[UO Herald] Bug Fixes - 11/04/10

[watchertoo]

[size=+1]Bug Fixes - 11/04/10[/size]
James Nichols
4 Nov 2010 10:25:31 EST

Greetings,

The following bug fixes have been made:

[size=+]Bug Fixes - 11/04/2010[/size]
•White Leather Dye Tubs can no longer be sold to an NPC. The tubs original white leather tubs have been reverted back from cloth tubs to leather.
•Hellhound Treats will no longer stack with ribs. *warning: please be careful BBQ’ing with these treats in your backpack*

Thank you, and have fun!

 

[Babble]

ok.

 

[Ls Jax Ls]

What's that you say? Mysticism has been fixed? Oh wait...

 

[NB-Cats]

I can't believe they made an emergency bug fix that involves BBQing ribs.

 

[cdavbar]

My white tub NO LONGER DYES any leather! IT will not dye anything since the "bug fix"

 

[Widow Maker]

What???!!!!..no fixes to:

Tracking (absolutely broken)

Fields (absolutely broken)

Conflag pots (related to field spells broken)

How about you folks get off the freakin pot and fix something important!!!

 

[copycon]

grumble grumble grumble Classic Shard grumble grumble

 

[Restroom Cowboy]

What's that you say? Mysticism has been fixed? Oh wait...

You know...IF they do decide to make changes, I have a feeling you will still not be happy. In the meantime feel free to keep crying that a 7 ping no longer makes you kings of the hill.

 

[Tina Small]

My white tub NO LONGER DYES any leather! IT will not dye anything since the "bug fix"

I've only claimed two of the white leather dye tubs so far, one on Oceania and one on Origin. Checked both of them out for the first time a few minutes ago and they both work as intended on generic leather items (looted junk and stuff purchased from an armourer). I claimed the Oceania tub yesterday or the day before and immediately locked it down but didn't use it until a few minutes ago. The Origin one was just claimed minutes ago and is still in its owner's backpack.

 

[Lord Frodo]

Great they fixed the tubs. Now how about fixing other bugs and get rid of all the exploited bolts of cloth that were made.

 

[puni666]

What's that you say? Mysticism has been fixed? Oh wait...

No F#$(ing %)T. I'm deactivating my account in a month if nothing is said about balancing pvp.

 

[Viper09]

No F#$(ing %)T. I'm deactivating my account in a month if nothing is said about balancing pvp.

Except pvp will never be balanced. I don't even think it is possible since whatever change is made to pvp will also change for pvm. There will always be one template that is. Etter than another.

 

[puni666]

Except pvp will never be balanced. I don't even think it is possible since whatever change is made to pvp will also change for pvm. There will always be one template that is. Etter than another.

I don't expect absolute balance. If that were the case EVERY fight would end up in a stalemate. I expect obvious flaws to be addressed and balanced. I should be able to expect things since I help pay these people right?

 

[Viper09]

I don't expect absolute balance. If that were the case EVERY fight would end up in a stalemate. I expect obvious flaws to be addressed and balanced. I should be able to expect things since I help pay these people right?

Sure you should be able to expect it. But it will probably not happen either way. What is needed is a huge pvp patch. I think there has been one in the past, aside from the aos upgrade. But will it happen? I think the likely answer of a good effective pvp "balance" is no. At least no time soon. And given the low staff and unstable jobs thanks to ea I shan't be surprised.

 

[RaDian FlGith]

Great they fixed the tubs. Now how about fixing other bugs and get rid of all the exploited bolts of cloth that were made.

Just FYI, Mesanna posted in this thread here that we'll be getting white dye tubs soon.

So don't buy the cloth from anyone.

 

[Lord Frodo]

Just FYI, Mesanna posted in this thread here that we'll be getting white dye tubs soon.

So don't buy the cloth from anyone.

OUTSTANDING

 

[Sevin0oo0]

Just FYI, Mesanna posted in this thread here that we'll be getting white dye tubs soon.

So don't buy the cloth from anyone.

Woot! Coolness!! Great timing - I'm down to about 10k yards left of the spider made stuff

 

[Ls Jax Ls]

Except pvp will never be balanced. I don't even think it is possible since whatever change is made to pvp will also change for pvm. There will always be one template that is. Etter than another.

Remove consumables. Nerf magic arrow nether bolt. Remove two hit spells on bows. Reduce nerve strike damage. Reduce spell plague damage. PvP is now balanced.

 

[Old Man of UO]

Remove consumables. Nerf magic arrow nether bolt. Remove two hit spells on bows. Reduce nerve strike damage. Reduce spell plague damage. PvP is now balanced.

