turn ins for pub 53???

[kristypl]

Did we ever get a comlpete list of items we can turn in for the next cycle??
i have bundles of old xmas and vday crap.

Thanks,

Kristy

 

[Crysta]

http://update.uo.com/design_592.html

 

[Basara]

And, again I make the plea....

1. Remove the T-maps, or require them to be completed maps. And, boost the point value in the library for maps - 20 for the library, for something that gives 1000 in the cleanup, is NUTS.

2. Remove the nets and SOS, and replace them with a flat turn-in point value for items with the "recovered from a shipwreck" title. or, how about leaving the normal SOS as a turn-in, and having ASOS as 1000 to 5000 point REWARDS????

3. Add the doom & tokuno Stealables. Heck, even 100 points per artifact level (up to Artifact level 9) would work.

The turn-ins on test serve only to wreck Treasure Hunters & fishers, and thumb its nose at one of the major sources of clutter, which are the stealables.

 

[packrat]

Im with you Basara. The t-maps should be removed. Any item that is accepted at the library should be removed. The doom stealables should be 100 points up to a level 5.

 

[RedDaTeef]

So my Blade of Rightousness is considered a stealable and there for cannot be turned in for 10000 points?
Only Dark Father Arties?

 

[PJay]

Totally agree. I was under the impression this new donation system was to clean up sosaria.
Surely the only people with sos's nets and t-maps are the people who actually do the maps or donate them. Anyone who has these taking up lockdowns and dosnt intend to use them has no reason to have them and therefore would throw them in the trash.

If they are a problem (god knows why) then why cant sos's and nets be added to the library system??

I dont like the doom artifact system seems theres no advantage in handing in a orny as opposed to a bone crusher. Same with the leviathan artifacts.

Also why are there items in these lists which are perma collectable? Surely the people farming or collecting the items in this list are collecting them for there own use?

Well its almost certain that the so called 'Clean up of sosarias' now going to fill everyones homes with farmed items just to donate so wheres the cleanup part come in??

 

[Esmeralda]

I´m happy with beeing able to turn in my tmaps! I mean obtaining a library reward only by donating t-maps... well I would be old and grey before I could obtain those glasses
They aren´t worth it completing them (maybe besides lvl 5 and 6), but they are too worthy to simply throw them away.

Oh and btw, it would be awesome if we could turn in stealable arties! The lvl´s below 7 are so pointless to steal nowadays. Tbh the only worthwhile arties are the 10´s and maybe the saddle. The others are gathering dust while no one wants to buy them.

 

[Marcellis]

I disagree with taking out Treasure maps. I have hundreds I don't anticipate ever selling or completing and I'd like to benefit from them rather than throw them away. Plus, the turn ins won't be permanent will they? The supply of treasure maps will increase when the spring cleaning is done.

 

[PJay]

Hrmm ive allways sold stealables from doom and allways been able to sell them on my vendors so people must want them most likely for deco.

But the point of a clean up is to get rid of items that are of no use whatsoever. Not to go out farm stealables and tmaps and sos's. Hows that a cleanup?

I can see the next stage being items you can buy from npc vendors just to make it even more silly.

If youve tons of tmaps and never intended to use them then why do you have them :/

 

[Azureal]

@ Basara

I would agree with the removal of TMaps only if the points you got for handing them in at the library stacked with the points for all other library hand ins.

The fact that it takes so much stuff to get ANYTHING from the library is stupid. If the points carried over from NPC to another Id agree. Till then I need something to do with all the maps I have. They dont sell on NPCs, and I dont have a T-Map hunter, nor do I care to make one.

I do however have a fisherman. Had him for longer than my GM mage. The hand ins for SoS and Nets doesnt worry me at all, and I think your claim that it wrecks fisherman and thunters is way off. Both classes still have to choice to do the maps/mibs, or now hand them in. Its up to the Devs to revamp both classes (not a chance, imo).

I do however agree with the loot (re: junk) fished up from MiBs and the kajillions of stolen Doom items cluttering up the shards. Hell, amy as throw the zajillion Tokuno stealables in there as well.

