poiton you..
Scripts that Auto Trap Box.

Heck Yeah! I want that, less keys, more fun.
Paralize,poison,damage or poison,paralize,damage better yet damage,poison,paralize damge. Script loop destroyed. A script can only handle one at once with detecting and cool down against it. Scipt will be destroyed by more than one on one battles. Must use macros or said scrip pvp player will never be even consider averaged.
 
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So sad when you start mixing in completely inrelated topics into the discussion.

You're like one of those people who got so upset when people used official cheats in computer games:

"OMG, YOU USED A CHEAT SHEET FOR XXX GAME, YOU CHEAT IN LIFE!!!"

And who can smuggly post about their cheating as if it is some badge of personal pride.


Sadly nothing will come of this.

You know what bothers me more than anything about all this?



Stratics is not your means for you to bash the developers.



If people want to incriminate themselves. (for real or in jest) Then thats up to them, its not against the rules.



Back when the first arcade games came out with official cheats to them.

Welcome to a few decades ago, LOL.



Regardless of whether Cheating is good or bad in game context, then it has nothing whatsoever to do with respect or ethics.
up,up,down,down,left,right,left,right,B,A,start
 

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I can not believe how many folk find so many twisted ways to justify their cheating...

It sickens me the number of folk who think cheating is harmless, in games, in relationships and in life.

And who can smuggly post about their cheating as if it is some badge of personal pride.


Sadly nothing will come of this.

You know what bothers me more than anything about all this?

Stratics will ban you or give you a warning for saying something bad about the DEV's or for calling the DEV team on a blatant blunder...

But folk can boast about being a cheating scum here .... and nothing is done...

When is being a cheat acceptable? When did it become acceptable to cheat?

Just because it's gone on for so long that makes it acceptable?

Because you feel that cheating doesn't hurt anyone it is somehow OK?

Seriously is there such a lack of respect and ethics in this world that we now find this sort of behavior acceptable?
Wow, you just pushed the boundary between real life and UO so far back I might just walk outside and flamestrike a few babies, write a script for work, hold down my clicky pen every time I talk to someone, and then stand next to an airplane terminal with katana in hand talking **** to anyone who passes by.
 
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Wow, you just pushed the boundary between real life and UO so far back I might just walk outside and flamestrike a few babies, write a script for work, hold down my clicky pen every time I talk to someone, and then stand next to an airplane terminal with katana in hand talking **** to anyone who passes by.
This is whats known as a "Fail"

Please take notes children.
 
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- Yeah you are right: Cheating in a persistant state multi-player game has nothing to do with anyone/anything else other than your personal enjoyment
{Rules be damned! Why do we have rules anyway?1?!
- Hint: our game is not played by your rules. So please, learn to play with others and not with yourself; for that is what cheating tends to lead to..}
Have fun with that katana; and please do not flamestrike babies, even if you get free candy. Okay? Thx. Oh, and please do not take advantage of fellow gamers, by cheating, just as you would not take advantage of fellow rule-abiding humans, by cheating. Okay? Thx.

cheaters inevitably lose

(and often they don't ever know; yes, it is sad. Yes people will always cheat; and inevitably lose)

...---...
 

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Paralize,poison,damage or poison,paralize,damage better yet damage,poison,paralize damge. Script loop destroyed. A script can only handle one at once with detecting and cool down against it. Scipt will be destroyed by more than one on one battles. Must use macros or said scrip pvp player will never be even consider averaged.
Unless you're up against Llewyn apparently. :lol:
 
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- Well said MalagAste.

My hope is that most outspoken pro-cheat posters here are just mirroring the ways that some children vie/beg for attention by trying to be naughty or purposefully irregular in hopes of being noticed..
What is meant by purposefully irregular?
 

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"Kal Vas...
You have been hit in the face with a steel-toed boot.
Your concentration is disturbed, thus ruining thy spell."

:lol:
Nice try Stupid Miner, but steel? Um, like, we all know boots are only comprised of leather. I mean, gosh, check a sewing kit once it awhile!!! :eek:snap:

;P
 
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I must be missing something here, Debate what? scripting is illegal, there is no debate, or justification
Apprantly there is need for a debate because scripting is NOT illegal.

Scripting can be done with both UOA and the EC BOTH of which are APPROVED third party programmes. Someone mentioned looting fast, EC. Placing Fast, EC or UOA.

Scripting is 100% legal, AFK scripthing is illegal.

Now, i am 100% against the auto boxing (although the crap ones are fun, can spam kill someone with words lol) auto chugging etc.

I see no problem or ability to judge(by us) whether someones actions are illegal or not...person doesnt talk, maybe he/she doesnt like you. I have no problem with people working skills faster, the sooner a person is out and about better for the community (IMO)
 

Lord Chaos

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How do you know someone doesn't get the confirmation box?