Really? Balanced? When players openly admit to using speedhacks, altered art files and other cheats and then complain about losing to players who don't, and you get to say when PvP is balanced? NOW, THAT'S FUNNY!

post by Jax

 

[Ls Jax Ls]

Really? Balanced? When players openly admit to using speedhacks, altered art files and other cheats and then complain about losing to players who don't, and you get to say when PvP is balanced? NOW, THAT'S FUNNY!

post by Jax

I knew 5 seconds after posting that it would be brought up time and time again. Like it says in the post, I am not playing against people who do not use the exact same thing. You don't PvP, you don't get to tell me what people do and do not use because I already know.

 

[Demonous]

No F#$(ing %)T. I'm deactivating my account in a month if nothing is said about balancing pvp.

people still pvp? i stopped like a year or 2 ago, you're better off waiting for a classic shard to pvp on, thats what im doing

 

[Llewen]

Like it says in the post, I am not playing against people who do not use the exact same thing.

One of the classic lies that cheaters tell themselves and anyone else who will listen, "Everyone is doing it." Well guess what, everyone is not doing it. If you've ever pvp'd against me, as you seem to indicate that you have, you have pvp'd against at least one person who does not "use the exact same thing".

I'm sure I've said this before, but it bears repeating. Subduing the cheating monster in pvp is going to change the balance of pvp, even what has been done so far has changed the balance in pvp. If they "balance" pvp now, before the job with regard to cheating is as finished as it ever will be, then when they get to the place where the cheating monster has been subdued, they will have to balance pvp again.

There are so many things that are affected by cheating: the game economy, the success of the enhanced client, and balance in pvp are three major elements of the game that come quickly to mind, but I'm sure there are others as well.

Anyway, I'm sure they prioritize and fix bugs and balance issues as they are able. Some issues are a lot more complex than others and require a lot more planning, coding and testing. It only stands to reason that simpler issues will be fixed before ones that are more complex, and balancing pvp has to be one of the most complex and tricky aspects of game development.

 

[Old Man of UO]

You don't PvP, you don't get to tell me what people do and do not use because I already know.

You're right, I don't get to tell you what to do in the game, the Terms of Service tells you what you can and cannot do. You seem to forget that part.

It's just ironic that you cheat and then whine when you can't beat everyone else.

 

[Ls Jax Ls]

One of the classic lies that cheaters tell themselves and anyone else who will listen, "Everyone is doing it." Well guess what, everyone is not doing it. If you've ever pvp'd against me, as you seem to indicate that you have, you have pvp'd against at least one persons who does not "use the exact same thing".

I have fought you. You run the enhanced client, which is just as fast as any speedhack available for the classic client. You say all kill and spam fireball, which is undoubtedly on a looped macro. You have no concept of what PvP is at all, which is why you probably wonder why you suck so bad.

 

[canary]

I have fought you. You run the enhanced client, which is just as fast as any speedhack available for the classic client. You say all kill and spam fireball, which is undoubtedly on a looped macro. You have no concept of what PvP is at all, which is why you probably wonder why you suck so bad.

On these very forums you've admitted to being a scripter and cheater. I don't think you are really credible at casting stones at peoples actual pvp ability. Sorry.

 

[Llewen]

One of the classic lies that cheaters tell themselves and anyone else who will listen, "Everyone is doing it." Well guess what, everyone is not doing it. If you've ever pvp'd against me, as you seem to indicate that you have, you have pvp'd against at least one persons who does not "use the exact same thing".

I have fought you. You run the enhanced client, which is just as fast as any speedhack available for the classic client. You say all kill and spam fireball, which is undoubtedly on a looped macro. You have no concept of what PvP is at all, which is why you probably wonder why you suck so bad.

Actually it isn't a looped macro and I did figure out something I was doing wrong not too long ago. I'm guessing you haven't fought me since then. But yes, I've been fighting cheaters like you for years, and giving as good as I got for years as well. As to whether I "suck" or not? Well, that really isn't for me to judge, but I think it's safe to say that I am an above average tamer.

 

[Ls Jax Ls]

Well, that really isn't for me to judge, but I think it's safe to say that I am an above average tamer.

Honest to god you're so far from an "average" tamer I feel bad for you. A tamer is probably one of the easiest templates there are, and you manage to make it look hard.

 

[Picus at the office]

Now that LLewen is here I wanted to post before the lock that is bound to follow.

This said I just wanted to add that not everyone cheats as I know of two people(myself being one of course) who play the game as designed. Having the EC work will have nothing to do with cheats working, if it was a better client and people liked it CC would be gone but this has not and will not happen. The economy is ruined and I see little chance for the inflation that has occured to be reversed save for some drastic changes to every aspect of the game, not going to happen either as the Dev team is a dev team and has yet to show a good handle on the economy.

Balance in PvP is fine I think. The only one change I would like to see is some minor tweak for the old poison. This skill has been nerfed to death and is done which is a great waste imo.