 

[Azureal]

If youve tons of tmaps and never intended to use them then why do you have them :/

Quite simply, because its hard to throw things away. Thats what UO caters to, packrat-ism. You keep it just in case.

Just incase someone wants to buy them.

Just incase you decide to one day dig them up.

Just incase there is ever a collection...

 

[Piotr]

I think the list of new turn-ins is good, however it may need a few adjustments here and there (see list below).

I'd also liked to see Doom stealable artifacts added to that list. Some have suggested 100 points/rarity level, I think that would be appropriate.


Holiday & Valentine Gifts 100pts

Grobu’s Fur 100pts

Powerscrolls 105 100pts

Treasure Map(Plainly, Expertly, and Adeptly Drawn 200pts

SOS and MIBs 250pts

Cleverly Drawn Treasure Map 250pts

Powerscrolls 110 500pts

Stats Scroll +5 500pts

Deviously Drawn Treasure Map 500pts

Paragon Minor Artifacts 750pts

Special Fishing Net 750pts

Powerscrolls 115 1,000pts

Stats Scroll +10 1,000pts

Ingeniously Drawn Treasure Map1,000pts

Leviathan Minor Artifacts 1,500pts

Ingenious Map Minor Artifacts 1,500pts <- What are these?

Fabled Fishing Net 1,500pts

Ancient SOS 1,500pts

Stats Scroll +15 2,000pts

Powerscrolls 120 3,500pts

Stats Scroll +20 3,500pts

Stats Scroll +25 7,500pts

Doom Artifacts 10,000pts


Please feel free to post "corrections", if you think I'm way off.

 

[RavenWinterHawk]

Not bad for the turn ins.

Some things that need to be added.
Tokuno/Doom arty stealables.
200 points per level. Maybe bonus for each level above 5.
I cant believe they arent in there.


Why? They are finally random. Please help clear these out of the game.

115 powerscrolls are too low.

The rest need some tweaking but I think they are pretty fair.

 

[Basara]

There are certain minors that can only be gotten via level 6 Treasure maps or ASOS minor arty drops.

Candelabra of Souls, Cold Blood, the rum, the ship model, the DP Hat and Quacklebush's Cutlass. OF course, this wouls also include the anchor and seahorse for the LEviathan marties, but I don't see ANYONE turning those in....

 

[RavenWinterHawk]

Oh and blackrock. Shouldnt that be removed too from game?

 

[RavenWinterHawk]

HMM seems like I was originally looking at someones updated list with their changes. No wonder it made sense (HEHE).

My 2 cents
You need to inlcude Doom/Tok stealables.
100 points level 1
200 points level 2
300 points level 3
500 points level 4
600 points level 5
750 points level 6
1000 points level 7
2000 points level 8
5000 points level 9
7500 points level 10


Turn-in items
Holiday & Valentine Gifts 50pts (100 points)
Grobu’s Fur 100pts (get rid of them)
SOS and MIBs 100pts (200 points)
Powerscrolls 105 100pts (250 points)
Treasure Map(Plainly, Expertly, and Adeptly Drawn) 100pts (fine)
Cleverly Drawn Treasure Map 200pts (300 points)
Powerscrolls 110 500pts (fine)
Stats Scroll +5 500pts (750 points)
Leviathan Minor Artifacts 500pts (brother rubble was 800 points. 1000 pts)
Deviously Drawn Treasure Map 500pts (750 points)
Paragon Minor Artifacts 500pts (900 points)
Ingenious Map Minor Artifacts 500pts (cant remember what they are)
Special Fishing Net 500pts
Powerscrolls 115 1,000pts (2500 points)
Stats Scroll +10 1,000pts (fine)
Fabled Fishing Net 1,000pts (2000 points)
Ingeniously Drawn Treasure Map 1,000pts (1500 points)
Ancient SOS 1,000pts (1500 points)
Stats Scroll +15 2,000pts
Powerscrolls 120 3,500pts (come on 7500 points)
Stats Scroll +20 3,500pts
Stats Scroll +25 7,500pts
Doom Artifacts 10,000pts

Rewards
Virtue Tiles (each) 10,000pts
Yucca Tree 15,000pts
Bamboo 15,000pts
Horse Barding 20,000pts
Dragon Head 50,000pts
Nest with eggs 50,000pts
Fire Pit 75,000pts
Beehive 80,000pts
Archery Butte 80,000pts
Luck Ring 150,000pts
Luck Bracelet 150,000pts

HOW MANY VARIETIES OF VIRTUE TILES? If there are a boat load then I think the points actually look good for trade in.

