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olduofan
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didn't they something like uocodes is a completely different division and it takes months to prepare for it maybe that department dropped the ball and its out of the teams hands now..
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Now the end of the EST business week is long over... still no codes or news.
It's bad enough we are expected to pay for these micro-additions…
Honestly, though… I think this is the first time “The Game Code Store” had every failed. What disappoints me, far from being so rare, there isn’t an announcement on uo.com before the staff tips out the door for the weekend. That couldn’t take more then 15 mins at best. How can this rubbish be tested over the weekend without the codes? It's silly.
But for the record, I’m thinking boycott anyway. All these items should be have been included in Spring Cleaning 2011. That would have rocked.
It's bad enough we are expected to pay for these micro-additions…
Honestly, though… I think this is the first time “The Game Code Store” had every failed. What disappoints me, far from being so rare, there isn’t an announcement on uo.com before the staff tips out the door for the weekend. That couldn’t take more then 15 mins at best. How can this rubbish be tested over the weekend without the codes? It's silly.
But for the record, I’m thinking boycott anyway. All these items should be have been included in Spring Cleaning 2011. That would have rocked.
Not really a boycott if you still pay for the monthly subscription.
I appreciate peoples anger over these new packs but they are far from critical content and I can easily live without them.
Its just the way some companies are deciding to run there games unfornately.
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Woodsman
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He or Mesanna stated directly that the GMs are not under their control, and I remember them mentioning that it was difficult to work with the game codes store, and there's been other things said that make me think a lot of stuff is outside of his control. We're getting the graphics update and the quest and new player stuff because something changed that was out of his control as well. I'm not complaining about the last bit, and I doubt he did either.
They did at the House of Commons. They said it took a lot of effort to get stuff added to the game codes store. They said they were trying to get it streamlined.
EA must not have been too worried about revenue from UO, because if they had simply overhauled game codes and added a lot more pixel crack, they could have been bringing in a lot more revenue over the past few years. Everybody was surprised with the Britannia ship being added, but I think that was just to drive High Seas sales.
For another sign of the lack of communication, UO High Seas and Stygian Abyss go on sale fairly often on the EA store, and yet those prices are never carried over to the game codes store.
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ChReuter
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Seems so!
Now, back in the day we used to be able to kill counselors and the like with fire fields and than poison fields. When they nerfed that, I wasn't happy but understood. It did ruin some good fun though.
This though? This is absolutely stupid and shouldn't be touched. If anything should be nerfed, it's your shameless self promotion!
Haha. Nice. It's a silly nerf to satisfy a few lazy people.Seems so!
Now, back in the day we used to be able to kill counselors and the like with fire fields and than poison fields. When they nerfed that, I wasn't happy but understood. It did ruin some good fun though.
This though? This is absolutely stupid and shouldn't be touched. If anything should be nerfed, it's your shameless self promotion!
Each theme pack is $9.99, or both for $14.99...
I'm (not) shocked they think there is enough content between the two packs to justify a price similar to HS.
The packs are hardly worth $5 each.
I'm (not) shocked they think there is enough content between the two packs to justify a price similar to HS.
The packs are hardly worth $5 each.
They aren't..... and they aren't even complete. I don't care what they try to BS me with..... no floor tiles, no new doors, no roof tiles.... and no on the foundations..... = Incomplete.
They want me to pay that much for a few measly tiles and some minor items..... forget it.
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Eyes of Origin
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We get your point... you've said it over and over and on different threads. =(
As for those of us who are buying it... has anyone had any luck yet with the website?
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Heartseeker
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We don't care if you buy it Malag....many of us will.
The code store is so busy that you can't purchase it right now, been trying for almost 2 hours.
The code store is so busy that you can't purchase it right now, been trying for almost 2 hours.
I'm already, quite frankly, against the idea that in order to keep up with game function that most players have to visit somewhere other than uo.com in order to learn about how the game's systems really work. Aside from the need to read your stories -- whatever and wherever they may be -- in order to glean this little tidbit of knowledge, the presence of such information in your stories certainly doesn't mean there wasn't an issue.
Though, gods know I wish it worked that way. I'd start writing stories about the perfect graphics of UO, the stable systems, the singular quest system, and about a half million other things to correct the minor errors that all build up to a huge mess in UO.
What... both of you were aware of it?
Or, perhaps, if they're preparing to place an item somewhere that would, you know, in fact, be lootable? I mean, a no-loot item placed with the intention of it being, in fact, you know, lootable might, just, you know, defeat the purpose placing said item in the first place.
Yes, yes, your horribly productive life of attending an EM event for the sheer chance of "oooh goodie goodie the emz forgotzed to flag their itemz and i can runz off wit dem!" days are over. I'm sure both active thieves will be saddened, and the rest of us won't even notice.
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olduofan
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WOW I agree MalagAste but if I said that ha.... thanxs for posting for me
10 points
Given the number of malfunctions that site has, I'm surprised anyone would use the excuse "[t]he code store is so busy..."
I mean, really?
