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The Trillion Dollar Trading of EM Items

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Kylie Kinslayer

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All EM items should be available through npc quest/spawns. Make the rewards random and a bit tough to get but they SHOULD be obtainable. As of now only 1% of the people can afford these items and the other 99% suffer. I think we should occupy luna until this is adressed :popcorn:

Well why stop there? Let's also include Blaze Cu's, LEET non imbued armor, jewls and weps. Why should some folks have all this high end stuff and the majority do not? Let's also not forget about prepatch pets, and great pets that no longer spawn. Ohhhhh on second thought let's just delete ALL items in the game and make everyone run around naked and totally crash ANY market out there. Let's do away with the current monetary system, have a 15 year revert and rebuild UO as an old Hippy Commune. :lol:



Yepp, dat dere is sarcasm :D
 

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All EM items should be available through npc quest/spawns. Make the rewards random and a bit tough to get but they SHOULD be obtainable. As of now only 1% of the people can afford these items and the other 99% suffer. I think we should occupy luna until this is adressed :popcorn:
I have never ever owned a rare in the game or an EM event item. Not my thing but I had so much gold from hunting ( yes I even loot mongbats ) it was sickening. Never owned a luna house btw. Just built on my riches and was tight with my gold. I had my own shop and advertised like crazy. If I needed something I would go try to hunt/earn it or buy it the cheapest price I could find.

I dropped over 300 mil randomly on cats about 3 years ago to make room in my characters bank accounts. Gold doesnt mean anything to me plus its not worth anything anymore.
 

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Just wanted to put my point out there Thought Elemental, and I appreciate you coming back and straightenin me out.

Back onto topic, if these items become "Account Bound", this is just one more step in the direction of making "Account Bound" items the way UO goes.. And I'm not for that. Go play World of Warcraft and enjoy Soulbound "Account" bound items til your head falls off, (not that i want your head to fall off or anything).

Imagine some upset individual angry at players because they are getting Tangles/Crimson Cinctures, Blaze and Glacial Hair Dyes, Slithers, Random Doom Arties... the list goes on.. and then they come on the forums and say HEY THESE NEED TO BE ACCOUNT BOUND, and we logical few that spend the time to actually get on here and voice the correct opinion stay quiet..
We'll all logged in and see our crafted goods on our characters with the word "Souldbound" attatched to it. I'd be pissed. I've stuck with UO for a LONG LONG time.. But that may be the thing that chases me off. At that rate, why not have a little box that pops up with 2 choices, need or greed, and if you click 1 it generates a random number between 1-100 and whoever gets the highest number wins the item in question! Hey why not make it to where you get points associated with your account that you can spend on a vendor and get even more Account bound goods.. /end sarcasm ala World of Warcraft.

TL; DR?

I think the notion that anything (Other than Soulstones with skills you trained up on it) becoming account bound is horrible. Beyond horrible. I like being able to log in and see items in general chat being sold, sometimes I'm the purchaser of said items.. And I like selling Crimson Cinctures/Tangles/Scrolls of Transcendence etc.. And while those have nothing to do with EM Items becoming account bound, by making these account bound it feeds into the notion that some angry person gets peeved that people are actually getting items and making money on them will get on these very forums and demand everything become account bound. No. And good day.
 

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:( I stand corrected on this issue. I just felt they should be what they're intended for - a keepsake of an event attended.
 

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Petra, I'm not trying to make it sound like you're in need of correcting, I've been a long time viewer of the forums, just made an account to start posting recently and I've come to respect most of the things you've said. But this is just a touchy subject mostly because of what "could" potentially happen if these items become account bound. I can understand alot of frustration on the part of people who want the items bad had to go to work and don't have millions sitting in the bank to buy it off some lucky individual who got a drop, or clicked a statue. It's frustrating on the part of most of the people who go that have to deal with jerks who cast Greater Cure, or morph into demon and cover up 5 players so they can't be seen.. And people treating the EM"s like total garbage.. but when you stick in the event, get an item it's awesome. 1 because people want that item and you can get a "payoff" for dealing with the slimes that make the event horrible, or 2 you get this awesome deco for your house or something to sell or donate to a museum. The long and short of it is, these just don't need to become Account bound.
 

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1 because people want that item and you can get a "payoff" for dealing with the slimes that make the event horrible
Please proof read your messages good sir... its also extreemly arrogant to think Petra was adressing you.