YOU NEED TO HAVE LOTS OF 10k Priced Items.

My final 2 cents

 

[Crysta]

I just did some testing.. and it seems stealables CAN be turned in.. but.. something doesn't seem quite right with them... they all count as 10k points... i'm sorry, but I don't think a level 1 stealable is worth anywhere near that much.

There are probably near a hundred thousand or so of most of each of the types of stealables on each shard.. there's no way this can stay as is and be balanced.

 

[Connor_Graham]

"If youve tons of tmaps and never intended to use them then why do you have them :/"

To sell to people that don't. Why else?

 

[RavenWinterHawk]

I just did some testing.. and it seems stealables CAN be turned in.. but.. something doesn't seem quite right with them... they all count as 10k points... i'm sorry, but I don't think a level 1 stealable is worth anywhere near that much.

There are probably near a hundred thousand or so of most of each of the types of stealables on each shard.. there's no way this can stay as is and be balanced.

well great you let the cat out of the bag.

 

[Crysta]

Guess that shows where you stand when it comes to game balance.

 

[RavenWinterHawk]

Guess that shows where you stand when it comes to game balance.

It was sarcasm.
Aimed at the enormous hiccup.

As you can see above, I was asking the stealables to be included with level 1 being 100 points (hehe).

10k for level 1 was funny to me. Im sure they will fix it. I just hope the keep the stealables in.

 

[Crysta]

Sorry.. sarcasm is kinda hard to convey in text, especially when the reader has recently woken up. :x

 

[RavenWinterHawk]

Sorry.. sarcasm is kinda hard to convey in text, especially when the reader has recently woken up. :x

Yep.
Thats why I have to explain myself all the time. But I think you should get a bonus for finding the glitch. The other part of the saracasm was toward those that found it and are keeping a secret.

So its double sarcasm.

I havent been to trade yet. I mostly interested in finding pics of the virtue tiles.

 

[Crysta]

http://vboards.stratics.com/showthread.php?t=2238

First post there has accurate, if jpeg'd, pictures.

 

[Cyrah]

*Hugs Crysta* .... whoa talk about thief support coming true, ha!

Agree 10k for a light up skull is very odd, maybe the UO thieves really, really need new toys,

So fire pit is that darn box, ewww, I got a strong feeling who created it, I like him alot but NOT the pit.

 

[Prince Caspian]

I wonder if the beehive will yield honey. Or better yet, if we can Africanize the bees and have them attack the damn vampire bats that spawn around my tower.

I'm a bit disappointed that this round is putting such high premiums on items that still spawn, yet giving the normal pittance for the legacy items. But since I don't particularly care for any of these items, it's not a big letdown.

What about the threads?

 

[Crysta]

I wonder if the beehive will yield honey.

Yes. It does. Unfortunately, security settings don't work on it, so you have to unlock it to getthe honey if you have it locked down.

 

[Connor_Graham]

Has anyone checked to see if the various ML set pieces give points?

 

[Hanna]

HMM seems like I was originally looking at someones updated list with their changes. No wonder it made sense (HEHE).

My 2 cents
You need to inlcude Doom/Tok stealables.
100 points level 1
200 points level 2
300 points level 3
500 points level 4
600 points level 5
750 points level 6
1000 points level 7
2000 points level 8
5000 points level 9
7500 points level 10
...

