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Tancred RedStar
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Below is a transcript of the Township Leadership Meeting on Dec 2, 2010:
Rivi Ravenwynd: Is this an in char or out of char meeting?
Celestial Knight: take it easy Drosse
EM Drosselmeyer: Out of character.
Rivi Ravenwynd: ty
EM Drosselmeyer: Please remain out of character for the duration.
Elder EM Dudley: Good evening everyone
Nastia Cross: Evening
Daria Blackmoore: hiya
Celestial Knight: Hello
Darth Oni: good evening
Elder EM Dudley: Firstly as Dross said
zanku: evening
Miss Watson: Hello
Jane Douleur: good evening
NANOC: Hail
Elder EM Dudley: This is completely out of character
Ozog Giantfart: aarp
Elder EM Dudley: This is us talking to us as Event Moderators
Elder EM Dudley: of Chesapeake
Elder EM Dudley: And what we'd wanted as the leaders of all the townships
Elder EM Dudley: Is there anyone here who does not have full authority over the township they represent?
Elder EM Dudley: As in is there someone you answer to?
Ozog Giantfart: we all report to citizens
Celestial Knight: ozog remove ur fishing pole like em Dross ask please.show respect
Elder EM Dudley: That's the other rule
Elder EM Dudley: Nobody but us speak until we say so
Elder EM Dudley: So I ask again
Elder EM Dudley: Is there anyone here who does not have full authority over the township they represent?
zanku: Jane of Aryslan
zanku: she is on the phone
Celestial Knight: okay raises hand
Elder EM Dudley: Yes?
Celestial Knight: excuse me sir
Celestial Knight: but m Dross ask them
Celestial Knight: to get intoo char
EM Drosselmeyer: out of character.
Celestial Knight: i do not need to be reminded of the rules
Daria Blackmoore: An Corp - Resurrection
Elder EM Dudley: I'm sorry?
Celestial Knight: thank you
Elder EM Dudley: Alright
Elder EM Dudley: As you are aware the purpose of this is to notify and discuss any questions
Elder EM Dudley: Regarding our decision in the township series of events
NANOC: *nods*
Elder EM Dudley: It was our intention that each township would be represented by the highest authority
Elder EM Dudley: Of each township
Elder EM Dudley: I.E. Guildmasters, Administrators
Elder EM Dudley: Anyone who is the #1 top banana
Almthu: Governor on his way
Elder EM Dudley: The point of this is we wanted to talk directly to the people in charge
Almthu: I will be leaving now
Elder EM Dudley: Thank you
Almthu: he will be here in 5 mins
Almthu: called him
Elder EM Dudley: Thank you
Elder EM Dudley: The reason is because we wanted to know who is ultimatley responsible for each township
Elder EM Dudley: And we want to talk to them
Elder EM Dudley: Go right to the top
Elder EM Dudley: Without any intermediary
You see: Winfield [Pax]
You see: Winfield [Pax]
Elder EM Dudley: The township series was born out of a concept on Baja
Miss Watson: KAV and Keys has a group of 4 active OOC Leaders
NANOC: The Governor has arrived
NANOC: Over here sir
NANOC: is your seat
Elder EM Dudley: Ok
Elder EM Dudley: I'm going to say it one more time
Elder EM Dudley: Until we say so, everyone please remain quiet
Elder EM Dudley: There will be a time for disucssion at the end
Elder EM Dudley: Please let us get this out
Elder EM Dudley: As I was saying
Elder EM Dudley: The Township Series was born out of a concept from Baja
Elder EM Dudley: That started during an event EM Seppo ran
Elder EM Dudley: That allowed player run towns to declare allegiance during the Casca Arc
Elder EM Dudley: That system included a banner that decreed allegiance
Elder EM Dudley: The concept then went to Catskills
Elder EM Dudley: And then to here
Elder EM Dudley: The concept was fostered on the predication that it be a system that enhances community
Elder EM Dudley: By bringing together people with common goals
Elder EM Dudley: And common beliefs
Elder EM Dudley: And allowing a way to identify that group discretely
Elder EM Dudley: And allow them to interact better with EM storylines
Elder EM Dudley: My how we have strayed from this
Elder EM Dudley: There is no one person to blame
Elder EM Dudley: Everyone is responsible, including us
Elder EM Dudley: A big part of it is that we were moving into uncharted territory
Elder EM Dudley: And were dealing with some of the most basic human instincts
Elder EM Dudley: Especially when it came to the actual construction of the banners themselves
Elder EM Dudley: Without spending ten minutes reliving the entirity of where it failed
Elder EM Dudley: Let us simply say that the current state, as it came to a pinhead last month
Elder EM Dudley: Is not something we are willing to continue with
Elder EM Dudley: And devote our time to
Elder EM Dudley: It was our first impulse to simply cancel the series entirely
Elder EM Dudley: But we decided that would not be fair
Elder EM Dudley: To the hard work that everyone has put in
Elder EM Dudley: And it wouldn't be fair to ignore the small amount of good that came out of this
Elder EM Dudley: Townships have been given an prilege in this system
Elder EM Dudley: What we have seen is a sense of entitlement that is strangling out any good from this
Elder EM Dudley: Instead of treating the system and it's gifts as the blessing they were
Elder EM Dudley: It became an arena for unwanted drama
Elder EM Dudley: Despite the fact that Townships have been given events cetnered aroun them, somethin no other
Elder EM Dudley: Portion of the community has, it became a sounding board of
Elder EM Dudley: Township X got an event before Township Z and Township Y got two events
Elder EM Dudley: And Township C hasn't gotten any
Elder EM Dudley: this particular example was very nearly the cause of the entire cessation of all township events in
Elder EM Dudley: And we are trying to be extremely clear here
Elder EM Dudley: There are no favorites on Chesapeake
Elder EM Dudley: When we did the events centered at a township, they were done so on one of two basises
Elder EM Dudley: The first was on what made sense from a story perspective
Elder EM Dudley: And the second was, every township was given an equal chance
Elder EM Dudley: In terms of random spawnings with no warning
Elder EM Dudley: But yet there is still a sense of distrust
Elder EM Dudley: THat we, the EMs who are completely unbiased
Elder EM Dudley: Were some how foster an atmosphere of favoritism and pandering
Elder EM Dudley: We don't care how old a township is
Elder EM Dudley: We don't care how big a township is
Elder EM Dudley: We want to tell a story here, and the townships were meant to be involved with that in a way th
Elder EM Dudley: Going to be a bit above and beyond the aspects of the events
Elder EM Dudley: The orcs, the Undead
Elder EM Dudley: These all started at one township as the story directed
Elder EM Dudley: And then were moved on to the random spawning categories
Elder EM Dudley: All of the townships were going to be dealt with in this fashion
Elder EM Dudley: Until all had been involved
Elder EM Dudley: As a jumping off point of story related monster
Elder EM Dudley: But the bickering and finger pointing and general banality we saw as a response
Elder EM Dudley: Stalled us to the point that instead of trying something that promised to be engaging
Elder EM Dudley: And inventive, became a great headache to deal with
Elder EM Dudley: Taking us away from our actual duties as EMs
Elder EM Dudley: Which is to advance storylines through events
Elder EM Dudley: And to provide entertainment
Elder EM Dudley: The only solution was to eliminate it entirely before you all let it tear yourselves apart
Elder EM Dudley: Quite frankly
Elder EM Dudley: The point that the series had gotten to was absurd
Elder EM Dudley: We don't care if you like each other
Elder EM Dudley: In fact it's more fun if you don't like everyone in Roleplay
Darth Oni: *raises a brow*
Elder EM Dudley: It provides conflict, but the point of roleplay is to have fun and that point is being egregiously
Elder EM Dudley: overlooked
Elder EM Dudley: You have to channel things into an IC fashion so that they can be productive instead of destructiv
Elder EM Dudley: I can dislike someone OOC but still tolerate them IC
Elder EM Dudley: Just like in real life you don't always like people you have to work iwth
Elder EM Dudley: You still have to work with them
Elder EM Dudley: The people on the shard may not be people you like, but you are on the shard with them regardles
Elder EM Dudley: And the BEST and ONLY way to move forward as a shard is to try and let all this petty nonsen
Elder EM Dudley: Nonsense fall by the wayside
Elder EM Dudley: And focus on the game
Elder EM Dudley: Have fun
Elder EM Dudley: Join the events
Elder EM Dudley: Every single thing will be centered on you, your group, your township
Elder EM Dudley: Your friends townships
Elder EM Dudley: Or even anything you're always interested in
Elder EM Dudley: So just hang on, and we PROMISE when we do these things we are looking at how the best way t
Elder EM Dudley: Balanced and unbiased is on all levels
Elder EM Dudley: We are here for the Shard's benefit
Elder EM Dudley: And if these township series casue the Shard and its Community to have strife and grief between
Elder EM Dudley: Each other
Elder EM Dudley: The answer is very simple
Elder EM Dudley: And that is to remove the township series entirely and focus on events that everyone can enjoy
Elder EM Dudley: Without causing this sort of strife
Elder EM Dudley: That being said...