The vote seems to be in favor of EM items becoming account bound, find ANOTHER way to enhance the rares market.

Heck hide items on NPCs, let people have fun FINDING THEM (AKA ... *** NOT** GAMBLING...)

... why do I even have to say those self-evident things.

Let the EMs do what they're supposed to do.
 

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Do you know who you are adressing to Zosimus... have you even read my messages ... now please captain Obvious.

A game is about having fun ?!

Maybe thats why I'm on siege !!! YAY !!!!

LOGIC AND REASON :p

But in my opinion, because of this fuss, many good players who would normally play to have fun get entangled in this "exitement"

of making quick rich scheme PROVIDED BY EA ITSELF.

It takes away potential players from Siege, in fact, when I adventure on other shards to find new players for Siege, I am appaled at the fact that 90% at least never even heard that Siege existed, or that any different shard existed at all.

And beleive me it is with the highest joy that I bring them over to my place..

and EVERYTIME 100% of the time always forever...

these people have a AHA moment..

they're like : "huh, what was I doing... I'll try to sell those EM crap and find someone who wants to trade siege gold for prodo gold"

And well.. as you can imagine, often I'm like *facepalm*

but hey, its +1 for Siege again.
 

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Ahau, where does it even begin to look like the "vote" is that these become account bound?
I hoped you would say that...

I am considering the opinion of known and well respected community members vs random anonymous people. The vote is an arbitrary calculation in my mind... and you are right.

I would LOVE to have an argument over the legitimacy of this philosophy I proclaim.

Lets just take it one step at a time, do you understand why I am frustrated ?
 

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No, I have no idea why you're frustrated, and I am not some random anonymous person, as I said, I've played UO a very long time, and just recently started posting. Additionally you've come off as a person that I don't care about you're opinion, regardless of how "respected" you've come to think YOU are. If you can weigh anything other than a handful of peoples opinions, then you can garner what I've garnered from this thread and see that more are against the idea than not. Regardless, of post count, or whatever other methods you're judging a person's legitimacy on, the people that post here are probably paying the same for their subscription as you are, and should be valued just as much for their opinions as you are. Additionally, (why I even bother to type anything to you is beyond me), what exactly are you being frustrated by? I hope you have something other than another failure at attempting to troll me lined up for an answer sir.
 

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I have said for a long time that EM Event item should be shard bound.

I am heart brokenly watching a Museum full of Legends Event Items get toted off to Pacific.

I don't know the person very well that got Weezer's account other than he has ties with Pacific Auction House and WRR.

I'm not sure about account binding them because it'd be sad to see pieces of a shard's history disappear. However I vehemently opposed and dispise the Bazillion gold rares trade. I have found many rares traders to have the morals of a Ferengi Pirate!!!

Maybe Account and shard bound are the way to go.

I don't really have any anwsers just more questions and plenty of comments.
 

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Again - They already TRIED No Trade - No Drop items. It FAILED horribly. The reaction to it was HUGE and VERY negative. People HATED the idea.

It was Season 7 in 2007.

Europa:
Obsidian Champion sash III "No Drop", "No Trade" (1)
Obsidian Contender sashes III "No Drop", "No Trade"(8)
Obsidian Hero sash III (1) "No Drop", "No Trade"
Obsidian Outsider sashes III "No Drop", "No Trade"(2)
Obsidian Qualifier sashes III "No Drop", "No Trade" (4)

Oceania:
Member of the Champion Hunting Team "No Trade", "No Drop" Some were changed to Sandles (10)


And as far as I know, it was never tried again, nor should it ever be tried again. Its a horrible idea.

Event items, like it or not, help distribute gold between the rich and the poor, which the market needs.
 

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Event items, like it or not, help distribute gold between the rich and the poor, which the market needs.
This. You can further add to this quote by saying ANY item (crafted, peerless drop, whatever else it may be), helps to distribute gold between players in a player economy.
 

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I have said for a long time that EM Event item should be shard bound.

I am heart brokenly watching a Museum full of Legends Event Items get toted off to Pacific.

Maybe Account and shard bound are the way to go.

This is sad to hear of honestly, I hate to see any shard lose it's "history" like that. Shard bound is something I would be for {puts on flame proof suit for the rares fest folk that are gonna get him now}. Although I can only imagine the pain in the arse it would be for the Dev's to get it up and going. Sadly something that will probably never happen. Although if there were a good number of high end collectors still left on Legends maybe the person would not be xsharding them *shrugs*
 

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Event Items = Transfer Token Sales

Take that away, and your dealing a pretty big blow to money EA makes, which in turn is a blow to UO.
 