Yeah... I'm sure there was a rush for codes that only work on Origin right now.
Why in the world that site is still outsourced to some second-rate web-design hack is beyond me. Another six months of silly infinitesimally mini boosters, and you'll have to scroll to oblivion just to find the "I survived the Rapture and all I got was this silly UO promotional t-shirt" fancy shirt button.
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Heartseeker
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You might have a point there, it seems borked if you're buying the new theme packs, while other transactions work fine....
While possible, since it's not a titled "expansion" (and I use that term loosely) like High Seas, I doubt it. The EA Store only seems to sell the expansion-level content.
Would love to be proven wrong, since the UOGC site has been in need of an overhaul since, well, what year was it they first implemented it?
"Busy"
Right.
uogamecodes has always had issues when something new is released. Every. Damn. Time. The site is a PoS, and Mythic knows it.
UO doesn't have the playerbase to bring an e-commerce site to its knees, unless its being run off a TI 180.
Now, when SW:TOR releases, then we might see EA's ability to take our money delayed. UO booster packs? No.
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olduofan
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ya I read in anther thread some of the same old kiss as around here who said something along the lines that their selling so many codes to those that said they wouldn't buy them that you cant even buy them because the site is so busy.. hmmm thats very funny... ha
10points I guess next....plz
10points I guess next....plz
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Heartseeker
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You sound like you need a hug....
But you're right it is messed up again tonight, I jumped the gun not realizing who I was dealing with.
You know... maybe that's what's going on:
Mythic is purposely bogging down the sales server so that all of the people who want to buy the codes and have supported this travesty of a pair of mini-boosters will come here to Stratics to say, "Oh dear, the site is so busy, everyone must be buying them!" so that those who aren't going to buy them might think, "Oh, wait, I might be missing something here," and rush on over in a day or two to buy the codes themselves.
I mean... it would be an inventive, nigh on brilliant marketing scheme.
Which sort of is proof in and of itself that it's just server issues.
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olduofan
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un-fortunately I do not feel safe commit here and I'm very sure your smart enough to know why.... haYou know... maybe that's what's going on:
Mythic is purposely bogging down the sales server so that all of the people who want to buy the codes and have supported this travesty of a pair of mini-boosters will come here to Stratics to say, "Oh dear, the site is so busy, everyone must be buying them!" so that those who aren't going to buy them might think, "Oh, wait, I might be missing something here," and rush on over in a day or two to buy the codes themselves.
I mean... it would be an inventive, nigh on brilliant marketing scheme.
Which sort of is proof in and of itself that it's just server issues.
P.S. to the rest read sig
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Woodsman
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Yes, they are doing this deliberately so that all 25 people reading this thread will decide to buy it.If they actually wanted to sell more copies, they could drop the price.
For the content level, as I told someone else, if they sold them for $5.99 each, and the pair for $9.99, I might buy it. If they sold pieces of it separately, I might buy the pieces I wanted (and for those flower beds, I might even buy multiples).
Instead, they've gone the route of charging a lot more than what they're worth individually in some strange effort to recoup money on the "Encampment System," which should never have been expansion level content in the first place.
Honestly, I have no idea whose marketing strategy these two mini-boosters were, but to charge the same price for the pair of them, or 2/3rds the price of the last full-booster for a single mini-booster, is downright absurd.
I say all of this noting that there are some people who will look at certain systems and spend the money and be perfectly happy with it. But personally, I'll shy away from spending money on this particular set. Yeah, the distillery seems cool, but not $9.99 cool. The garden bed seems cool, but again, not $9.99 cool. Combined, are they each $4.99 cool? Nope, as I value the garden bed at about $1.99 cool, maybe $2.99 cool, and the distillery, yeah, maybe $4.99 cool. Maybe.
Yeah, it's my own value assessment, but when I look at what we have gotten comparatively to our dollar spending in the past, I don't see the value in these two boosters, separately or combined, and I think it's a very cheap way to satisfy "new content" for the game without focusing on a full-blown expansion. Of course, since we're fast approaching 2 years of Stygian Abyss and they're just now talking about filling in the gaps that were left in SA, well, I'm glad they're not doing more full-blown expansions. I'm just sad to see the quality and quantity level of the boosters falling to such a low standard. Unfortunately, I don't see the matter improving either.
Well, I haven't nearly played through all my High Seas content. Heck I'm still catching up from SA in places.
Maybe in the future there will be a way, a very expensive way, to craft the beds as a deed. Sure seems like the hands down winner out of all the packs to me.
Maybe in the future there will be a way, a very expensive way, to craft the beds as a deed. Sure seems like the hands down winner out of all the packs to me.
It's because they've learned we, the p(l)ayerbase, will blindly accept an appallingly low-quality product from them. We've proven it repeatedly.
Why aim to meet or surpass industry standards when they can aim low, still continually miss the mark, and know people will blithely lap it up?
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olduofan
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well i see some very good points here I wish I could join in...