Elder EM Dudley: And before we allow you a chance for questions
Elder EM Dudley: Firstly
Elder EM Dudley: We will be finishing the livery quest
Elder EM Dudley: Whether we explore further attempts at township enhancement
Elder EM Dudley: Through the addition of future structures
Elder EM Dudley: Will be determined as we move forward
Elder EM Dudley: And continue to evaluate the series from this point on
Elder EM Dudley: Secondly
Elder EM Dudley: We will not be continuing with the Summit meetings as they existed previously
Elder EM Dudley: We found that nobody was really getting anything out of them
Elder EM Dudley: And it was becoming an arena for people to foster some of the destructive behaviors
Elder EM Dudley: I just spoke about
Elder EM Dudley: Thirdly
Elder EM Dudley: As far as the EM Staff (Us) is concerned
Elder EM Dudley: From this point forward
Elder EM Dudley: We will be dealing with the townships on a completely in character basis
Elder EM Dudley: This means
Elder EM Dudley: That every township shall have a defined leader
Elder EM Dudley: One person
Elder EM Dudley: Whether you have 30 behind the scenes
Elder EM Dudley: That are handling that one person
Elder EM Dudley: Is your business
Elder EM Dudley: We don't want to know about it
Elder EM Dudley: The other townships don't need to know about it as far as these events are concerned
Elder EM Dudley: There needs to be one person
Elder EM Dudley: Who is accountable for the actions of that township
Elder EM Dudley: On an In character basis
Elder EM Dudley: Finally
Elder EM Dudley: And this is the most important
Elder EM Dudley: Should we find out that anyone
Elder EM Dudley: Is propagating any of the behavior we have seen in the past
Elder EM Dudley: If Mesanna, myself or Dross have to get bogged down in some drama
Elder EM Dudley: Between any townships
Elder EM Dudley: On any topic
Elder EM Dudley: We are cancelling the series permanently
Elder EM Dudley: If you have problems with people out of character
Elder EM Dudley: Figure out amongst yourselves
Elder EM Dudley: We are all adults here
Elder EM Dudley: And it is not our job, it is certainly not Mesanna's job
Elder EM Dudley: To mediate between you
Elder EM Dudley: If you can't figure out a way to determine an outcome In Character
Elder EM Dudley: Or settel a dispute in character
Elder EM Dudley: Then we don't want to here about ti
Elder EM Dudley: Hear even
Elder EM Dudley: That's all we've got
Elder EM Dudley: If anyone has any questions
Celestial Knight: raise hand
Jane Douleur: Yes
Tancred RedStar: *raises hand*
Elder EM Dudley: Now is the time
Elder EM Dudley: We will go around the room
Elder EM Dudley: If anyone interjects
Elder EM Dudley: While another person is talking
Elder EM Dudley: You will be removed
Elder EM Dudley: And absolutely no finger pointing
Elder EM Dudley: Of any sort
Elder EM Dudley: If it is not a question about how the EMs will deal with YOUR township
Elder EM Dudley: Do not ask it
Elder EM Dudley: As far as you should be concerned
Elder EM Dudley: It's only us in the room
Elder EM Dudley: Nobody else is here
Elder EM Dudley: We will begin with Celestial Knight
Celestial Knight: yes sir
Celestial Knight: Actions loyalty is to Queen Dawn >if the banner is more trouble
Celestial Knight: please remove it i been a guidl lkeadernow for 15 years
Celestial Knight: i do not need it
Celestial Knight: thank you
Elder EM Dudley: If you would like the banner removed
Elder EM Dudley: You can email us
Celestial Knight: thank you
Elder EM Dudley: Nastia Cross?
Nastia Cross: I have no comments at this time sirs
Elder EM Dudley: Rivi Ravenwynd?
Nyx: In Vas Mani Hur
Rivi Ravenwynd: Are there requirements for my township to remain? like events or mtgs
Elder EM Dudley: As we move forward
Elder EM Dudley: We will be provide events for townships to participate in
Elder EM Dudley: Along those same lines
Elder EM Dudley: The Banner system was a way to enhance the community
Elder EM Dudley: You will be expected to do so to some degree
Elder EM Dudley: It doesn't have to be an event
Elder EM Dudley: But simply being will not be justification for a banner
Elder EM Dudley: Or a spot in the hub
Elder EM Dudley: These aren't decorations
Elder EM Dudley: It's a symbol of a promise to the community
Elder EM Dudley: And your committment to it
Elder EM Dudley: Whatever that may be
Elder EM Dudley: Anything else?
Rivi Ravenwynd: will a list of things that will be expected from a township be made available
Elder EM Dudley: Yes
Elder EM Dudley: Like we said
Rivi Ravenwynd: ty
EM Drosselmeyer: When that is decided, it will be very clearly explained.
Rivi Ravenwynd: one more
Elder EM Dudley: We are handling it on an in character basis
Elder EM Dudley: Yes?
Rivi Ravenwynd: i understand the need to be vague about behaviors that are destructive
Rivi Ravenwynd: but I want to make sure that we dont violate them and I am unclear on what is being referred to
Rivi Ravenwynd: todoay
Rivi Ravenwynd: today
Elder EM Dudley: What we are referring to is any action or behavior
Elder EM Dudley: From one township to another
Elder EM Dudley: That is not an in character action
Elder EM Dudley: Or based in some roleplayed scenario
Elder EM Dudley: If you can't operate along those terms
Elder EM Dudley: If you can't keep it IN THE GAME
Elder EM Dudley: Do not speak to each other
Elder EM Dudley: Because like we said, if it gets back to us again
Elder EM Dudley: We will no longer continue to support the series
Rivi Ravenwynd: ty that is all i have in my head right now
Elder EM Dudley: Nyx?
Nyx: umm
Nyx: In Vas Mani Hur
Nyx: In Vas Mani Hur
Nyx: Speaking in global chat about someone or fighting and calling ppl noobs will or will not be tolerated?
Daria Blackmoore: :}
Nyx: An Nox - Cure
Nyx: I mean I am on nyx alot
Nyx: and I do not rp per say
Nyx: I am just me
EM Drosselmeyer: Alright, the big thing we are talking about here is destructive attitudes and behavoirs
EM Drosselmeyer: Towards other townships and the like
EM Drosselmeyer: Like we said
EM Drosselmeyer: We don't care if you dont like someone
EM Drosselmeyer: You can hate them
EM Drosselmeyer: But There's no need to air it out in public for the world to see
Miss Watson: *raises hand*
EM Drosselmeyer: And there's especially no reason to air it out to or at us
EM Drosselmeyer: We aren't your teachers. We aren't here to be group therapists
EM Drosselmeyer: We're here to run events, and the bottom line is this;
EM Drosselmeyer: If the township events cause you all to bicker and squabble
EM Drosselmeyer: we won't do them
EM Drosselmeyer: I know that things can get heated, and people can have issues
EM Drosselmeyer: I've had plenty with players before
EM Drosselmeyer: But I keep it to myself, try to work it out with the other person
EM Drosselmeyer: If that fails
EM Drosselmeyer: I just let it go, and do my best not to pay them attention
EM Drosselmeyer: Only you can let someone else get to you
EM Drosselmeyer: On the specifics about name calling in general chat
EM Drosselmeyer: During events, it is never called for.
Nyx: if we are not at an event
EM Drosselmeyer: And as townships, people should look to you all as examples
EM Drosselmeyer: You're being given privileges that no other subsection is given
EM Drosselmeyer: So we expect you to act accordingly
EM Drosselmeyer: If you're out in felucca on some random day and fighting
EM Drosselmeyer: And you tell someone they're a terrible fighter
EM Drosselmeyer: Are we going to pull the plug on you?
EM Drosselmeyer: No
EM Drosselmeyer: If you are at an event and start a big argument for no reason with other townships
EM Drosselmeyer: and pepper it with biting insults are we going to take you to task for it?
EM Drosselmeyer: Yes.
EM Drosselmeyer: If you aren't prepared to take responsibility for your actions, don't commit the actions.
EM Drosselmeyer: Did that answer your question?
Nyx: yup fel is fair game
Nyx: ty
EM Drosselmeyer: It's not just fel
EM Drosselmeyer: We don't care what you do on your personal time
Nyx: In Vas Mani Hur
EM Drosselmeyer: Heck, you can argue and fight in private all you want
EM Drosselmeyer: But the moment it bleeds over into the game and affects the events and the shard as a whole?
EM Drosselmeyer: That's when it's our problem.
Nyx: well if I say something in global I am usually in fel
EM Drosselmeyer: Did you have any other questions?
Nyx: no ty
Elder EM Dudley: Daria?
Daria Blackmoore: Aye
Daria Blackmoore: More of a staement really
Daria Blackmoore: Just wanna ty for the opportunity ya'll given us for one
Daria Blackmoore: I know it's wearing on ya'll obviusly
Daria Blackmoore: At one time
Daria Blackmoore: Everyone oof us
Daria Blackmoore: supported each others events and township
Daria Blackmoore: unfortunately
Daria Blackmoore: that was before this eries began
Daria Blackmoore: series even
Daria Blackmoore: I cant say i hold disregard for anyone in this room
Daria Blackmoore: or thier guilds etc
Daria Blackmoore: Just hope in time we can get back to that point
Elder EM Dudley: So do we
Daria Blackmoore: above the smog we dwell in as of now
Daria Blackmoore: I am ashamed it has gone this far
Daria Blackmoore: that is all for me
Daria Blackmoore: ty
Elder EM Dudley: Winfield?
Tancred RedStar: uh
Elder EM Dudley: Oops
Elder EM Dudley: I mean Tancred
Tancred RedStar: I know he looks prettier
Winfield: *nods*
Tancred RedStar: anyway
Elder EM Dudley: Your cape blends in the floor
Elder EM Dudley: *grins*
Tancred RedStar: I apologize for any of the negativity I have contributed that led us here tonight
Tancred RedStar: I apologize to both of you
Tancred RedStar: and to each member of the community
Tancred RedStar: I know I've said some stuff that was not stellar
Tancred RedStar: Ive realized some of it was wrong
Tancred RedStar: and have tried to change things for the better
Tancred RedStar: most all the people in this room
Tancred RedStar: have known each other in some capacity
Tancred RedStar: for years and years
Tancred RedStar: surely we can be better than we are now
Tancred RedStar: I will try to do my best
Tancred RedStar: I humbly ask the same of all of you
Tancred RedStar: one more thing
Elder EM Dudley: Sure
Tancred RedStar: should a person act on behalf of their town
Tancred RedStar: and "ruin" it for everyone
Tancred RedStar: how could that be fair to cancel said events for all?