100 points level 1
200 points level 2
300 points level 3
500 points level 4
1000 points level 5 (1 person can get this once per day)
2500 points level 6 (1 person can get this every other day)
5000 points level 7 (1 person can get this every 4 days)
7500 points level 8 (1 person can get this every 8 days)
10000 points level 9 (1 person can get this every 16 days)
15000 points level 10 (1 person can get this once per month)
That's more like it for doom stealables, 100 pointds per level is too low, considering that higher level arti take so long to spawn. And each arti can only be gotten by one person in a specific time period, some take as long as a month before there is a chance to get another.

 

[RavenWinterHawk]

100 points level 1
200 points level 2
300 points level 3
500 points level 4
1000 points level 5 (1 person can get this once per day)
2500 points level 6 (1 person can get this every other day)
5000 points level 7 (1 person can get this every 4 days)
7500 points level 8 (1 person can get this every 8 days)
10000 points level 9 (1 person can get this every 16 days)
15000 points level 10 (1 person can get this once per month)
That's more like it for doom stealables, 100 pointds per level is too low, considering that higher level arti take so long to spawn. And each arti can only be gotten by one person in a specific time period, some take as long as a month before there is a chance to get another.

Oh. Good Info. I agree with this. I hope the devs notice.

 

[love2winalot]

Hail: They can adjust the points a little for the maps, but they can not post what the turn in list is, and then later remove items from that list. I did not, but several people here have posted that they bought items from other players to use as a turn in. How is that fair, if that item is now removed from the list?

I do not like even having a turn in system. And since the only item in the game that is totaly useless/worthless, "Moonstones", is not on the list, then this is not really a way to get useless items out of the game. Every other item can be used, or is deco.

How much stuff on that list have WE all thrown out over the years? If you are gonna have a turn in system, it needs to be like this........

In game items that still spawn: = Permanent turn in, and posted on main page as such.

Event Items: = Stop spawning after event is over, and turn in items at the next patch, "Not years later".

 

[Veganite]

And, again I make the plea....

1. Remove the T-maps, or require them to be completed maps. And, boost the point value in the library for maps - 20 for the library, for something that gives 1000 in the cleanup, is NUTS.

2. Remove the nets and SOS, and replace them with a flat turn-in point value for items with the "recovered from a shipwreck" title. or, how about leaving the normal SOS as a turn-in, and having ASOS as 1000 to 5000 point REWARDS????

3. Add the doom & tokuno Stealables. Heck, even 100 points per artifact level (up to Artifact level 9) would work.

The turn-ins on test serve only to wreck Treasure Hunters & fishers, and thumb its nose at one of the major sources of clutter, which are the stealables.

I disagree with you on removing T maps, nets and SOS bottles. They are the only thing I have. Without them I would have nothing to turn in.

 

[TramMoonWalker]

i do agree 10,000pts for any stealable is unbalanced. fabled net, tmap, etc.

just off the top of my head...
*add AOS roses and cloths(i often see many of these sold in vendor).
*who the hell turns in MIB for just 250pts, it could be an ASOS though.
*colored fishing nets should be more valuable.
*Big Fish!

 

[Basara]

Veganite:

My main thing about the T-maps, is that there is already a turn-in for the maps, and it gives ONLY 20 POINTS for level 6 maps, at the library. There shouldn't be any duplication of library & clean-up items, and the amount they are willing to give for the maps in the clean-up shows how badly they need to increase the value of the maps at the library.

I don't think the ASOS or MIBs should be able to be turned in at all; make it normal SOS, and have an already-opened ASOS as a claimable item, to allow fishers to turn in a bunch of normal ones to get a few good ones. OF course, I'm a bit biased in favor of SOS, as my best jewelry has consistently come from SOS chests (and not even the ancient ones).

As for nets, they are so easy to toss, and kill the spawn, I've never understood why people don't use the green nets they get at the end of their normal fishing trips, and be done with it. The colored ones I can see as turn-ins, but I've sold several of the colored ones at auctions in-game, and there's never a shortage of buyers for deco use. With such use, I can't see very many people parting with them, except maybe IDOC looters with way too many of them to sell.