Tha old kiss as he refering to is me: http://vboards.stratics.com/uhall/243655-so-who-wants-place-bets.html
But you forget to mention i said it with a wink. So next time could you please give the complete info to others instead of half one to make you interesting. I think you loosing the meaning of humor.
I would like this as well.
I really have to question how much cash this is actually gonna bring them relative to the grief it'll bring of long-time players getting pissed off at them.
If they actually wanted to sell more copies, they could drop the price.
I likely-won't be buying these right away; I suppose I probably will sooner or later and, who knows, I might get bored some night and snatch them up early anyway.
But, to me anyway, this isn't even at the High Seas level.
My fear is that it sets a precedent for charging us for ordinary content. My fear is that Cal and EA Corporate had some variant on the following conversation.
I have no insider information, that's just my fear, based on what happens when corporate doesn't understand the business model of one of their ventures. They start to play games with it, run experiments on it, then blame it rather than themselves for the eventual failure.
It is, I admit, a wild extrapolation from the two content packs.
I have been clear that this is only a fear of mine. If Cal or Mesanna or somebody wants to pop on and say "EA Corporate is actually quite supportive," I'd accept that.
-Galen's player
Well I'm glad you don't care about what they pass off on you. As for me I do.
And you wonder why all the expansions of late are buggy and undone. Got an answer for you. Because they know you'll buy it anyway, why bother doing a good job.
Maybe I'm wrong but i don't see 14.99 worth of content . Heck high sea at 14.99 look how much you got with it compare to this . They want pawn this off at 14.99 all i got to say is Stop hitting that crack pipe!!!!!
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olduofan
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Tha old kiss as he refering to is me: http://vboards.stratics.com/uhall/243655-so-who-wants-place-bets.html
But you forget to mention i said it with a wink. So next time could you please give the complete info to others instead of half one to make you interesting. I think you loosing the meaning of humor.
Hey I was not trying to quote you I have no issues with you never have and as you pointed out YOU was one of the ones mocking those I was referring to. hope this clears up the misunderstanding......
I was simply agreeing with you is all...ha
at the time of this writing, the 2 theme packs are available for purchas on uogamecodes, however they are not activated on all shards.
thats really, really stupid. You should take those codes down until the publish goes live on all shards, or your gonna have some seriously pissed off customers.
Oh wait, it's EA. They don't care about pissed off customers. Nevermind.
thats really, really stupid. You should take those codes down until the publish goes live on all shards, or your gonna have some seriously pissed off customers.
Oh wait, it's EA. They don't care about pissed off customers. Nevermind.
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Woodsman
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People who like F2P games would love paying for content like this, since a lot of F2P content falls into this category (or it's necessary content and you feel ripped off).
It feels exactly like it was priced by people who don't play UO which makes me think EA Corporate. I'm not going to look at DLC for the Sims games, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was similar.
I don't wonder. After they laid a bunch of people off after Stygian, there was no way things were going to be easier/better. If they hadn't laid all of those people off, then Stygian would have been finished, High Seas would have been quicker/better, etc.
God help us if Star Wars doesn't do well and they decide to do another round of layoffs
At least they are doing something with Ultima with the Ultima Forever stuff.
Nevermind that it's on Origin to be tested on a production shard and the folks on Origin should be able to, you know, upgrade and test the new items and such.....
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Silverbrook
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As someone who has played numerous F2P games, I can only say that it appears their level of free content is better and more than the current content subscribers of Ultima Online pay for now.
As many have stated, these things may be worthy of a publish, but in no way or shape are they worth half of what an actual boxed expansion would be. Let's also not forget that it is being released incomplete (as it appears most UO products are these days, sadly). I think, in all honesty, that the UO development team should feel some shame for allowing this kind of product to see the light of day and at the price point it is set at. Simply put, it is not worth it on any level.
I will not support this kind of lackluster product. To do so sends further message to the development team and higher up the food chain that this is all right to do to loyal subscribers who I might add already pay a monthly fee. I can assure you that the F2P games I indulge give far better content and things for any price you might actually choose to pay out of pocket.
I do not hope that this is the future of UO. People already herald its end, this only serves to add fuel to the fire.
The Harold Campings of UO have been around as long as the game has been.
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Woodsman
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EA would not cancel UO just as their "Ultima Forver" thing is starting. They haven't even released new details of the next Ultima game. I do fear that because they are doing some kind of Ultima campaign, that they might start screwing with UO more than they do. I think the pricing for these theme packs was set by somebody not involved with the UO dev team and I can only imagine it getting worse. What if some EA executive decides that UO should be a lot more like the Sims.
Geez, they are even doing a new Sims Online. Let's just hope that BioWare keeps the Redwood City folks out of their division.
Oh god what if they do in-game advertising in UO for the next Ultima game.
One thing is for certain, they need to fix UOGameCodes. The servers, yeah, but aside from the servers the front page looks terrible now. There are so many items for sale and there's no way to sort anything. I mean you have 3 months game time near the bottom of the vertical scroll then 6 months half way up, for example.
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