Tancred RedStar: why not just sanction either them personally or their town?
Tancred RedStar: maybe lead to new town election?
EM Drosselmeyer: Simply put, there's no simple answer here; But in these cases..
EM Drosselmeyer: It's almost never a single person causing or acting on these feelings and the like
Darth Oni: *raises a brow*
EM Drosselmeyer: If some rogue element in your guild or township decides to try and ruin things
EM Drosselmeyer: Then it's up to you as a guild/township to excise that person
Tancred RedStar: I see
EM Drosselmeyer: A guild must take responsibility for those in it's membership
EM Drosselmeyer: If there is a singular incident, it will be handled on its own on a singular basis
Elder EM Dudley: The important thing to realize
EM Drosselmeyer: But if it becomese widespread we will not hesitate to eliminate the series as the source.
Tancred RedStar: thank you
Elder EM Dudley: We are here to put on events to better the community, especially in this case
Elder EM Dudley: If it becomes that we cannot achieve that goal
Elder EM Dudley: We will take the appropriate action
Elder EM Dudley: Also do not mistake this for us saying we will get in the middle of any disputes
Elder EM Dudley: If you can't work it out between yourselves
Elder EM Dudley: Just stop interacting with each other
Elder EM Dudley: If that is the only solution to keep the peace do it
Elder EM Dudley: We simply do not have the time or energy to police everyone
Elder EM Dudley: And that is not our responsibility to the shard
Elder EM Dudley: That's your responsibility as township leaders
Elder EM Dudley: And if it can't be resolved IC and amicably OC
Elder EM Dudley: If it gets too out of hand
Elder EM Dudley: Just walk away from one another
Elder EM Dudley: Anything else Tancred?
Tancred RedStar: mmm
Tancred RedStar: that's all for now, thank you again
Elder EM Dudley: Winfield?
Winfield: I have a comment and question if I may.
Elder EM Dudley: Proceed
Winfield: I applaud your courage to bring these issues to us, as the town leaders here.
Winfield: To fill us in on your frustrations and your approach to help us.
Winfield: I thank you for your frankness.
Winfield: For years we've had towns and major establishments.
Winfield: As we all know, with or without an EM townships series, our towns and establishments will continue.
Winfield: We've had towns since early days
Winfield: and since then there was plenty of OOC jealousy and backstabbing. It is a competitive nature here,
Winfield: even though it was destructive.
Winfield: I hope from this day forward, we learn from our faults of recent and past and do better.
Winfield: I know I learn all the time.
Winfield: My question is about the RP nature now.
Elder EM Dudley: Ok
Winfield: I love the idea of townships being completely inchar as a town.
Winfield: dealing with each other, the crown, the guard, etc.
Winfield: This is what I hoped for in the series.
Winfield: And my question is, will we be able to have a better feeling
Winfield: of the presense of the Crown, or the Guard in the realm, without having to
Winfield: even get on messageforums and such? I know it is hard with limited EM staff.
Elder EM Dudley: That is our hope
Winfield: But maybe thought can be made for that... drop notes in the Queens box.
Elder EM Dudley: Our main focus is being in game
Winfield: I don't see this HOC hall as In Char at all, so I recommend using the Castle Britain or near there.
Winfield: Thank you, and listens now.
Elder EM Dudley: And doing stuff in game
Elder EM Dudley: The mechanics of our world are sometimes limiting
Elder EM Dudley: And it's just easier to get information out through various resources
Elder EM Dudley: I also finally decided to become a grownup
Elder EM Dudley: And by a grownup phone
NANOC: *chuckles*
Elder EM Dudley: Buy even
Elder EM Dudley: With more bells and whistles then my first PC
Elder EM Dudley: So we are pretty much on top of everything
Elder EM Dudley: And I always monitor the various modes of communication
Elder EM Dudley: This allows us more time to do stuff in game
Elder EM Dudley: And cuts down on teh out of game setup
Elder EM Dudley: So it is our hope that by taking this entire series
Elder EM Dudley: Exclusively In Character
Elder EM Dudley: It will be better all around
EM Drosselmeyer: Also, don't worry about the fact that many of you have townships that aren't aligned with the cro
EM Drosselmeyer: crown. One reason we work to make new and compelling characters is for their future usefulness
EM Drosselmeyer: While those with the crown can expect the Guard and the Crown's ambassadors/envoys
EM Drosselmeyer: Everyone can expect certain sets of RPC's, such as the Gypsies
EM Drosselmeyer: Who were and are still going to be a continuing thing here on Chesapeake
EM Drosselmeyer: And there will be anti crown RPC's as well for those against the crown.
EM Drosselmeyer: Anything else, Winfield?
Winfield: Nothing else, thanks.
EM Drosselmeyer: Nanoc?
NANOC: No questions at this time I believe the others are doing a fine job *smiles* as well as you
EM Drosselmeyer: Thank you
NANOC: Dudley and Dross
Elder EM Dudley: Thankee
EM Drosselmeyer: Zanku?
zanku: yes sir
EM Drosselmeyer: Any questions or comments you wish to relay?
zanku: well, I know from our end as a township
zanku: we enjoy the events alot
zanku: the only question i have
zanku: is
zanku: if we as a township are doing an event
zanku: and we have one opf our menbers that gets out of line
zanku: how do we handkle it while the event is going on?
zanku: I am
zanku: refering to an instance that occured at the caravan event
zanku: if that was one of our own, how would we handle that there?
Elder EM Dudley: That is entirely up to you as the guild leader
Elder EM Dudley: We aren't going to cancel the series
Elder EM Dudley: Because one person at an event acted like a donkey
Elder EM Dudley: Some of your fellow Township Leaders
Elder EM Dudley: Have years of experience dealing with Guilds
Elder EM Dudley: So you could always ask some of them for advice
Elder EM Dudley: I was a pretty cutrhoat guild leader
zanku:
Elder EM Dudley: Based on the situation
Elder EM Dudley: I'd likely have them hanged or imprisoned
Darth Oni: o
Elder EM Dudley: But that's just me
zanku: me to
Elder EM Dudley: Anything else?
zanku: no sir and thank you
Elder EM Dudley: Ozog?
Ozog Giantfart: kins wees still bites and pees on people?
Elder EM Dudley: So long as it isn't us
Elder EM Dudley: *grins*
EM Drosselmeyer: Also
EM Drosselmeyer: IC actions are okay
EM Drosselmeyer: Like we said, we expect conflict between people
EM Drosselmeyer: It's natural
Ozog Giantfart: okilies
EM Drosselmeyer: If you're tryikng to tell a story, there need sto be a conflict
Ozog Giantfart: girkle
EM Drosselmeyer: But KEEP IT IN CHARACTER.
EM Drosselmeyer: For example
EM Drosselmeyer: Gwen will insult and grumble and sigh exasperatedly at people all the time
EM Drosselmeyer: but it's all in character
EM Drosselmeyer: If you keep it in character, you can still have these conflicts
Ozog Giantfart: yerg
EM Drosselmeyer: And NOT cause a big scene or problem with people
EM Drosselmeyer: Like we said about the profanity issue with us
EM Drosselmeyer: It's about respect more than anything
EM Drosselmeyer: Provided you treat people right ooc, most IC things are fine.
Ozog Giantfart: meees only cusses in goblin
EM Drosselmeyer: Some players hate orcs, some hate humans, some hate elves, some hate goblins, etc
Ozog Giantfart: MEN GHEC AN
EM Drosselmeyer: That's fine; That's part of roleplaying
EM Drosselmeyer: Just don't let it bleed over to OOC stuff
EM Drosselmeyer: Simple as that.
EM Drosselmeyer: I've been a roleplayer in UO for as long as I can remember
EM Drosselmeyer: Some of the most fun I've had were big IC fights and arguments, that despite our CHARACTERS
EM Drosselmeyer: By the end hating each others guts, We as PLAYERS were laughing and having fun.
Ozog Giantfart: yerg
EM Drosselmeyer: Did you have anything else?
Ozog Giantfart: nerg
Elder EM Dudley: Oni?
Ozog Giantfart: girkle
Darth Oni: aye
Darth Oni: what kind of event we can expect..
Darth Oni: or allowed to ask yas?
Darth Oni: for example...
Darth Oni: i still have the playground that vladimere builded up ffor use
Darth Oni: for my knight games
Darth Oni: i'm sadly cant host at momtn trouing
Darth Oni: short game time...
Darth Oni: *touring
Darth Oni: its still for use?
Elder EM Dudley: If there are events you would like support for
Elder EM Dudley: You can email us and we will work with you to help
Elder EM Dudley: That stuff you can still feel free to use
Elder EM Dudley: As far as our arc events
Elder EM Dudley: Events that advance the story
Elder EM Dudley: We will take aspects and fold them into the story
Elder EM Dudley: You can then take it back to your township and do what you wish with it
Elder EM Dudley: Our storyline will progress as we already plan
Elder EM Dudley: What you can do is take it back to your township
Elder EM Dudley: And do what you'd like to do with it
Darth Oni: k
Elder EM Dudley: Anything else?
Darth Oni: thank you
Darth Oni: not right now...
Elder EM Dudley: Miss Watson?
Darth Oni: most is allrdy answered
Darth Oni: *smiles*
Miss Watson: I have no comment or questions at this time
Elder EM Dudley: Demon Slayer?
Demon Slayer: so most townships need to complete just 1 more livery quest to get a stablemaster right ?
Darth Oni: *shakes head*
Elder EM Dudley: Some do
Elder EM Dudley: I wouldn't say most
Demon Slayer: ok
Elder EM Dudley: They won't be built until late December/January
Elder EM Dudley: Anything else?
Demon Slayer: no thank you
Elder EM Dudley: Jane?