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Something else to mention.. What if someone amasses this vast amount of these EM items and decorates his house with them and just up and quits paying for his or her subscription? The House decays and boom.. all those "account bound" EM items will decay right along with the house, and we loose that "history" of the shard right along with another subscription. A whole other aspect of the discussion that doesn't seem like anyone seems to care about.
 

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Event Items = Transfer Token Sales

Take that away, and your dealing a pretty big blow to money EA makes, which in turn is a blow to UO.
The cost and time for Messana to run the EM program + cost to pay EMs, just to make the 5% who participate in events happy + sell some transfer tokens, would be better spent in Messana + extra developers instead spending time to create events and new content to keep 100% of players happy and still subscribing.
 

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The cost and time for Messana to run the EM program + cost to pay EMs, just to make the 5% who participate in events happy + sell some transfer tokens, would be better spent in Messana + extra developers instead spending time to create events and new content to keep 100% of players happy and still subscribing.

You honestly dont know any facts at all do you? Do you even know what they "Pay" EM's? Removing the EM program, or making Event items account bound isnt going to get us Extra Developers and new Content.
 

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The cost and time for Messana to run the EM program + cost to pay EMs, just to make the 5% who participate in events happy + sell some transfer tokens, would be better spent in Messana + extra developers instead spending time to create events and new content to keep 100% of players happy and still subscribing.

You honestly dont know any facts at all do you? Do you even know what they "Pay" EM's? Removing the EM program, or making Event items account bound isnt going to get us Extra Developers and new Content.
Agreed..... infact it would do the opposite. I for one would be totally bored with the lack of things coming from EA.

Had it not been for the EM's of GL's making the whole story arc for Queen Dawn more interesting and fun to participate in.... dozens of folk would have cared less... and not gotten the expansion.

Infact many might have quit. Out of disappointment and shear boredom... add into that the fact that when Illshenar was created and introduced much of that went without proper storylines... heck there is still quite a bit in that land that has ZERO explanation... You may like playing a game without substance but I kinda like to have a good story to my game.

I enjoyed the Casca arc.... why Because the EM's made it fun. How about the invasion of Britain? Or the City invasions.... much of that lacked much story at all... was just a grind meant to be dealt with until it was over... people left Britain and didn't look back.... and no one really cared if the city became overrun... When the Cities were being invaded all anyone cared about was getting the unique items.... nothing more. There was no meaning to them and no plot... Just a grind.

That's not what I play for.

As for the trading of items sometimes I too wish they were shard bound... though I really do like having the nice Dark Elf Sword on my table. Sadly though it's not the items that upsets me about the whole thing... it's the behavior of the players who seek to make a profit off them.
 

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I have said for a long time that EM Event item should be shard bound.

I am heart brokenly watching a Museum full of Legends Event Items get toted off to Pacific.

Maybe Account and shard bound are the way to go.

This is sad to hear of honestly, I hate to see any shard lose it's "history" like that. Shard bound is something I would be for {puts on flame proof suit for the rares fest folk that are gonna get him now}. Although I can only imagine the pain in the arse it would be for the Dev's to get it up and going. Sadly something that will probably never happen. Although if there were a good number of high end collectors still left on Legends maybe the person would not be xsharding them *shrugs*
The original owner quit, and gave his account to this person. This new person plays Pacific.

Sadly small shards like Legends, Baja, Origin and Lake Austin to name a few have become to quote one particularly nasty xsharder I crossed paths with "lame farm shard with events".

I'm barely able to pay for my accounts, much less buy 5 billion gold to buy the contents of the museum back. If I had the money I'd do it, but ya know eating, toliet paper, pet food and keeping gas water & power on take priority over UO. :( Such is Life
 

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You honestly dont know any facts at all do you? Do you even know what they "Pay" EM's? Removing the EM program, or making Event items account bound isnt going to get us Extra Developers and new Content.
At a minimum, if Mesanna didnt have to manage the EM program, she would spend more time on creating new content and events for 100% of players instead of just the 5% of players that participate in events. What is more important to UO, to keep 5% happy or to keep 100% happy and paying?
 