 

[Hanna]

Originally Posted by Hanna
100 points level 1
200 points level 2
300 points level 3
500 points level 4
1000 points level 5 (1 person can get this once per day)
2500 points level 6 (1 person can get this every other day)
5000 points level 7 (1 person can get this every 4 days)
7500 points level 8 (1 person can get this every 8 days)
10000 points level 9 (1 person can get this every 16 days)
15000 points level 10 (1 person can get this once per month)
That's more like it for doom stealables, 100 pointds per level is too low, considering that higher level arti take so long to spawn. And each arti can only be gotten by one person in a specific time period, some take as long as a month before there is a chance to get another.

Oh. Good Info. I agree with this. I hope the devs notice.

Actually was thinking about it more and calculating the drop per person so I think my original post is too low too.

This would be more like it
250 points level 1
500 points level 2
1000 points level 3
2000 points level 4
4000 points level 5 (1 person can get this once per day [6 spawn a day])
8000 points level 6 (1 person can get this every other day [2 spawn a day])
12000 points level 7 (1 person can get this every 4 days [1 spawns per day])
16000 points level 8 (1 person can get this every 8 days [1 spawns every other day])
20000 points level 9 (1 person can get this every 16 days [1 spawn every 3 days])
30000 points level 10 (1 person can get this once per month [4 spawns per month])

 

[Oriana]

I started another thread about many of these same questions and thougts, so here they are again!


Add to it, I'm sure I'll miss something......

What's the point of being able to milk a cow?? I assume it has something to do with some *prays* cooking changes....so any hints?

Also on the turn-ins, Are you serious?? A level one artie basket or skull for 10k points??

Can you please change the deeded items ie the tiles, dragon heads ect, to being able to pick which way it goes on one deed instead of having to claim 2 deeds?

Just my opinion and I realize this is to save the rare ones, but can the nest with eggs get changed to light color eggs? Right now they look like a pile of poo unless really really squint. Maybe light blue or pink?

What is the purpose of the statuette engraving tool? Maybe I just haven't found it yet, or maybe there just isn't a way to test it yet.

Can we please get more clarification on what is considered a holiday item and how far back does it go?

How exactly does the house resizing work? I figured out to say I wish to resize my house near the sign, but instead of resizing it totally demolished it and I had to re start with the housing tool. Is that intended?

 

[Alvinho]

I just did some testing.. and it seems stealables CAN be turned in.. but.. something doesn't seem quite right with them... they all count as 10k points... i'm sorry, but I don't think a level 1 stealable is worth anywhere near that much.

There are probably near a hundred thousand or so of most of each of the types of stealables on each shard.. there's no way this can stay as is and be balanced.

Who did you turn them into, I tried testing this and to test fit some new rewards but cannot find anyone to take the artifacts

 

[TramMoonWalker]

goto music hall near wbb, the NPC for arti stands in front of the door.
the name is ... the collector. just drop an item on him/her.

 

[Azureal]

I started another thread about many of these same questions and thougts, so here they are again!


Add to it, I'm sure I'll miss something......

What's the point of being able to milk a cow?? I assume it has something to do with some *prays* cooking changes....so any hints?

Also on the turn-ins, Are you serious?? A level one artie basket or skull for 10k points??

Can you please change the deeded items ie the tiles, dragon heads ect, to being able to pick which way it goes on one deed instead of having to claim 2 deeds?

Just my opinion and I realize this is to save the rare ones, but can the nest with eggs get changed to light color eggs? Right now they look like a pile of poo unless really really squint. Maybe light blue or pink?

What is the purpose of the statuette engraving tool? Maybe I just haven't found it yet, or maybe there just isn't a way to test it yet.

Can we please get more clarification on what is considered a holiday item and how far back does it go?

How exactly does the house resizing work? I figured out to say I wish to resize my house near the sign, but instead of resizing it totally demolished it and I had to re start with the housing tool. Is that intended?

EA_Regine aka Lady Sakkarah already mentioned something wasnt right with this. The points values are wrong. Stealables will remain turn-in-able, but points values need to be adjusted.