Jane Douleur: I have a comment and a question
Elder EM Dudley: Ok
Jane Douleur: the comment is, it is a shame that the indiscretions of a few led to all to be punished
Jane Douleur: i am "old school" RP where we had to create everything
Jane Douleur: perhaps the gifts are too much of a focus, and maybe going back to barebones is the way to go
Jane Douleur: question is, are we still able to email for assistance with town events?
Elder EM Dudley: Yes
Jane Douleur: thank you
Elder EM Dudley: Please be aware though
Elder EM Dudley: That we won't be honoring requests for individual fiction event support
Elder EM Dudley: Instead we will fold those requests
Elder EM Dudley: Into the township event series
Jane Douleur: i am refering to the blood regatta
Elder EM Dudley: For contests and festivals
Elder EM Dudley: You can email us
Elder EM Dudley: And we will do our best to accomodate
Jane Douleur: excellent, thanks
Elder EM Dudley: Was there anything else?
Jane Douleur: no thank you for clearing this up for us all
Elder EM Dudley: Thakria?
Thakria: not at this time sirs thank you
Elder EM Dudley: Alright
Elder EM Dudley: Before you all depart
Elder EM Dudley: Two things
Elder EM Dudley: Firstly
Elder EM Dudley: We need to know the primary leader of each township
Elder EM Dudley: For most townships it is who sits here tonight
Elder EM Dudley: But for others who sent representatives
Elder EM Dudley: We need to know who is in charge
Elder EM Dudley: Please deposit a book in the mailbox outside
Jane Douleur: Jamlyn is in charge of Aryslan
Elder EM Dudley: With that information
Elder EM Dudley: Secondly, Dross has some books
Darth Oni: phew...
Rivi Ravenwynd: one more question please *raises hand*
Jane Douleur: thanks
Elder EM Dudley: Yes Rivi?
Rivi Ravenwynd: Will the HOC mtgs remain OOC
Elder EM Dudley: Yes
Elder EM Dudley: The HoC Meetings are always Out of Character
Elder EM Dudley: And will continue forever
Rivi Ravenwynd: so that ppl can give feedback freely without consequences to the townhip or the series
Elder EM Dudley: No matter what
EM Drosselmeyer: Constructive criticism is always welcome
Elder EM Dudley: Aye
Rivi Ravenwynd: great ty
Nyx: An Nox - Cure
EM Drosselmeyer: Also
Elder EM Dudley: Operative word being Constructive
Elder EM Dudley: The event sucked is not constructive
Rivi Ravenwynd: yes i know
EM Drosselmeyer: Exactly
Elder EM Dudley: Nobody here has an issue with that
Rivi Ravenwynd: but punisghing a towship or the series fora person stating occc opinion
Elder EM Dudley: We value feedback from each of you
Elder EM Dudley: No, that won't be the case
Rivi Ravenwynd: kk ty
Rivi Ravenwynd: I am done
Rivi Ravenwynd: ty
EM Drosselmeyer: As for the books
EM Drosselmeyer: The books I meant were the ones that vanished at the collapse of the castle
EM Drosselmeyer: From the Storming the Gates event
EM Drosselmeyer: Though I don't always do it, I try to keep a spare copy of most in game fiction for such occasion
EM Drosselmeyer: So if anyone wanted to make copies, I will leave them here for a short time
Jane Douleur: thanks
Elder EM Dudley: We'll set em out at the HoC as well
Daria Blackmoore: Perhaps a permanant home at the shard reward hall
Daria Blackmoore: a lil library section be good reading!~
NANOC: Good idea Daria
EM Drosselmeyer: That's a good suggestion, and we'll look into it
EM Drosselmeyer: Any other questions?
Tancred RedStar: aye
Elder EM Dudley: Tancred?
Tancred RedStar: would it possible to have a meeting like this every few months
Tancred RedStar: so ew can talk straight without distractions
zanku:
Nastia Cross: *nods*
Tancred RedStar: leader to leader
Elder EM Dudley: That's what our plan is
Tancred RedStar: etc
Tancred RedStar: ok great
Winfield: *raises hand*
Elder EM Dudley: The Summit meetings were becoming a bit cumbersome
Elder EM Dudley: The major difference
Tancred RedStar: they were turning into a stage
Elder EM Dudley: Will be that any future meeting will be In Character
Elder EM Dudley: With an RPC
Elder EM Dudley: We won't be bringing everyone together
Elder EM Dudley: To hash out our concerns about OC behavior
Ozog Giantfart: which mailbox?
Elder EM Dudley: If we get to that point again
Elder EM Dudley: The main one outside
Elder EM Dudley: The series will be cancelled
Elder EM Dudley: Anyone else?
EM Drosselmeyer: Intruder!
Winfield: I have a question.
Elder EM Dudley: Yes?
Winfield: For the primary leader for these books,
Ozog Giantfart: putem in basement
Winfield: do you mean the leader In Character, or OOC?
Elder EM Dudley: I ban thee
You see: Clement the gypsy
Winfield: Our mayor of PaxLair City is an orc.
Elder EM Dudley: OOC
Winfield: He is the leader, but does not go to meetings.
EM Drosselmeyer: The person who is RESPONSIBLE for the townships actions.
Elder EM Dudley: Yes
Winfield: I represent PaxLair City therefore as it's governor.
Winfield: For OOC actions or in-char actions?
Winfield: I know, it hurts our heads.
Elder EM Dudley: If you want to do both that's fine
EM Drosselmeyer: Actually, if anyone already put theirs in
EM Drosselmeyer: and they have one person for OOC, one person for IC
Winfield: Will just be me for PaxLair city for now. But if Ga'kuct shows up, he's the Mayor in character.
EM Drosselmeyer: Then please put another book in with both; thinking about it , it will assist us with RPC...
Winfield: I understand. We'll make it work.
Elder EM Dudley: We are basically trying to get a sense of who administrats your township
Winfield: Thanks.
Winfield: That would be me.
Winfield: Thanks.
Jane Douleur: question please
Elder EM Dudley: A good way to put it is...
Elder EM Dudley: If you look up and there is nobody above you
Elder EM Dudley: That's the name we'd want
Elder EM Dudley: yes Jane?
Jane Douleur: in Aryslans case
Jane Douleur: Jam could not be here
Jane Douleur: we do not want to miss out on this information
Jane Douleur: should you be emailed prior should the leader be absent?
Darth Oni: *rasies hand*
Nyx: In Vas Mani Hur
Nyx: In Vas Mani Hur
Nastia Cross: *raises hand*
Elder EM Dudley: From here on out
Elder EM Dudley: These will be in character dealings
Elder EM Dudley: So we don't care who shows up
Elder EM Dudley: For the purposes of out of character administration
Elder EM Dudley: That's what we'd like to know
Jane Douleur: ok
Elder EM Dudley: Oni?
Ozog Giantfart: oh goos da whole mob kin comes
Darth Oni: was close same asking...
Darth Oni: cuz since me living
Darth Oni: in germany
Darth Oni: i nto always can make it
Darth Oni: *not
Elder EM Dudley: I hear there was a bad snowstorm in Germany
Darth Oni: aye
NANOC: *laughs*
NANOC: she has been shoveling for 2 days now
Darth Oni: and i had to snow shipp!
Darth Oni: *nods*
Elder EM Dudley: Two of my coworkers were delayed on a flight to South Africa
Elder EM Dudley: I do hope everything turns out alright
Darth Oni: *chuckles*
Darth Oni: well..
Elder EM Dudley: But yes, you can send representatives
Nyx: In Vas Mani Hur
Elder EM Dudley: To the In Charcter proceedings in the future
Elder EM Dudley: Nastia?
Nyx: In Vas Mani Hur
Darth Oni: ok thx
Nastia Cross: I just wanted to mention
Nastia Cross: that both IC and OOC we have a council of leaders
Nastia Cross: so IC the interactions we would include the council
Nastia Cross: is that within parameters?
Elder EM Dudley: Yes
Nyx: In Vas Mani Hur
Nyx: In Vas Mani Hur
Nastia Cross: Thanks
Nyx: In Vas Mani Hur
Elder EM Dudley: Anyone else?
Elder EM Dudley: Did anyone records this ?
Elder EM Dudley: Record even?
Tancred RedStar: I have in journal
Tancred RedStar: is it ok to post or prefer I dont?
Daria Blackmoore: tis all in me head!
Elder EM Dudley: Could you please forward it to both of us
Daria Blackmoore: lol
Elder EM Dudley: It's free knowledge
Elder EM Dudley: We aren't trying to keep secrets here
Tancred RedStar: ok
Elder EM Dudley: We just wanted to extend the courtesty to the leadership first
Tancred RedStar: I will have to edit out all the dirty jokes in alliance chat first
Elder EM Dudley: Of informing them of our decision
Elder EM Dudley: Before the general populace
Jane Douleur: haha
Elder EM Dudley: *grins*
Ozog Giantfart: girkle
Elder EM Dudley: But yes, feel free to post
Tancred RedStar: ok
NANOC: Thank you
Elder EM Dudley: And if you could send to both of us that would be greatly appreciated
Tancred RedStar: I shall
Daria Blackmoore: heck send it my way to
Daria Blackmoore: i will never remember
Daria Blackmoore: *chuckles*
Ozog Giantfart: kins meees habe my stool?
Tancred RedStar: want fries with that?
Elder EM Dudley: *grins*
Daria Blackmoore: a lil shake too woot
Elder EM Dudley: Thank you all for attending
Tancred RedStar: I will
Elder EM Dudley: We look forward to the future
Nastia Cross: No, thank you
NANOC: Thank you both for the fine job and dedication you give to Chessy
Winfield: Thanks Dudley and Dross.
Elder EM Dudley: You are most welcome
Elder EM Dudley: G'nite everyone
Nastia Cross: Night
Jane Douleur: nite
Ozog Giantfart: *tugs ha ha hat*
Miss Watson: Good night
EM Drosselmeyer: Thank you all and take care
Elder EM Dudley: *jingle jingle*
zanku: yes , thank you and hope to have these meetings again
Elder EM Dudley: *jingle*
Rivi Ravenwynd: Is this an in char or out of char meeting?
