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Template I worked on for fun, but getting serious about.

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TheGrayGhost

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Ok This started out as me goofing around but I'm really starting to like the template. Wanted some imput from you guys on what you think.

120 Bushido
120 Parry
100 Anatomy
120 Magery
120 Eval
120 Med

I figured in lue of tactics I would use bushido to give me some sort of special attacks and anatomy boost my melee dmg, not only that but I get defensive wrestling in case my -mage weapon gets disarmed. I know resisting spells is important in PvP but I was wondering if I could get by with apples and pots. I get the best of both worlds kind of with this template. With a +25 Stat scroll that gives me 255 max stats atm, 125 Int 80 dex 50 Str. Mainly I've been using this for PvE but was starting to wonder how it would fair in PvP.

It gives me at least some melee prowess to go with my magic. With Lightning strike I get max HCI, Evasion is situational, confidence doesn't hurt at all, and yadda yadda yadda.


In any case, it's a fun template for PvE so far and I was just wondering how you guys thought it may fair in PvP and if you had any advise on gear choices. Crystalline Ring of course with +20 Magery and Focus, sdi, HR 5 and MR 3 it's pretty much a must.


And yes I know I only have a 35% parry chance with a 1 handed weapon but I figured with the -mage weapon + magery items and parry + Bushido to give me the 35% without a shield so I could chug potions made it worth while to look into. The defensive wrestling if I'm disarmed + the dmg inc from anatomy isn't bad either.

Anyways thanks for taking the time to read this and any imput is welcomed.
 

Farsight

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The one thing I would look into adding to the template would be 50 points in any given weapon skill. This will give you such bonusses as being able to use evasion (as long as your mage weapon is the same as your skill type) or using honor to gain luck in PvM.
 
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NickyDishes

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drop anatomy and fit in a weapon skill this way like he said youll have evasion plus defense.........to be honest tho your gonna get smoked in pvp....this template doesnt go far at all in the pvp world
 

Lynk

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Drop anatomy, 50 weapon skill, lower med to 50, and put the other 120 points in resist.

Balance out your stats. Go with 100 or so mana, drop dex down to 65 (use agility to get to above 80), get around 95 STR (115ish HP after items).

Then you'll be able to survive in PvP, but offensive dmg output will be low so team up with some people.
 
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TheGrayGhost

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drop anatomy and fit in a weapon skill this way like he said youll have evasion plus defense.........to be honest tho your gonna get smoked in pvp....this template doesnt go far at all in the pvp world

Yeah, I more than likely will but I just can't do the same template over and over that many times lol. I would rather try and fail than give in and make yet another clone :beer:


The one thing I would look into adding to the template would be 50 points in any given weapon skill. This will give you such bonusses as being able to use evasion (as long as your mage weapon is the same as your skill type) or using honor to gain luck in PvM.
As far as the 50 weapon skill, I was under the impression that evasion was reliant on tactics, anatomy and Bushido?

And the whole honor/perfection system was based on bushido as well instead of a weapon skill correct?

Just trying to clarrify if it's something I have grossly misunderstood in either your response or in the mechanics description. How does 50 weapon skill aid me over the anatomy?


Drop anatomy, 50 weapon skill, lower med to 50, and put the other 120 points in resist.

Balance out your stats. Go with 100 or so mana, drop dex down to 65 (use agility to get to above 80), get around 95 STR (115ish HP after items).

Then you'll be able to survive in PvP, but offensive dmg output will be low so team up with some people.
Again, not trying to discount what you guys are saying about the 50 weapon skill just trying to understand what exactly it brings to the table. As far as resists go would it be possible to get by without it if I'm using pots, apples (acts as remove curse), and trapped boxes (removes para correct?). And yeah I see what your saying about my HP.


Edited to add: Would it be worth it to get a Hiryu for PvP with 120 bushido?
 
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Cloak&Dagger

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Evasions effectiveness raises when you have gm tactics and anatomy, but in order to use evasion you need 50 weapon skill. Many people get by with out resist, but at the same time everyone will tell you to pick it up. The template is not bad, just do not expect to be soloing the world and what not, as Lynk said go out with a group of other players.
 
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TheGrayGhost

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Cloak‡1304319 said:
Evasions effectiveness raises when you have gm tactics and anatomy, but in order to use evasion you need 50 weapon skill. Many people get by with out resist, but at the same time everyone will tell you to pick it up. The template is not bad, just do not expect to be soloing the world and what not, as Lynk said go out with a group of other players.
Ahhh, thats what I wasn't understanding. So you can't even use Evasion without the 50 weapon skill. Thats something I didn't know. Taking that into consideration I may add it to my template.
 

Lynk

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Going without resist is OK if you rely on bandaids, but you'll be relying on magic to heal. Without resist, one mana vamp and you'll be dead in the water.
 
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TheGrayGhost

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Going without resist is OK if you rely on bandaids, but you'll be relying on magic to heal. Without resist, one mana vamp and you'll be dead in the water.
This is something I was hoping to counter with the following.

with my MR and Med I get 2.67 mana a second + the Crystalline rings focus bonus which brings me up to 2.77 Mana a second.

I have LMC 40% so Greater Heal costs me 7 mana and Confidence costs me 6 mana.

And thats not taking into account that all of the weapons I will be using (I've been collecting -magery weapons for a bit now oO) have 80+ mana leech on them.

So my hope is, I get mana vamped and I either use my Heavy Xbow or melee weapon depending on distance from the mage and gain some mana that way. In the mean time I pop a pot 20-25 health there, 2 seconds after the Vamp I can use confidence giving me a nice Health regen for a few seconds 3 seconds after that I'm back to Greater Heal spell. In that time period I should get a few hits in with my HML giving me a bit of Mana back as well. Until I'm back on my feet for nuking I can either go at them with melee or Archery. With the Dmg buff from Anatomy and the Lightning strike from Bushido I should be able to do decent dmg to them until I'm in Nuke mode again.

And if all else fails I can use the dexxer tactic of simply running off screen.


Aside from that no, this isn't a solo template. Me, wife, daughter and our son play together. Wife and Son are Mages, Daughters a Dexxer and I'm going for a hybrid sort of.
 

Lynk

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If you move forward with the template you should abandon all hopes and thoughts of you being a hybrid and ever using your weapons for an offensive advantage.

Think as yourself as a mage, a very defensive mage, who can tank all sorts of damage. You'll basically be a meatshield for your group.
 
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TheGrayGhost

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Cloak‡1304319 said:
Evasions effectiveness raises when you have gm tactics and anatomy, but in order to use evasion you need 50 weapon skill. Many people get by with out resist, but at the same time everyone will tell you to pick it up. The template is not bad, just do not expect to be soloing the world and what not, as Lynk said go out with a group of other players.
Just an update on this, you either have to have 50 weapon skill OR a shield equipped. Which doesn't make any sense to me seeing as Bushido lowers your chance to block with a shield lol.
 
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