Btw, if you're really clever, I do believe you can UOA the confirmation box as well, simply have that prerecorded from another placement.
 
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Hmmm...I personally know multiple people that have been using so called 3rd party programs on a daily basis since so called "3rd party detection" came out. None have been banned. I can confirm this probably because I fall under this category. :)
i give ls props. least he is man enough to admit it. better this than those that deny the existence of such things in a self serving manner.

I think we should refocus the arguement here. anyone know of anyone who was singled out? how was the notification handled? anyone in jail?

i'm for public naming. they do that in other games. whats the big deal.
 

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Because as said, UO does not have unique character names. Not to mention, I don't know any major MMO that does this.
 

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Because as said, UO does not have unique character names. Not to mention, I don't know any major MMO that does this.
Final Fantasy Online.

My case in point about cheating can be summed up with the recent EM event held on GL's.

Rules were posted before the event began.

Very simple rules.

Among those were NO PRECASTING.

So the event begins and 4 people are chosen for the first round... right off the bat one of the first four contestants while waiting for the go ahead begins casting what?????

Hailstorm.

It's like Hello.... I'm sorry but what part of "NO PRECASTING" did you not understand.

Player gets called on the precast and the EM tries to handle this by spawning a small monster for the person to cast the pre-cast spell upon to get back to doing the event...
Player finally casts on the small monster EM walks to the other side of the area.... Player once again casts hailstorm.... once again the player is called out.

Now... granted this player lost anyway but it's the principle..... if they had won..... would you be upset if they cheated costing you a win?

Suppose that it was between you and another player for the win and this player did that beating you by a fraction of a second... would you be upset? Would you demand a rematch?

Honestly I can not understand why so many people feel as though the rules somehow do not apply to them. The rules are there for everyone to keep things fair.

When it came my turn I could have cast EoO before entering...... but that would have been cheating.... sadly I noticed several others doing just that.

It just blows my mind how so many feel that rules just don't apply to them. I mean EVERYONE not only was told to read the rules... but the EM's went over the rules before the event began...

It's frustrating that so many folk not only thought that was ok... but didn't get upset after being beaten by someone who was clearly cheating.
 

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Final Fantasy Online.
Never seen them do this and if anything it would be character names...which as such is useless for UO.

Suppose that it was between you and another player for the win and this player did that beating you by a fraction of a second... would you be upset? Would you demand a rematch?
He did something you weren't allowed to do. Something scripts can't do, they can only do what you as a player can do. Hacks and other programs on the other hand can somewhat break the rules. They are of a different breed and as such should be eliminated to control the competitive environment. But I don't compete with people, so it doesn't apply.

Honestly I can not understand why so many people feel as though the rules somehow do not apply to them. The rules are there for everyone to keep things fair.
How is it fair if for instance one player has more money and can buy fancy computer + fancy keyboard/mouse that completely owns you in combat?
 

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Well I believe that UO and the pixles are owned by EA. One simple way to confirm that any action has taken place is to log in one of these chars into jail, turn on a script hence keeping him/her logged for all of us to see. Post the directions to thier house but don't set it all burning for months on end.
 

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I have to agree with Lord Chaos about UOA. he is pretty well right. If you know what you are doing you can make some elite macros. Some can be used in pvp and some can be uses in placement of housing. The secret to learning these macros is practicing and experimenting. I hope that most know you can mix UO macros and UOA macros into one macro key instead of hitting 2.


My main acount ends at the 7th of next month.Tired of a broken game and shrinking community that most people try to ignore. I wont be coming back. I gave my stuff away already so dont be asking for it :p

Here is a nice little combintaion of UO and UOA macros

Say you have the bushido skill and use confidence. You also want to use a greater heal pot same time. You are almost redline I hit one key that does both use confidence then greater heal pot.

How do you do it you ask? On your UOA macro record this... double click your greater heal pot 2 times. Then stop recording. Add a pause like 1000 between the 2 use item on UOA. Delete the First use item only and leave the pause 1000 . Your UOA macro should look like this.

Pause 1000
Use item
Pause 1000

Ok assign a key like the letter Z. Now in UO macro assign the letter Z key to use spell confidence.

When you hit the letter Z both the UOA macro and the UO macro will work together just like said cheating scripts. Same can be said for trapped boxes, drinking a refresh potion and using the chiv spell divine fury same time,. Wonder how ppl run thru para fields so quick and hardly stop? Thats how. Just figure out the combos and your pauses. Each person pauses may vary depending on computer, connection speed, and distance of the shard you are playign on. Thats not even the tip of the iceburg what you can do. If you dont do them right the macros wont work.
 

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Not to mention if you combine UO Macros with UOA Macros with Keyboard and mouse ekstra keys and macros...then you can do some very advanced things well beyond even the most well written scripts.
 