Celestial Knight: take it easy Drosse
EM Drosselmeyer: Out of character.
Rivi Ravenwynd: ty
EM Drosselmeyer: Please remain out of character for the duration.
Elder EM Dudley: Good evening everyone
Nastia Cross: Evening
Daria Blackmoore: hiya
Celestial Knight: Hello
Darth Oni: good evening
Elder EM Dudley: Firstly as Dross said
zanku: evening
Miss Watson: Hello
Jane Douleur: good evening
NANOC: Hail
Elder EM Dudley: This is completely out of character
Ozog Giantfart: aarp
Elder EM Dudley: This is us talking to us as Event Moderators
Elder EM Dudley: of Chesapeake
Elder EM Dudley: And what we'd wanted as the leaders of all the townships
Elder EM Dudley: Is there anyone here who does not have full authority over the township they represent?
Elder EM Dudley: As in is there someone you answer to?
Ozog Giantfart: we all report to citizens
Celestial Knight: ozog remove ur fishing pole like em Dross ask please.show respect
Elder EM Dudley: That's the other rule
Elder EM Dudley: Nobody but us speak until we say so
Elder EM Dudley: So I ask again
Elder EM Dudley: Is there anyone here who does not have full authority over the township they represent?
zanku: Jane of Aryslan
zanku: she is on the phone
Celestial Knight: okay raises hand
Elder EM Dudley: Yes?
Celestial Knight: excuse me sir
Celestial Knight: but m Dross ask them
Celestial Knight: to get intoo char
EM Drosselmeyer: out of character.
Celestial Knight: i do not need to be reminded of the rules
Daria Blackmoore: An Corp - Resurrection
Elder EM Dudley: I'm sorry?
Celestial Knight: thank you
Elder EM Dudley: Alright
Elder EM Dudley: As you are aware the purpose of this is to notify and discuss any questions
Elder EM Dudley: Regarding our decision in the township series of events
NANOC: *nods*
Elder EM Dudley: It was our intention that each township would be represented by the highest authority
Elder EM Dudley: Of each township
Elder EM Dudley: I.E. Guildmasters, Administrators
Elder EM Dudley: Anyone who is the #1 top banana
Almthu: Governor on his way
Elder EM Dudley: The point of this is we wanted to talk directly to the people in charge
Almthu: I will be leaving now
Elder EM Dudley: Thank you
Almthu: he will be here in 5 mins
Almthu: called him
Elder EM Dudley: Thank you
Elder EM Dudley: The reason is because we wanted to know who is ultimatley responsible for each township
Elder EM Dudley: And we want to talk to them
Elder EM Dudley: Go right to the top
Elder EM Dudley: Without any intermediary
You see: Winfield [Pax]
You see: Winfield [Pax]
Elder EM Dudley: The township series was born out of a concept on Baja
Miss Watson: KAV and Keys has a group of 4 active OOC Leaders
NANOC: The Governor has arrived
NANOC: Over here sir
NANOC: is your seat
Elder EM Dudley: Ok
Elder EM Dudley: I'm going to say it one more time
Elder EM Dudley: Until we say so, everyone please remain quiet
Elder EM Dudley: There will be a time for disucssion at the end
Elder EM Dudley: Please let us get this out
Elder EM Dudley: As I was saying
Elder EM Dudley: The Township Series was born out of a concept from Baja
Elder EM Dudley: That started during an event EM Seppo ran
Elder EM Dudley: That allowed player run towns to declare allegiance during the Casca Arc
Elder EM Dudley: That system included a banner that decreed allegiance
Elder EM Dudley: The concept then went to Catskills
Elder EM Dudley: And then to here
Elder EM Dudley: The concept was fostered on the predication that it be a system that enhances community
Elder EM Dudley: By bringing together people with common goals
Elder EM Dudley: And common beliefs
Elder EM Dudley: And allowing a way to identify that group discretely
Elder EM Dudley: And allow them to interact better with EM storylines
Elder EM Dudley: My how we have strayed from this
Elder EM Dudley: There is no one person to blame
Elder EM Dudley: Everyone is responsible, including us
Elder EM Dudley: A big part of it is that we were moving into uncharted territory
Elder EM Dudley: And were dealing with some of the most basic human instincts
Elder EM Dudley: Especially when it came to the actual construction of the banners themselves
Elder EM Dudley: Without spending ten minutes reliving the entirity of where it failed
Elder EM Dudley: Let us simply say that the current state, as it came to a pinhead last month
Elder EM Dudley: Is not something we are willing to continue with
Elder EM Dudley: And devote our time to
Elder EM Dudley: It was our first impulse to simply cancel the series entirely
Elder EM Dudley: But we decided that would not be fair
Elder EM Dudley: To the hard work that everyone has put in
Elder EM Dudley: And it wouldn't be fair to ignore the small amount of good that came out of this
Elder EM Dudley: Townships have been given an prilege in this system
Elder EM Dudley: What we have seen is a sense of entitlement that is strangling out any good from this
Elder EM Dudley: Instead of treating the system and it's gifts as the blessing they were
Elder EM Dudley: It became an arena for unwanted drama
Elder EM Dudley: Despite the fact that Townships have been given events cetnered aroun them, somethin no other
Elder EM Dudley: Portion of the community has, it became a sounding board of
Elder EM Dudley: Township X got an event before Township Z and Township Y got two events
Elder EM Dudley: And Township C hasn't gotten any
Elder EM Dudley: this particular example was very nearly the cause of the entire cessation of all township events in
Elder EM Dudley: And we are trying to be extremely clear here
Elder EM Dudley: There are no favorites on Chesapeake
Elder EM Dudley: When we did the events centered at a township, they were done so on one of two basises
Elder EM Dudley: The first was on what made sense from a story perspective
Elder EM Dudley: And the second was, every township was given an equal chance
Elder EM Dudley: In terms of random spawnings with no warning
Elder EM Dudley: But yet there is still a sense of distrust
Elder EM Dudley: THat we, the EMs who are completely unbiased
Elder EM Dudley: Were some how foster an atmosphere of favoritism and pandering
Elder EM Dudley: We don't care how old a township is
Elder EM Dudley: We don't care how big a township is
Elder EM Dudley: We want to tell a story here, and the townships were meant to be involved with that in a way th
Elder EM Dudley: Going to be a bit above and beyond the aspects of the events
Elder EM Dudley: The orcs, the Undead
Elder EM Dudley: These all started at one township as the story directed
Elder EM Dudley: And then were moved on to the random spawning categories
Elder EM Dudley: All of the townships were going to be dealt with in this fashion
Elder EM Dudley: Until all had been involved
Elder EM Dudley: As a jumping off point of story related monster
Elder EM Dudley: But the bickering and finger pointing and general banality we saw as a response
Elder EM Dudley: Stalled us to the point that instead of trying something that promised to be engaging
Elder EM Dudley: And inventive, became a great headache to deal with
Elder EM Dudley: Taking us away from our actual duties as EMs
Elder EM Dudley: Which is to advance storylines through events
Elder EM Dudley: And to provide entertainment
Elder EM Dudley: The only solution was to eliminate it entirely before you all let it tear yourselves apart
Elder EM Dudley: Quite frankly
Elder EM Dudley: The point that the series had gotten to was absurd
Elder EM Dudley: We don't care if you like each other
Elder EM Dudley: In fact it's more fun if you don't like everyone in Roleplay
Darth Oni: *raises a brow*
Elder EM Dudley: It provides conflict, but the point of roleplay is to have fun and that point is being egregiously
Elder EM Dudley: overlooked
Elder EM Dudley: You have to channel things into an IC fashion so that they can be productive instead of destructiv
Elder EM Dudley: I can dislike someone OOC but still tolerate them IC
Elder EM Dudley: Just like in real life you don't always like people you have to work iwth
Elder EM Dudley: You still have to work with them
Elder EM Dudley: The people on the shard may not be people you like, but you are on the shard with them regardles
Elder EM Dudley: And the BEST and ONLY way to move forward as a shard is to try and let all this petty nonsen
Elder EM Dudley: Nonsense fall by the wayside
Elder EM Dudley: And focus on the game
Elder EM Dudley: Have fun
Elder EM Dudley: Join the events
Elder EM Dudley: Every single thing will be centered on you, your group, your township
Elder EM Dudley: Your friends townships
Elder EM Dudley: Or even anything you're always interested in
Elder EM Dudley: So just hang on, and we PROMISE when we do these things we are looking at how the best way t
Elder EM Dudley: Balanced and unbiased is on all levels
Elder EM Dudley: We are here for the Shard's benefit
Elder EM Dudley: And if these township series casue the Shard and its Community to have strife and grief between
Elder EM Dudley: Each other
Elder EM Dudley: The answer is very simple
Elder EM Dudley: And that is to remove the township series entirely and focus on events that everyone can enjoy
Elder EM Dudley: Without causing this sort of strife
Elder EM Dudley: That being said...
