template help please

[YuriGaDaisukiDa]

hey guys, wondering if i could get some template help.

My current template is realy nice for PVE, and its fun to just mess around with, but I cant compete in pvp that well. Im hoping I can get a template that allows for me to at least put up a fight, without sacrificing my main skills.

80 taming
80 lore
80 vet
60 magery
That fills up 300, I like magery for gating, but it isnt required, and I dont usew high end pets for pvp, only for pve, then I use jewls.

120 peace
120 music
I love these skills, And even though its not so great for pvp, I like to be able to peace other tamers pets. I probly wont sacrifice them.

80 hiding
80 stealth
nice, but if i can make my template to better take care of myself, maybe I can do without.

So as far as sacrificing goes:

taming: I was considering dropping taming, and getting 100 vet/80 lore, and using forest ostards, or maybe dire wolf/dark wolf, that would free up skill points, without hurting me too bad, since I use frenzieds right now anyway. Also, you can use bakes with dark wolf right?

Magery I mainly use for gates and heals, I could sac it for something that will keep me alive better, and just hoof it when I need to go places, lil hard to drag pets around though.

stealth: good for staying alive, but for this class, it just makes me invisible and useless, rather than just useless, plus my pets following me around are a dead giveaway.

Skills I am considering
Necromancy/Spirit speak
Spellweaving
magery/eval
ninjitsu
detect hidden (stealther dont have mounts, so good bait for frenzieds)

base template
120 music
120 peace
80 vet (atleast) I need to rez pets, even if they are forest ostards!
80 lore (atleast)

So i have 300 points to spare possibly, what do you all think?

 

[Draxous]

Since your characters a tamer...

You should have the following skills on Soul Stones:

110 animal lore
110 animal taming
80 vet
120 magery
100 eval
100 med
100 resist
100 hiding
80 stealth
120 ninja
120 bushido
120 swords
120 tactics
120 music
120 discord


This allows you to run 4 different tamer templates as well as an assassin template... the templates are as follows:

Mage Tamer
Chiv Bok Tamer
Ninja Stealth Tamer
Disco Tamer
Bok Ninja Stealther

See one of Duke SP's "I need help with PvP tamer" threads if you want more specifics on the template to run.

All templates listed assume 720 skill points... you can tweak it for younger accts.

 

[YuriGaDaisukiDa]

how much detect hidden do you need to find stealthers?

 

[Taylor]

Area spell? Reveal?

 

[nightstalker22]

Area spell? Reveal?

those only work if you are a murderer, or if you are blue and attempting to reveal a murderer.

Area effect spells when cast by a blue will not harm other blues or reveal them.

 

[nightstalker22]

how much detect hidden do you need to find stealthers?

GM it or you're wasting points.

Even at GM it may take 3 or 4 tries if they are 120 stealth.

If you dabble in it, you'd be better off going red and casting area spells such as earthquake or using conflag pots, spellweaving wildfires or essence of wind. You could also cast many poison fields and hope they run into it for you.

 

[YuriGaDaisukiDa]

im thinking this

120 peace
120 music
100 lore
80 taming
80 vet
70 stealth
30 hiding
100 magery

I can use high end pets with jewls if i need, but usualy stick to ostards, and can invis stealth.

ill have 120 magery if i can get my hands on a crystaline ring as well

 

[Draxous]

im thinking this

120 peace
120 music
100 lore
80 taming
80 vet
70 stealth
30 hiding
100 magery

I can use high end pets with jewls if i need, but usualy stick to ostards, and can invis stealth.

ill have 120 magery if i can get my hands on a crystaline ring as well

If you have magery, you will want fast casting and fast cast recovery jewels. That will get expensive quick with +taming. That's a PvM template you described and it's semi-broken.

Your only real way to heal is magery.

If you go red (looking to hunt stealthers?) that template will not serve you well at all.

From the look of it, you are new (700 skill points.) I would suggest this.

110 animal lore
110 animal taming
85 vet
110 magery
110 ninjitsu
100 hiding
75 stealth

Use swords of prosperity, staff of magi or pyros. Wear 0/2 and 1/2 jewels (2/4 casting) because ninjistu is also effected by fc and fcr. When in animal form, switch to greater heal wand (equip last) macro and chug. Go out of form and cast for heals if needed. Remember to cast protection (you have no resist and are casting at 0/4 with wand equipped, anyway.)

This is great for PvM and PvP. Your best chance at being the most versitile.

Once you complete this temp... you can move onto others if you like. Soul stones are the next best thing since sliced bread.