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At a minimum, if Mesanna didnt have to manage the EM program, she would spend more time on creating new content and events for 100% of players instead of just the 5% of players that participate in events. What is more important to UO, to keep 5% happy or to keep 100% happy and paying?
Its hilarious that you think this.
 

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At a minimum, if Mesanna didnt have to manage the EM program, she would spend more time on creating new content and events

Really? Man... How many hours during a work week do you think it would take someone to manage the EM team? 16 hours max? Even IF it took her the full 40 hours a week to manage them, she strikes me as the type that can't shut her head down when she clocks out. I would be more than willing to bet even as she lays down to go to sleep ideas jump in her head.
 

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I love how this "5% of the subscribers attend em events" statement/figure keeps coming up...

Hey, here is another percentage, you are 100% wrong.

NO ONE except EA/Mythic knows subscription numbers and even if you DID know the correct #, how the HELL could you give an accurate number of who attends EM events?

They are on every shard, which are across many timezones, and it would be a full time job JUST TO COME UP WITH THIS NUMBER...

So you can throw all the %'s around you want, anyone with half a brain knows you are just making numbers up to suit your argument...

The EM program is one of the few bright spots this game has had over the last few years, and bashing it and the people that have put so much hard work unto it just b/c you can't figure out how to NOT DIE in a PVM event to get looting rights is NOT THE REST OF OUR PROBLEM.

This thread is so far into lala land... well, it's hopeless even arguing the point.
 

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Again - They already TRIED No Trade - No Drop items. It FAILED horribly. The reaction to it was HUGE and VERY negative. People HATED the idea.

It was Season 7 in 2007.

Europa:
Obsidian Champion sash III "No Drop", "No Trade" (1)
Obsidian Contender sashes III "No Drop", "No Trade"(8)
Obsidian Hero sash III (1) "No Drop", "No Trade"
Obsidian Outsider sashes III "No Drop", "No Trade"(2)
Obsidian Qualifier sashes III "No Drop", "No Trade" (4)

Oceania:
Member of the Champion Hunting Team "No Trade", "No Drop" Some were changed to Sandles (10)


And as far as I know, it was never tried again, nor should it ever be tried again. Its a horrible idea.

Event items, like it or not, help distribute gold between the rich and the poor, which the market needs.
Can't remember EMs in 2007, Thought they ended in 06, Maybe this was something else?
 

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Ok, to all the Siege people:

Why don't you have an EM?

Was it lack of attendance by the Siege populous?

Or is EA/Mythic simply picking on you by denying you EM events?

I honestly don't know.

And if EM events meant SO much to you, enough to write paragraph upon paragraph on Stratics, then maybe after this long without an EM on Seige you would have made a character on another shard to participate....
Wish we had the answer for that as to why Siege
does not get or KEEP any EMs like other shards get.
But it is simply more that folks on Siege, would like to have
[some EM events too] like other shards get to have,
wanting the same equal treatment to HAVE EM events,
at all in the first place,
than wanting any goodies one may acquire, from any EM visit/event.

Some few of us [DO play] on 2 shards, full time playing, on 2 shards.
I been active on Chesapeake since 1998, and on Siege since 2004.

So ummm *blushes* some one like myself,
last seen a real active EM on Chesapeake,
for the past Easter event,
where we all got bonzai bushes and dragon eggs
if we went a hunting for them.

I had not actually run into a real EM in game, for some time,
but instead of saying ... Happy Easter to the EM,
I shouted 'WHAT ABOUT SIEGE ?' :(

I felt bad, that I did not even say 'Happy Easter' to the EM,
but instead, auto-reacted and I just shoutedly blurted it out,

"What about SIEGE ?
Don't we even get an EASTER, too, like every other shard ?"

Luckily the EMs
and that easter event in UO, this past spring
DID take place on Siege, ALSO
but we have not seen any EMs since, I don't think.

But yeh they come, they even build homes on Siege,
like they do on other shards, and then, we never see them [again] !

No clue why that is per say, that they, EA UO MYTHIC,
can not muster up a perma EM or two for Siege,
or to KEEP any EMs actively working there, on Siege TOO.
Perhaps they just no longer can fathom
their one faceted, fellucca only
unique rule-setted shard called Siege Perilous, any longer ? :confused:
 

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^^^to poster above...hehehe

hippy communes were way over rated !

I grew up in that era of ANTI-ESTABLISMENT-ISM
The spouters of non conformity all conformed to the same things,
thus committing the vile act of conforming anyhow as non conformists
conforming to non conformism.