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Not to mention if you combine UO Macros with UOA Macros with Keyboard and mouse ekstra keys and macros...then you can do some very advanced things well beyond even the most well written scripts.
Exactly!!

I did forget to mention how that macro I posted in my previous post how it works. Say I'm pvping and I am almostredlined. I hit my bandage self macro first + evasion combo. The hit the Z key. Even if interupted on the confidence spellthe greater heal pot kicks in and bandage with 180 stamina looks like i went from redlin to full health in no time. I can understand how peeps think others are using scripts when they may not. I was guilty of accusing some also until I learned what you could do.

Speed hacking is the bigger issue imo. Using speed hacks and legal or illegal macros you do see a difference.
 
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the most fun thing should be the ability to throw everything (like shoes :D )

imagine in pvp, you run out of mana then you throw your shoes against the enemy :D
"owww who throws shoes seriously you could really hurt someone" austin powers
 
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although i dont have it i 100% agree with stump how many countless times have you died/missed a kill be cause you run into a grave stone/small pile of sticks??

uo esp fel looks like a baby crawled across the designers keyboards and put a mill of these movement stop objects in the way
 

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although i dont have it i 100% agree with stump how many countless times have you died/missed a kill be cause you run into a grave stone/small pile of sticks??

uo esp fel looks like a baby crawled across the designers keyboards and put a mill of these movement stop objects in the way
UO.CFG change the desolation to yes or no, which ever it is not. This will change the Fel landscape into tram and changes certain gravestones into small trees which one can fly through all day long. Only down side is now there are leaves everywhere and it can be harder to see people under them but thats ok all the same.
 

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Note:

UOA Macros and UO Macros working off the same key: Has been legal as long as UOA itself has been legal - hence the ability to tell UOA to let UO read the keystroke as well. A few of the extreme cases (multiple pot tossing) got nerfed along the way, for being unbalanced.

But the simple fact is that an unaltered copy of UOA only has 200 lines for which to encode macro-based scripts, and can't loop. This has been approved by EA/Mythic. It is NOT the same as illegal scripting - by definition.

The things that the illegal script programs can do that are illegal, are things that UOA by itself, or in combination with UO macros, simply CANNOT do. Again, by definition.


It doesn't matter if A & B both can turn eggs into scrambled eggs - it's when A can take scrambled eggs, unscramble them, then put them back into intact eggshells that the issue of outside forces manipulating events come into play. (BURN THE WITCH!!!!!)
 

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But the simple fact is that an unaltered copy of UOA only has 200 lines for which to encode macro-based scripts, and can't loop. This has been approved by EA/Mythic. It is NOT the same as illegal scripting - by definition.
But with the help of keyboard/mouse macros, you can extend UOA macros or even loop them many times over.

The things that the illegal script programs can do that are illegal, are things that UOA by itself, or in combination with UO macros, simply CANNOT do. Again, by definition.
This is true, but these are things that again a player can do themselves, nothing is extended beyond this capability.
 
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What is meant by purposefully irregular?
- I did a quick bit of brainstorming on that one. I was trying to go with 'punk', 'rebel', 'wild child'.. but I didn't want to point to any common term for what old folks have been known to call young troublemakers. Then on a whim I read the first definition of irregular (since that is an adjective I came up with when trying to narrow down what I was trying to say) and it fit well enough to go with that, rather than get probable backlash from people trying to focus on one minor issue with my pose and use that as their basis to promote their pro-cheater propagand and/or backlash from those that are or were previously in a rebel or punk or alternative crowd.. especially since those terms have become too generalized and are quite accepted by many people these days as meaning something other than, say, purposefully irregular (ex: I enjoy(ed) being 'alternative' ~ I like(d) The Doors, Pink Floyd, Jane's Addiction, MudHoney, Smashing Pumpkins years before they were commonly known, and many more) :)
- Oops, guess that was a long explanation.. well at least I gave something for someone bored to nitpick about, heh.
 

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Any action taken to eliminate cheating on EA/Mythic's part needs to done as openly as possible.

If they have a serious stand against cheating, are serious about ending cheating.. then excluding the players name/accounts is the ONLY information that should be withheld.

There should be a VERY public dissemination of information on 1) The actions taken against 2) xxx number of accounts for 3) the nature of their violation. Only then will the player base know that EA/Mythic is serious about ending cheating in their game.

It should read something like this.. "This week EA/Mythic has frozen the accounts and taken possession of the houses/banks and characters of 5 individual accounts for resource scripting. The houses have been taken over by OSI and will be deleted."

Otherwise it just smells like a whitewash. "This week the first series of actions took place on 3rd party program use offenders. "
I am with you on this one Yalp. I am not at all convinced after this.
 

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I'm shocked that the mods would lock other threads but not this one as nasty as a few posters have gotten.

+1 for uneven application of the RoC.
 
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