Elder EM Dudley: And before we allow you a chance for questions
Elder EM Dudley: Firstly
Elder EM Dudley: We will be finishing the livery quest
Elder EM Dudley: Whether we explore further attempts at township enhancement
Elder EM Dudley: Through the addition of future structures
Elder EM Dudley: Will be determined as we move forward
Elder EM Dudley: And continue to evaluate the series from this point on
Elder EM Dudley: Secondly
Elder EM Dudley: We will not be continuing with the Summit meetings as they existed previously
Elder EM Dudley: We found that nobody was really getting anything out of them
Elder EM Dudley: And it was becoming an arena for people to foster some of the destructive behaviors
Elder EM Dudley: I just spoke about
Elder EM Dudley: Thirdly
Elder EM Dudley: As far as the EM Staff (Us) is concerned
Elder EM Dudley: From this point forward
Elder EM Dudley: We will be dealing with the townships on a completely in character basis
Elder EM Dudley: This means
Elder EM Dudley: That every township shall have a defined leader
Elder EM Dudley: One person
Elder EM Dudley: Whether you have 30 behind the scenes
Elder EM Dudley: That are handling that one person
Elder EM Dudley: Is your business
Elder EM Dudley: We don't want to know about it
Elder EM Dudley: The other townships don't need to know about it as far as these events are concerned
Elder EM Dudley: There needs to be one person
Elder EM Dudley: Who is accountable for the actions of that township
Elder EM Dudley: On an In character basis
Elder EM Dudley: Finally
Elder EM Dudley: And this is the most important
Elder EM Dudley: Should we find out that anyone
Elder EM Dudley: Is propagating any of the behavior we have seen in the past
Elder EM Dudley: If Mesanna, myself or Dross have to get bogged down in some drama
Elder EM Dudley: Between any townships
Elder EM Dudley: On any topic
Elder EM Dudley: We are cancelling the series permanently
Elder EM Dudley: If you have problems with people out of character
Elder EM Dudley: Figure out amongst yourselves
Elder EM Dudley: We are all adults here
Elder EM Dudley: And it is not our job, it is certainly not Mesanna's job
Elder EM Dudley: To mediate between you
Elder EM Dudley: If you can't figure out a way to determine an outcome In Character
Elder EM Dudley: Or settel a dispute in character
Elder EM Dudley: Then we don't want to here about ti
Elder EM Dudley: Hear even
Elder EM Dudley: That's all we've got
Elder EM Dudley: If anyone has any questions
Celestial Knight: raise hand
Jane Douleur: Yes
Tancred RedStar: *raises hand*
Elder EM Dudley: Now is the time
Elder EM Dudley: We will go around the room
Elder EM Dudley: If anyone interjects
Elder EM Dudley: While another person is talking
Elder EM Dudley: You will be removed
Elder EM Dudley: And absolutely no finger pointing
Elder EM Dudley: Of any sort
Elder EM Dudley: If it is not a question about how the EMs will deal with YOUR township
Elder EM Dudley: Do not ask it
Elder EM Dudley: As far as you should be concerned
Elder EM Dudley: It's only us in the room
Elder EM Dudley: Nobody else is here
Elder EM Dudley: We will begin with Celestial Knight
Celestial Knight: yes sir
Celestial Knight: Actions loyalty is to Queen Dawn >if the banner is more trouble
Celestial Knight: please remove it i been a guidl lkeadernow for 15 years
Celestial Knight: i do not need it
Celestial Knight: thank you
Elder EM Dudley: If you would like the banner removed
Elder EM Dudley: You can email us
Celestial Knight: thank you
Elder EM Dudley: Nastia Cross?
Nastia Cross: I have no comments at this time sirs
Elder EM Dudley: Rivi Ravenwynd?
Nyx: In Vas Mani Hur
Rivi Ravenwynd: Are there requirements for my township to remain? like events or mtgs
Elder EM Dudley: As we move forward
Elder EM Dudley: We will be provide events for townships to participate in
Elder EM Dudley: Along those same lines
Elder EM Dudley: The Banner system was a way to enhance the community
Elder EM Dudley: You will be expected to do so to some degree
Elder EM Dudley: It doesn't have to be an event
Elder EM Dudley: But simply being will not be justification for a banner
Elder EM Dudley: Or a spot in the hub
Elder EM Dudley: These aren't decorations
Elder EM Dudley: It's a symbol of a promise to the community
Elder EM Dudley: And your committment to it
Elder EM Dudley: Whatever that may be
Elder EM Dudley: Anything else?
Rivi Ravenwynd: will a list of things that will be expected from a township be made available
Elder EM Dudley: Yes
Elder EM Dudley: Like we said
Rivi Ravenwynd: ty
EM Drosselmeyer: When that is decided, it will be very clearly explained.
Rivi Ravenwynd: one more
Elder EM Dudley: We are handling it on an in character basis
Elder EM Dudley: Yes?
Rivi Ravenwynd: i understand the need to be vague about behaviors that are destructive
Rivi Ravenwynd: but I want to make sure that we dont violate them and I am unclear on what is being referred to
Rivi Ravenwynd: todoay
Rivi Ravenwynd: today
Elder EM Dudley: What we are referring to is any action or behavior
Elder EM Dudley: From one township to another
Elder EM Dudley: That is not an in character action
Elder EM Dudley: Or based in some roleplayed scenario
Elder EM Dudley: If you can't operate along those terms
Elder EM Dudley: If you can't keep it IN THE GAME
Elder EM Dudley: Do not speak to each other
Elder EM Dudley: Because like we said, if it gets back to us again
Elder EM Dudley: We will no longer continue to support the series
Rivi Ravenwynd: ty that is all i have in my head right now
Elder EM Dudley: Nyx?
Nyx: umm
Nyx: In Vas Mani Hur
Nyx: In Vas Mani Hur
Nyx: Speaking in global chat about someone or fighting and calling ppl noobs will or will not be tolerated?
Daria Blackmoore: :}
Nyx: An Nox - Cure
Nyx: I mean I am on nyx alot
Nyx: and I do not rp per say
Nyx: I am just me
EM Drosselmeyer: Alright, the big thing we are talking about here is destructive attitudes and behavoirs
EM Drosselmeyer: Towards other townships and the like
EM Drosselmeyer: Like we said
EM Drosselmeyer: We don't care if you dont like someone
EM Drosselmeyer: You can hate them
EM Drosselmeyer: But There's no need to air it out in public for the world to see
Miss Watson: *raises hand*
EM Drosselmeyer: And there's especially no reason to air it out to or at us
EM Drosselmeyer: We aren't your teachers. We aren't here to be group therapists
EM Drosselmeyer: We're here to run events, and the bottom line is this;
EM Drosselmeyer: If the township events cause you all to bicker and squabble
EM Drosselmeyer: we won't do them
EM Drosselmeyer: I know that things can get heated, and people can have issues
EM Drosselmeyer: I've had plenty with players before
EM Drosselmeyer: But I keep it to myself, try to work it out with the other person
EM Drosselmeyer: If that fails
EM Drosselmeyer: I just let it go, and do my best not to pay them attention
EM Drosselmeyer: Only you can let someone else get to you
EM Drosselmeyer: On the specifics about name calling in general chat
EM Drosselmeyer: During events, it is never called for.
Nyx: if we are not at an event
EM Drosselmeyer: And as townships, people should look to you all as examples
EM Drosselmeyer: You're being given privileges that no other subsection is given
EM Drosselmeyer: So we expect you to act accordingly
EM Drosselmeyer: If you're out in felucca on some random day and fighting
EM Drosselmeyer: And you tell someone they're a terrible fighter
EM Drosselmeyer: Are we going to pull the plug on you?
EM Drosselmeyer: No
EM Drosselmeyer: If you are at an event and start a big argument for no reason with other townships
EM Drosselmeyer: and pepper it with biting insults are we going to take you to task for it?
EM Drosselmeyer: Yes.
EM Drosselmeyer: If you aren't prepared to take responsibility for your actions, don't commit the actions.
EM Drosselmeyer: Did that answer your question?
Nyx: yup fel is fair game
Nyx: ty
EM Drosselmeyer: It's not just fel
EM Drosselmeyer: We don't care what you do on your personal time
Nyx: In Vas Mani Hur
EM Drosselmeyer: Heck, you can argue and fight in private all you want
EM Drosselmeyer: But the moment it bleeds over into the game and affects the events and the shard as a whole?
EM Drosselmeyer: That's when it's our problem.
Nyx: well if I say something in global I am usually in fel
EM Drosselmeyer: Did you have any other questions?
Nyx: no ty
Elder EM Dudley: Daria?
Daria Blackmoore: Aye
Daria Blackmoore: More of a staement really
Daria Blackmoore: Just wanna ty for the opportunity ya'll given us for one
Daria Blackmoore: I know it's wearing on ya'll obviusly
Daria Blackmoore: At one time
Daria Blackmoore: Everyone oof us
Daria Blackmoore: supported each others events and township
Daria Blackmoore: unfortunately
Daria Blackmoore: that was before this eries began
Daria Blackmoore: series even
Daria Blackmoore: I cant say i hold disregard for anyone in this room
Daria Blackmoore: or thier guilds etc
Daria Blackmoore: Just hope in time we can get back to that point
Elder EM Dudley: So do we
Daria Blackmoore: above the smog we dwell in as of now
Daria Blackmoore: I am ashamed it has gone this far
Daria Blackmoore: that is all for me
Daria Blackmoore: ty
Elder EM Dudley: Winfield?
Tancred RedStar: uh
Elder EM Dudley: Oops
Elder EM Dudley: I mean Tancred
Tancred RedStar: I know he looks prettier
Winfield: *nods*
Tancred RedStar: anyway
Elder EM Dudley: Your cape blends in the floor
Elder EM Dudley: *grins*
Tancred RedStar: I apologize for any of the negativity I have contributed that led us here tonight
Tancred RedStar: I apologize to both of you
Tancred RedStar: and to each member of the community
Tancred RedStar: I know I've said some stuff that was not stellar
Tancred RedStar: Ive realized some of it was wrong
Tancred RedStar: and have tried to change things for the better
Tancred RedStar: most all the people in this room
Tancred RedStar: have known each other in some capacity
Tancred RedStar: for years and years
Tancred RedStar: surely we can be better than we are now
Tancred RedStar: I will try to do my best
Tancred RedStar: I humbly ask the same of all of you
Tancred RedStar: one more thing
Elder EM Dudley: Sure
Tancred RedStar: should a person act on behalf of their town
Tancred RedStar: and "ruin" it for everyone
Tancred RedStar: how could that be fair to cancel said events for all?
Tancred RedStar: why not just sanction either them personally or their town?