I opted to non conform to both the conformists
AND the non conformists both alike, back then.
Opted to use my OWN independant braincells,
for creating my own lifestyle.
Mob mentalities/ sometimes 'the majority rules'
rules, oft do not mean those neccessarily are the best paths, to take.

And some of them communal old hippie types,
seemingly spouting sparse living,
also went off the beaten path *alone*
to become billionares, creating new stuffs
like microsoft and window$$$ too !

:)

I do not feel there is a way to control or nix the billion
trillion or million trading of EM items at all per say.

Wasn't it Barnum and Bailey whom once said:
A sucker is born every minute
And they ran, carnivals and circuses !

Come see the bearded lady with the lizard skin...
10 bucks enter the tent now to see this wonder of strange oddities !!!
And sure enough someone plunk down 10 bucks
to go see the bearded lady with the lizard skin !

Okkkkkkkkk whatever !!

Personally I do not feel once the genie is released out of the bottle
that ya can slap em back into their bottles again !
Even if we COULD do that, someone later on is gonna rub the bottle
and bring them genies will be back out of their captivity again !!

If they could restrict it to shard only, then those whom got some EM event on say Catskills, and then transferred over to Chesapeake,
they could not take their bluered purpley Catskills EM cat statue thingies over to Chesapeake when they transferred perma like.
My guild mate perma transferred from Catskills
with her EM Cat statue..
perhaps if something was ACCT BOUND as is, it is not,
so atm what would stop her from selling it, IF she wanted to do so ??

If folks have the gp to blow, and want to buy whatevers for trillions,
it's their money.
I DO NOT cuz I am just not into a lot of those things as it is anyhow.

Yet IF I saw some item that I DID want to buy and had the gp to blow,
I probably would blow the gp ON it, whatever it was
that maybe I was wanting to buy. :)

But then again when I see some silly pixel whatevers for trillions,
I think to myself, only a dummy might buy that item, [at those prices] !!!
It isn't me !
'Some' mega sellings of EM and other in game items, remind me of
*snake oil* salesmen at the carnie !! Sucker born every min !

Don't think there is any real way to control the *insanity*
that has become UO lately of pixel crack addictions
and the high prices some items will go for,
and what other folks may be willing to pay, for said items !

Im'a sure someone's gonna sell em
some swampland in Florida
or Trinsic Swamps
but ya never know, perhaps the buyer can put up a castle there
or someone maybe could strike oil, under that swamp, too !!

BUYER BEWARE ! :mf_prop:
 

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Just think for a moment why this game is still running after 14 years:

1. Is it because of the graphics engine? Probably not.

2. If its not the prior then you need to think what makes this game different than the other ones currently out there that still attract enough players for EA Mythic to consider it profitable and is willing to back it. To me, they are:

3. FREEDOM

4. Owning Houses, i.e. large storage space

5. Having the prior means ability to horde

6. Which means hording small items first then more and more expensive ones.

Start taking these things away with your suggestions and you will see the end of UO. Be careful what you wish for.

I understand there are players from all over the world that posts here but sorry folks, the American way has always been those who work the hardest will tend to get the best.

"Everyone wants to bang the Prom-Queen and not the Runner-up". Folks here (in the USA) shoot for the best and not the rest.
 

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Event Items = Transfer Token Sales

Take that away, and your dealing a pretty big blow to money EA makes, which in turn is a blow to UO.
HAHA! Who actually buys xfer tokens from EA? Broker sites sell for 50-60% of the cost and if you are like me..I just buy them in game for gold. 17-20m.
 

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HAHA! Who actually buys xfer tokens from EA? Broker sites sell for 50-60% of the cost and if you are like me..I just buy them in game for gold. 17-20m.

Prom's point is still a valid one tho. Someone, somewhere has to buy them from EA. Even if it's at a bundled reduced cost.
 

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OMG OMG EA made $5000/yr selling transfer tokens because of the EM program.

How significant is that $5000/yr? In the last 2 years, UO has lost over 1/2 of its p(l)ayers. Lets just say thats 35000 p(l)ayers.
35000 * 12 * 13 = $5460000 or $5.46 million lost per year

Again, is it better to keep the 5% happy, and imo 5% is being generous, or to keep the 100% happy? I'm not saying that it hasnt been run well or EMs are lazy, I'm just saying spending money to put in new lights does not fix a big leaking roof.
 