 

[Llewen]

Honest to god you're so far from an "average" tamer I feel bad for you. A tamer is probably one of the easiest templates there are, and you manage to make it look hard.

I'm not going to get into an epeen waving contest with you. We all know where your "skill" comes from. Once you've actually learnt how to play the game, then perhaps you'll be qualified to pass judgment on the skills of others, and maybe by then you'll also have developed enough honesty to be believed when you do.

 

[puni666]

people still pvp? i stopped like a year or 2 ago, you're better off waiting for a classic shard to pvp on, thats what im doing

If I wanted classic crap pvp I'd play a free shard.

 

[Old Man of UO]

Honest to god you're so far from an "average" tamer I feel bad for you. A tamer is probably one of the easiest templates there are, and you manage to make it look hard.

Wait... WHAT??

You're saying a tamer is the "easiest template" when you are using a speedhack mage and any other cheat you can throw in? Thumping your chest at what a great PvP player you are, while cheating? REALLY? You've got to be kidding me.

I challenge you to play a week without cheating, without using anything that isn't allowed in the TOS, then come back and post about your experience. I dare you.

 

[Nereus]

Well, bugs were certainly fixed with whatever was done. Last character played experienced a revert, and pets in use at the time are gone. Just wow.

 

[Viper09]

Remove consumables. Nerf magic arrow nether bolt. Remove two hit spells on bows. Reduce nerve strike damage. Reduce spell plague damage. PvP is now balanced.

Lol! No, that wont balance PvP. Guarantee you will be back here whining about something else that "horribly unbalanced" in PvP.

 

[Ls Jax Ls]

Lol! No, that wont balance PvP. Guarantee you will be back here whining about something else that "horribly unbalanced" in PvP.

Ah yes, the age-old "you're wrong" argument without an actual argument present.

 

[Viper09]

Ah yes, the age-old "you're wrong" argument without an actual argument present.

Kinda like your whole thread about how horrible consumables are where you resorted trolling and attacking everyone who disagreed.

 

[Melchior1]

I don't expect absolute balance. If that were the case EVERY fight would end up in a stalemate. I expect obvious flaws to be addressed and balanced. I should be able to expect things since I help pay these people right?

I agree like the never ending cap on DCI or the supposed here today gone tomorrow and back again HML. If the devs want to fix this then at least let us know so we can make suits around it. As far as ping goes, this topic has been drug into the ground too long. It's obvious the EA gods don't intend to fix it. Think about how many cross sharders would leave your shard once they realize they can't move. This wouldn't just be for pvp. If and only if, they fix pvp back to it's natural form (no hacks, cheats, scripts) then 90% of people who pvp would quit the game because they no longer have the upper advantage. The worst script I've seen to date is an idoc on Napa where members of a certain guild perfectly lined themselves against the west side of the house. When it fell, almost all boxes were gone or empty (before they had 300 to 1000 stones each) and they were situated in a very odd manner than before. Bottom line is, they (EA) hear us and know we have legitimate complaints but they don't plan on fixing them anytime soon. UO is the best and longest lasting MMporg to date and on the same token, the most hacked, altered, and scripted than any other game. You would think that EA wouldn't want this "blood" on their hands.

 

[puni666]

Reduce nerve strike damage.

The damage isn't the issue. The problem is that you can wield this weapon with hardly any stamina and it's pretty much always a 1.25 swing. Every other melee AI weapon is balanced out in it's own way. Kat's have a tiny damage range which makes it harder to cap out damage. Anything else if you take any damage you're down to a 1.5 or 2 second swing which is a huge difference if you're fighting quality players. Bokuto's never drop in speed period.

 

[Restroom Cowboy]

Remove consumables. Nerf magic arrow nether bolt. Remove two hit spells on bows. Reduce nerve strike damage. Reduce spell plague damage. PvP is now balanced.

So...what about bandaids...HLD...and low SDI? As mentioned before you have a very narrow (self motivated) view of what needs to be fixed. You will not touch any of the stuff I mentioned with a ten foot pole, and you fail to produce tangible reasons why what you want needs to be nerfed.

 

[Ls Jax Ls]

So...what about bandaids...HLD...and low SDI? As mentioned before you have a very narrow (self motivated) view of what needs to be fixed. You will not touch any of the stuff I mentioned with a ten foot pole, and you fail to produce tangible reasons why what you want needs to be nerfed.

Probably because none of those things needed adjusted.

 

[R Traveler]

Silent nerf of MiB loot - 5x less new items

 

[Babble]

Silent nerf of MiB loot - 5x less new items

Ninja Nerf or bad luck?

 

[R Traveler]

I made 50 MiBs on 1st two days and 30 MiBs today.
I clearly see difference.

 

[Viper09]

I made 50 MiBs on 1st two days and 30 MiBs today.
I clearly see difference.

Could quite possibly nothing more than luck.