Tancred RedStar: maybe lead to new town election?
EM Drosselmeyer: Simply put, there's no simple answer here; But in these cases..
EM Drosselmeyer: It's almost never a single person causing or acting on these feelings and the like
Darth Oni: *raises a brow*
EM Drosselmeyer: If some rogue element in your guild or township decides to try and ruin things
EM Drosselmeyer: Then it's up to you as a guild/township to excise that person
Tancred RedStar: I see
EM Drosselmeyer: A guild must take responsibility for those in it's membership
EM Drosselmeyer: If there is a singular incident, it will be handled on its own on a singular basis
Elder EM Dudley: The important thing to realize
EM Drosselmeyer: But if it becomese widespread we will not hesitate to eliminate the series as the source.
Tancred RedStar: thank you
Elder EM Dudley: We are here to put on events to better the community, especially in this case
Elder EM Dudley: If it becomes that we cannot achieve that goal
Elder EM Dudley: We will take the appropriate action
Elder EM Dudley: Also do not mistake this for us saying we will get in the middle of any disputes
Elder EM Dudley: If you can't work it out between yourselves
Elder EM Dudley: Just stop interacting with each other
Elder EM Dudley: If that is the only solution to keep the peace do it
Elder EM Dudley: We simply do not have the time or energy to police everyone
Elder EM Dudley: And that is not our responsibility to the shard
Elder EM Dudley: That's your responsibility as township leaders
Elder EM Dudley: And if it can't be resolved IC and amicably OC
Elder EM Dudley: If it gets too out of hand
Elder EM Dudley: Just walk away from one another
Elder EM Dudley: Anything else Tancred?
Tancred RedStar: mmm
Tancred RedStar: that's all for now, thank you again
Elder EM Dudley: Winfield?
Winfield: I have a comment and question if I may.
Elder EM Dudley: Proceed
Winfield: I applaud your courage to bring these issues to us, as the town leaders here.
Winfield: To fill us in on your frustrations and your approach to help us.
Winfield: I thank you for your frankness.
Winfield: For years we've had towns and major establishments.
Winfield: As we all know, with or without an EM townships series, our towns and establishments will continue.
Winfield: We've had towns since early days
Winfield: and since then there was plenty of OOC jealousy and backstabbing. It is a competitive nature here,
Winfield: even though it was destructive.
Winfield: I hope from this day forward, we learn from our faults of recent and past and do better.
Winfield: I know I learn all the time.
Winfield: My question is about the RP nature now.
Elder EM Dudley: Ok
Winfield: I love the idea of townships being completely inchar as a town.
Winfield: dealing with each other, the crown, the guard, etc.
Winfield: This is what I hoped for in the series.
Winfield: And my question is, will we be able to have a better feeling
Winfield: of the presense of the Crown, or the Guard in the realm, without having to
Winfield: even get on messageforums and such? I know it is hard with limited EM staff.
Elder EM Dudley: That is our hope
Winfield: But maybe thought can be made for that... drop notes in the Queens box.
Elder EM Dudley: Our main focus is being in game
Winfield: I don't see this HOC hall as In Char at all, so I recommend using the Castle Britain or near there.
Winfield: Thank you, and listens now.
Elder EM Dudley: And doing stuff in game
Elder EM Dudley: The mechanics of our world are sometimes limiting
Elder EM Dudley: And it's just easier to get information out through various resources
Elder EM Dudley: I also finally decided to become a grownup
Elder EM Dudley: And by a grownup phone
NANOC: *chuckles*
Elder EM Dudley: Buy even
Elder EM Dudley: With more bells and whistles then my first PC
Elder EM Dudley: So we are pretty much on top of everything
Elder EM Dudley: And I always monitor the various modes of communication
Elder EM Dudley: This allows us more time to do stuff in game
Elder EM Dudley: And cuts down on teh out of game setup
Elder EM Dudley: So it is our hope that by taking this entire series
Elder EM Dudley: Exclusively In Character
Elder EM Dudley: It will be better all around
EM Drosselmeyer: Also, don't worry about the fact that many of you have townships that aren't aligned with the cro
EM Drosselmeyer: crown. One reason we work to make new and compelling characters is for their future usefulness
EM Drosselmeyer: While those with the crown can expect the Guard and the Crown's ambassadors/envoys
EM Drosselmeyer: Everyone can expect certain sets of RPC's, such as the Gypsies
EM Drosselmeyer: Who were and are still going to be a continuing thing here on Chesapeake
EM Drosselmeyer: And there will be anti crown RPC's as well for those against the crown.
EM Drosselmeyer: Anything else, Winfield?
Winfield: Nothing else, thanks.
EM Drosselmeyer: Nanoc?
NANOC: No questions at this time I believe the others are doing a fine job *smiles* as well as you
EM Drosselmeyer: Thank you
NANOC: Dudley and Dross
Elder EM Dudley: Thankee
EM Drosselmeyer: Zanku?
zanku: yes sir
EM Drosselmeyer: Any questions or comments you wish to relay?
zanku: well, I know from our end as a township
zanku: we enjoy the events alot
zanku: the only question i have
zanku: is
zanku: if we as a township are doing an event
zanku: and we have one opf our menbers that gets out of line
zanku: how do we handkle it while the event is going on?
zanku: I am
zanku: refering to an instance that occured at the caravan event
zanku: if that was one of our own, how would we handle that there?
Elder EM Dudley: That is entirely up to you as the guild leader
Elder EM Dudley: We aren't going to cancel the series
Elder EM Dudley: Because one person at an event acted like a donkey
Elder EM Dudley: Some of your fellow Township Leaders
Elder EM Dudley: Have years of experience dealing with Guilds
Elder EM Dudley: So you could always ask some of them for advice
Elder EM Dudley: I was a pretty cutrhoat guild leader
zanku:
Elder EM Dudley: Based on the situation
Elder EM Dudley: I'd likely have them hanged or imprisoned
Darth Oni: o
Elder EM Dudley: But that's just me
zanku: me to
Elder EM Dudley: Anything else?
zanku: no sir and thank you
Elder EM Dudley: Ozog?
Ozog Giantfart: kins wees still bites and pees on people?
Elder EM Dudley: So long as it isn't us
Elder EM Dudley: *grins*
EM Drosselmeyer: Also
EM Drosselmeyer: IC actions are okay
EM Drosselmeyer: Like we said, we expect conflict between people
EM Drosselmeyer: It's natural
Ozog Giantfart: okilies
EM Drosselmeyer: If you're tryikng to tell a story, there need sto be a conflict
Ozog Giantfart: girkle
EM Drosselmeyer: But KEEP IT IN CHARACTER.
EM Drosselmeyer: For example
EM Drosselmeyer: Gwen will insult and grumble and sigh exasperatedly at people all the time
EM Drosselmeyer: but it's all in character
EM Drosselmeyer: If you keep it in character, you can still have these conflicts
Ozog Giantfart: yerg
EM Drosselmeyer: And NOT cause a big scene or problem with people
EM Drosselmeyer: Like we said about the profanity issue with us
EM Drosselmeyer: It's about respect more than anything
EM Drosselmeyer: Provided you treat people right ooc, most IC things are fine.
Ozog Giantfart: meees only cusses in goblin
EM Drosselmeyer: Some players hate orcs, some hate humans, some hate elves, some hate goblins, etc
Ozog Giantfart: MEN GHEC AN
EM Drosselmeyer: That's fine; That's part of roleplaying
EM Drosselmeyer: Just don't let it bleed over to OOC stuff
EM Drosselmeyer: Simple as that.
EM Drosselmeyer: I've been a roleplayer in UO for as long as I can remember
EM Drosselmeyer: Some of the most fun I've had were big IC fights and arguments, that despite our CHARACTERS
EM Drosselmeyer: By the end hating each others guts, We as PLAYERS were laughing and having fun.
Ozog Giantfart: yerg
EM Drosselmeyer: Did you have anything else?
Ozog Giantfart: nerg
Elder EM Dudley: Oni?
Ozog Giantfart: girkle
Darth Oni: aye
Darth Oni: what kind of event we can expect..
Darth Oni: or allowed to ask yas?
Darth Oni: for example...
Darth Oni: i still have the playground that vladimere builded up ffor use
Darth Oni: for my knight games
Darth Oni: i'm sadly cant host at momtn trouing
Darth Oni: short game time...
Darth Oni: *touring
Darth Oni: its still for use?
Elder EM Dudley: If there are events you would like support for
Elder EM Dudley: You can email us and we will work with you to help
Elder EM Dudley: That stuff you can still feel free to use
Elder EM Dudley: As far as our arc events
Elder EM Dudley: Events that advance the story
Elder EM Dudley: We will take aspects and fold them into the story
Elder EM Dudley: You can then take it back to your township and do what you wish with it
Elder EM Dudley: Our storyline will progress as we already plan
Elder EM Dudley: What you can do is take it back to your township
Elder EM Dudley: And do what you'd like to do with it
Darth Oni: k
Elder EM Dudley: Anything else?
Darth Oni: thank you
Darth Oni: not right now...
Elder EM Dudley: Miss Watson?
Darth Oni: most is allrdy answered
Darth Oni: *smiles*
Miss Watson: I have no comment or questions at this time
Elder EM Dudley: Demon Slayer?
Demon Slayer: so most townships need to complete just 1 more livery quest to get a stablemaster right ?
Darth Oni: *shakes head*
Elder EM Dudley: Some do
Elder EM Dudley: I wouldn't say most
Demon Slayer: ok
Elder EM Dudley: They won't be built until late December/January
Elder EM Dudley: Anything else?
Demon Slayer: no thank you
Elder EM Dudley: Jane?
Jane Douleur: I have a comment and a question
Elder EM Dudley: Ok
Jane Douleur: the comment is, it is a shame that the indiscretions of a few led to all to be punished
Jane Douleur: i am "old school" RP where we had to create everything
Jane Douleur: perhaps the gifts are too much of a focus, and maybe going back to barebones is the way to go
Jane Douleur: question is, are we still able to email for assistance with town events?