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Just a note - except for stuff like the recent High Seas at cut price, EA don't do reduced price bundles. Items sold at less than they cost from EA have a nasty tendency to have been gotten by less than honest means.
 

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Such a HOT topic- I am not seeing much much opposition about making EM items available to everyone, except for the few rare collectors. So are we going to feed the masses with EM items? I think the time is now. New quest/New items spawning/include them in level 7+ tmaps this could actually make a rare collector profession. Let's get creative!
 

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Doubtful that will ever happen. All we need to do is look back just a few weeks ago and see what happened to the Item Bless deeds that are available from the turn in now. They were renamed so the value of the old ones would still be held. Thankfully, it seems the higher ups understand the issue on that type stuff.


@ HD - I really would like to know how you come up with the figures you throw out. While I agree UO has lost some players over that time frame I doubt it is close to half. Especially when you take into account how many "youngs" are seen around, and how many 'old vets' have been coming back over the last year.


@ Petra - Did not know that.. hmmmmmmm Just always assumed they cut bulk deals. Thanks for the heads up. :thumbup1:
 

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It came up some years ago - I was a just a poster, not staff then. I asked how come one of the brokers (site no longer in existence) was able to sell gametime for less than EA did. One of the then developers answered me with the info I just gave you.

Shortly after a lot of gametime bought with stolen credit cards got blocked.
 

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I would trade all the EM items on every prodo shard ever created for just a EM on siege lol Since we dont have events there does that make our EM items worth 10 trillion gold? Plus they cant be transfered so thier one of a kind on the shard! Our sandles that turn you into a orc are worth a lot!! I think theres only like 20 of them if that!! weeeeeeeeeee we are rolling in rares!! :stretcher::popcorn::mf_prop::gee:
CZ there are a lot more than 20. Between O-S and SMuRFY we had like 40 pairs from that event.
 

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OMG OMG EA made $5000/yr selling transfer tokens because of the EM program.

How significant is that $5000/yr? In the last 2 years, UO has lost over 1/2 of its p(l)ayers. Lets just say thats 35000 p(l)ayers.
35000 * 12 * 13 = $5460000 or $5.46 million lost per year

Again, is it better to keep the 5% happy, and imo 5% is being generous, or to keep the 100% happy? I'm not saying that it hasnt been run well or EMs are lazy, I'm just saying spending money to put in new lights does not fix a big leaking roof.
HD, either stop posting these BS numbers or give us the sources for them. Otherwise I might be inclined to say your numbers are way off and in fact it's not 5% but 75% based on absolutely nothing, much like your numbers.
 

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Can't remember EMs in 2007, Thought they ended in 06, Maybe this was something else?
Its in the list under 2007...but I got the Season wrong, it was Season 5. But the point remains the same, they tried it, it got a very bad reception, the end.

Close, but no. Europa has done those items atleast 3 times. The first being the one you saw is listed uner 2004, then under 2006, and again under 2007.

The items I listed were from Season 5 - 2007
 

Martyna Zmuir

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A bunch of unsubstantiated crap

Seriously, stop spewing ridiculous crap that you can't possiby back up. We get that tin foil hat conspiracies are your schtick, but your drivel has gotten so very tiresome.

GL has an obscene number if people participating each and every week, far more then one could find in the entirity of Shame at any given time. People enjoy EM events, regardless of the the griefing and item issues, they add dynamism into what is otherwise a static world.

Go back to drooling over your NetDragon fantasies. Preferably in silence.
 

GalenKnighthawke

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Seriously, stop spewing ridiculous crap that you can't possiby back up. We get that tin foil hat conspiracies are your schtick, but your drivel has gotten so very tiresome.

GL has an obscene number if people participating each and every week, far more then one could find in the entirity of Shame at any given time. People enjoy EM events, regardless of the the griefing and item issues, they add dynamism into what is otherwise a static world.

Go back to drooling over your NetDragon fantasies. Preferably in silence.
The best evidence that he is wrong is simply this: The program has continued this long.

I guarantee you that, while EA may not like or understand UO, they can do, and have likely done, a simple cost-benefit analysis.

The result: The program has continued.

-Galen's player
 

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Well after this weekend I am DEFINATELY for shard or account bound EM event items. Either that or NO ITEMS period.

A museum on Legends shard that had what might have been the most complete set of Legends' event items going back to the first EM program.