Elder EM Dudley: Yes
Jane Douleur: thank you
Elder EM Dudley: Please be aware though
Elder EM Dudley: That we won't be honoring requests for individual fiction event support
Elder EM Dudley: Instead we will fold those requests
Elder EM Dudley: Into the township event series
Jane Douleur: i am refering to the blood regatta
Elder EM Dudley: For contests and festivals
Elder EM Dudley: You can email us
Elder EM Dudley: And we will do our best to accomodate
Jane Douleur: excellent, thanks
Elder EM Dudley: Was there anything else?
Jane Douleur: no thank you for clearing this up for us all
Elder EM Dudley: Thakria?
Thakria: not at this time sirs thank you
Elder EM Dudley: Alright
Elder EM Dudley: Before you all depart
Elder EM Dudley: Two things
Elder EM Dudley: Firstly
Elder EM Dudley: We need to know the primary leader of each township
Elder EM Dudley: For most townships it is who sits here tonight
Elder EM Dudley: But for others who sent representatives
Elder EM Dudley: We need to know who is in charge
Elder EM Dudley: Please deposit a book in the mailbox outside
Jane Douleur: Jamlyn is in charge of Aryslan
Elder EM Dudley: With that information
Elder EM Dudley: Secondly, Dross has some books
Darth Oni: phew...
Rivi Ravenwynd: one more question please *raises hand*
Jane Douleur: thanks
Elder EM Dudley: Yes Rivi?
Rivi Ravenwynd: Will the HOC mtgs remain OOC
Elder EM Dudley: Yes
Elder EM Dudley: The HoC Meetings are always Out of Character
Elder EM Dudley: And will continue forever
Rivi Ravenwynd: so that ppl can give feedback freely without consequences to the townhip or the series
Elder EM Dudley: No matter what
EM Drosselmeyer: Constructive criticism is always welcome
Elder EM Dudley: Aye
Rivi Ravenwynd: great ty
Nyx: An Nox - Cure
EM Drosselmeyer: Also
Elder EM Dudley: Operative word being Constructive
Elder EM Dudley: The event sucked is not constructive
Rivi Ravenwynd: yes i know
EM Drosselmeyer: Exactly
Elder EM Dudley: Nobody here has an issue with that
Rivi Ravenwynd: but punisghing a towship or the series fora person stating occc opinion
Elder EM Dudley: We value feedback from each of you
Elder EM Dudley: No, that won't be the case
Rivi Ravenwynd: kk ty
Rivi Ravenwynd: I am done
Rivi Ravenwynd: ty
EM Drosselmeyer: As for the books
EM Drosselmeyer: The books I meant were the ones that vanished at the collapse of the castle
EM Drosselmeyer: From the Storming the Gates event
EM Drosselmeyer: Though I don't always do it, I try to keep a spare copy of most in game fiction for such occasion
EM Drosselmeyer: So if anyone wanted to make copies, I will leave them here for a short time
Jane Douleur: thanks
Elder EM Dudley: We'll set em out at the HoC as well
Daria Blackmoore: Perhaps a permanant home at the shard reward hall
Daria Blackmoore: a lil library section be good reading!~
NANOC: Good idea Daria
EM Drosselmeyer: That's a good suggestion, and we'll look into it
EM Drosselmeyer: Any other questions?
Tancred RedStar: aye
Elder EM Dudley: Tancred?
Tancred RedStar: would it possible to have a meeting like this every few months
Tancred RedStar: so ew can talk straight without distractions
zanku:
Nastia Cross: *nods*
Tancred RedStar: leader to leader
Elder EM Dudley: That's what our plan is
Tancred RedStar: etc
Tancred RedStar: ok great
Winfield: *raises hand*
Elder EM Dudley: The Summit meetings were becoming a bit cumbersome
Elder EM Dudley: The major difference
Tancred RedStar: they were turning into a stage
Elder EM Dudley: Will be that any future meeting will be In Character
Elder EM Dudley: With an RPC
Elder EM Dudley: We won't be bringing everyone together
Elder EM Dudley: To hash out our concerns about OC behavior
Ozog Giantfart: which mailbox?
Elder EM Dudley: If we get to that point again
Elder EM Dudley: The main one outside
Elder EM Dudley: The series will be cancelled
Elder EM Dudley: Anyone else?
EM Drosselmeyer: Intruder!
Winfield: I have a question.
Elder EM Dudley: Yes?
Winfield: For the primary leader for these books,
Ozog Giantfart: putem in basement
Winfield: do you mean the leader In Character, or OOC?
Elder EM Dudley: I ban thee
You see: Clement the gypsy
Winfield: Our mayor of PaxLair City is an orc.
Elder EM Dudley: OOC
Winfield: He is the leader, but does not go to meetings.
EM Drosselmeyer: The person who is RESPONSIBLE for the townships actions.
Elder EM Dudley: Yes
Winfield: I represent PaxLair City therefore as it's governor.
Winfield: For OOC actions or in-char actions?
Winfield: I know, it hurts our heads.
Elder EM Dudley: If you want to do both that's fine
EM Drosselmeyer: Actually, if anyone already put theirs in
EM Drosselmeyer: and they have one person for OOC, one person for IC
Winfield: Will just be me for PaxLair city for now. But if Ga'kuct shows up, he's the Mayor in character.
EM Drosselmeyer: Then please put another book in with both; thinking about it , it will assist us with RPC...
Winfield: I understand. We'll make it work.
Elder EM Dudley: We are basically trying to get a sense of who administrats your township
Winfield: Thanks.
Winfield: That would be me.
Winfield: Thanks.
Jane Douleur: question please
Elder EM Dudley: A good way to put it is...
Elder EM Dudley: If you look up and there is nobody above you
Elder EM Dudley: That's the name we'd want
Elder EM Dudley: yes Jane?
Jane Douleur: in Aryslans case
Jane Douleur: Jam could not be here
Jane Douleur: we do not want to miss out on this information
Jane Douleur: should you be emailed prior should the leader be absent?
Darth Oni: *rasies hand*
Nyx: In Vas Mani Hur
Nyx: In Vas Mani Hur
Nastia Cross: *raises hand*
Elder EM Dudley: From here on out
Elder EM Dudley: These will be in character dealings
Elder EM Dudley: So we don't care who shows up
Elder EM Dudley: For the purposes of out of character administration
Elder EM Dudley: That's what we'd like to know
Jane Douleur: ok
Elder EM Dudley: Oni?
Ozog Giantfart: oh goos da whole mob kin comes
Darth Oni: was close same asking...
Darth Oni: cuz since me living
Darth Oni: in germany
Darth Oni: i nto always can make it
Darth Oni: *not
Elder EM Dudley: I hear there was a bad snowstorm in Germany
Darth Oni: aye
NANOC: *laughs*
NANOC: she has been shoveling for 2 days now
Darth Oni: and i had to snow shipp!
Darth Oni: *nods*
Elder EM Dudley: Two of my coworkers were delayed on a flight to South Africa
Elder EM Dudley: I do hope everything turns out alright
Darth Oni: *chuckles*
Darth Oni: well..
Elder EM Dudley: But yes, you can send representatives
Nyx: In Vas Mani Hur
Elder EM Dudley: To the In Charcter proceedings in the future
Elder EM Dudley: Nastia?
Nyx: In Vas Mani Hur
Darth Oni: ok thx
Nastia Cross: I just wanted to mention
Nastia Cross: that both IC and OOC we have a council of leaders
Nastia Cross: so IC the interactions we would include the council
Nastia Cross: is that within parameters?
Elder EM Dudley: Yes
Nyx: In Vas Mani Hur
Nyx: In Vas Mani Hur
Nastia Cross: Thanks
Nyx: In Vas Mani Hur
Elder EM Dudley: Anyone else?
Elder EM Dudley: Did anyone records this ?
Elder EM Dudley: Record even?
Tancred RedStar: I have in journal
Tancred RedStar: is it ok to post or prefer I dont?
Daria Blackmoore: tis all in me head!
Elder EM Dudley: Could you please forward it to both of us
Daria Blackmoore: lol
Elder EM Dudley: It's free knowledge
Elder EM Dudley: We aren't trying to keep secrets here
Tancred RedStar: ok
Elder EM Dudley: We just wanted to extend the courtesty to the leadership first
Tancred RedStar: I will have to edit out all the dirty jokes in alliance chat first
Elder EM Dudley: Of informing them of our decision
Elder EM Dudley: Before the general populace
Jane Douleur: haha
Elder EM Dudley: *grins*
Ozog Giantfart: girkle
Elder EM Dudley: But yes, feel free to post
Tancred RedStar: ok
NANOC: Thank you
Elder EM Dudley: And if you could send to both of us that would be greatly appreciated
Tancred RedStar: I shall
Daria Blackmoore: heck send it my way to
Daria Blackmoore: i will never remember
Daria Blackmoore: *chuckles*
Ozog Giantfart: kins meees habe my stool?
Tancred RedStar: want fries with that?
Elder EM Dudley: *grins*
Daria Blackmoore: a lil shake too woot
Elder EM Dudley: Thank you all for attending
Tancred RedStar: I will
Elder EM Dudley: We look forward to the future
Nastia Cross: No, thank you
NANOC: Thank you both for the fine job and dedication you give to Chessy
Winfield: Thanks Dudley and Dross.
Elder EM Dudley: You are most welcome
Elder EM Dudley: G'nite everyone
Nastia Cross: Night
Jane Douleur: nite
Ozog Giantfart: *tugs ha ha hat*
Miss Watson: Good night
EM Drosselmeyer: Thank you all and take care
Elder EM Dudley: *jingle jingle*
zanku: yes , thank you and hope to have these meetings again
Elder EM Dudley: *jingle*