The person who bought the account...Which I might add is NOW ILLEGAL according to EA...would not even consider letting Legends keep the shard specific items. My sister Luc of Legends worked very hard to the get to gether a group of players to help purchase these items.

Incredibly the guy turned down 3 BILLION gold, a Fel Castle, A Luna house diagional from luna gate and 11 yr old UO acct.

I admit I was a smartass and popped off in general chat, after a returning player told me this person was saying Woody of Moonglow had died in real life. NO ONE on Legends had heard this before and supposedly Woody's been dead fro several years.

I publicly apologized in game last night, and this person continues to be rude and abrasive.

As far as I'm concern my opinon of of rares traders are that they are the GREEDIEST, MOST SEFLISH OF PLAYERS and are single handly destroying UO.

If it wasn't for these people there would be a need for dupes and hacks. People either dupe the event items so they can sell them for Billions and billions of gold or they are hacking/duping gold so they can buy these items.

Think about it....makes sense doesn't it?

Question: does everyone get to the point where you find less reasons to log in?
 

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A museum on Legends shard that had what might have been the most complete set of Legends' event items going back to the first EM program.

My sister Luc of Legends worked very hard to the get to gether a group of players to help purchase these items.

Incredibly the guy turned down 3 BILLION gold, a Fel Castle, A Luna house diagional from luna gate and 11 yr old UO acct.

Truly, sorry for Legends loss. I do admit to having a few items from other shards in my very limited collection. It was not until this thread popped up that I began evaluating if xsharding them was right or not, in my opinion, and for my collection. I for one will no longer obtain any event item that was from another shard. During my thinking I found myself thinking a shards history is worth more to me than my pixel addiction. I know when it comes to the situation I amount to not even a drop in a 55 gallon drum, but hey, it's a start :mf_prop:
 

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Honestly...if EA really wants to do something about it. Just make the items shard bound. Ends a lot of the people from going shard to shard and just hitting up EM events. Getting the items and selling them. If not just let people do what they want. They got the item and in reality..you may not like they pulled the item off of Sonoma, Napa, Legends, Atl, GL, or whatever shards you play on...but it is there item in game.

On a side note. I am sorry that the museum on Legends got ripped apart Jirel. I personally tried for a while to start collecting Sonoma EM items but it seemed as if most people who had them would not let them go or an xsharder wanted ungodly amounts of money for them. I have since stopped trying to get items I do not have and simply kept the few I do. Most I am trying to sell to a fellow Sonoma player who is doing what I was trying too and make a museum with Sonoma EM items and server births.
 

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We definatly need some chill in this thread too.
 

wanderer1origin

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lol dint u quit 18 times cause of uo !!
well here is number 19
he sold his account and buyer doenst like you huh cant figure why

live with it
isnt game changing is a choice,
bound CRAP leeds us to wow we reLLY DONT WISH NEED THAT!!!!!!!!!!

stop spaming rest us your issues lol!!!!!!!!!!!

game is game Play or please quit!!!!!!!!!!!! again !!!!!!!!!



Well after this weekend I am DEFINATELY for shard or account bound EM event items. Either that or NO ITEMS period.

A museum on Legends shard that had what might have been the most complete set of Legends' event items going back to the first EM program.

The person who bought the account...Which I might add is NOW ILLEGAL according to EA...would not even consider letting Legends keep the shard specific items. My sister Luc of Legends worked very hard to the get to gether a group of players to help purchase these items.

Incredibly the guy turned down 3 BILLION gold, a Fel Castle, A Luna house diagional from luna gate and 11 yr old UO acct.

I admit I was a smartass and popped off in general chat, after a returning player told me this person was saying Woody of Moonglow had died in real life. NO ONE on Legends had heard this before and supposedly Woody's been dead fro several years.

I publicly apologized in game last night, and this person continues to be rude and abrasive.

As far as I'm concern my opinon of of rares traders are that they are the GREEDIEST, MOST SEFLISH OF PLAYERS and are single handly destroying UO.

If it wasn't for these people there would be a need for dupes and hacks. People either dupe the event items so they can sell them for Billions and billions of gold or they are hacking/duping gold so they can buy these items.

Think about it....makes sense doesn't it?

Question: does everyone get to the point where you find less reasons to log in?
 

kelmo

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Locked fer now... Maybe it will be opened when I am convinced ye folks really want to discuss real issues and not personal ones.
 
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