[Macefighting] Template Critique: PvP Mace/Parry

[Taylor]

Never run a PvP melee toon, but I've seen plenty of advice given for them. Here's what I'm thinking:

120 macing
120 parry
120 resist
100 tactics
100 anatomy
90 heal
70 chiv

No bush means no pots. However, I'd plan to have 150 stam heals and 4/6 chiv. Prolly wear mace and shield, jackal's, RBC, fey legs, quiver of infinity, conjurer's for arties. Shield with 1fc, 10+ hci, 10+ dci. Mace with fc1, hla, hit spell. Ring and bracelet both with 1/3, hci, dci, possibly lmc.

I don't want to spend time and $$ making a sitting duck, but I'm also not content to run a PvP archer/tamer and necro/mage forever. Want to try the nitty-gritty dueling. Any thoughts/comments are much appreciated.

 

[Cloak&Dagger]

You should invest in orni and a 1/3 ring instead of a weapon with 1fc.

If you go with having a weapon with 1fc you are doing two things, limiting yourself to all weapons having to have 1fc and limiting yourself to the weapons you can use as you may not find weapons with all the mods you want or need. Macers are heavy on the SSI anything after that would be hit spell, DI, dci (to go over the cap if you are not already) mana leech, or stamin leech (could even go with both but mana leech is better in my opinion, tho it only leeches like 1-3 mana at best haha) hla and hld.

Not saying to try for all those mods, but those are the various mods I would pick from, and not to limit yourself to weapons with 1fc will subtract from total available mods and limit the over amount of weapons you can use.

 

[Taylor]

Well, ornies are easy to come by. My concern was that I couldn't fit enough hci/dci on the suit w/o a hci/dci bracelet. You think I can do it with an orny? Specifically, I'm thinking when I get hit w/ hld.

 

[Capt.E]

I ran this exact template and it was fun, I used the fc/fcr shield 1/2 and a 1/3 ring and 1/1 brac that had both hci/dci on them was a great temp but I found drinking pots to be near impossible, which became more and more annoying. But I was almost unhittable by dexxers. Max lmc, mr 6-8, a decent mana pool and war axe:diamond mace was a good combo. most of the time I was 4/6 with fc1 on the mace

 

[Cloak&Dagger]

Well, ornies are easy to come by. My concern was that I couldn't fit enough hci/dci on the suit w/o a hci/dci bracelet. You think I can do it with an orny? Specifically, I'm thinking when I get hit w/ hld.

I run a similar set up and I use the orni. This is the Paladin build, minus the high Chiv for holy light.

You can get the dci/hci, but you will have to sacrafice the hld from your headpiece, which you can make up on most weapons. It is a bit of a give and take, and you *could* run with just 45dci, tho it is not recommended.

I admit things get more complicated as you try to get more and more mods, but it comes down to importance, Is hld more important than fc/fcr? Is it more important than DCI or HCI?

It is all about preference, I know some of my characters run with "lowered" hci or dci and some run with 0 hld it is all about perspective and how I am playing the particular template.

Edit: I also usually base my suits on other people having max mods, that means for me hld is useless as I always assume the opposition is going to have 60dci to counter hld. It is why I say it is based on preference and not really a "fact". Just wanted to add it cuase I know others give their opinions as if it is a "fact" and the end all be all of templates/items.

 

[Taylor]

I also usually base my suits on other people having max mods, that means for me hld is useless as I always assume the opposition is going to have 60dci to counter hld.

This is a good point that I hadn't thought of. Which head piece you recommending? Spirit of the totem would certainly my hp and hci.

 

[Cloak&Dagger]

This is a good point that I hadn't thought of. Which head piece you recommending? Spirit of the totem would certainly my hp and hci.

Yup that is the one I would recommend, or the folded steel glasses for dci, choice is yours.

 

[Taylor]

Sweet, tyvm for the thoughtful advice, to both of you.

 

[Cloak&Dagger]

You are most welcome.

 

[Capt.E]

I didn't want to come off as being a template Nazi I was only stating what I personally found to work well, but I totally agree there are a lot of options when it comes to setting up a pali dexxer you should try tweaking with your gear until you find something that works. I think that's true for just about any toon though

 

[Cloak&Dagger]

I didn't want to come off as being a template Nazi I was only stating what I personally found to work well, but I totally agree there are a lot of options when it comes to setting up a pali dexxer you should try tweaking with your gear until you find something that works. I think that's true for just about any toon though

Err, if you posted that in reply to my edit, then let me just say I did not mean you at all, your post did not even trigger my remark.

There are other people on the boards that post in this forum that will likely try to Critique what I had said so I simply pre-stated that what I say is based on how I prepare for pvping.

 

[Capt.E]

No worries, I always think it's funny when people tell me you really should do this or get a certain item. I think it's more importent to show them they have a bunch of options and let them figure it out, which is what you did

 

[Lynk]

SORRY GUYS BUT WHEN IT COMES TO BUILDING CHARS/SUITS ITS MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY

 

[Diomedes Artega]

SORRY GUYS BUT WHEN IT COMES TO BUILDING CHARS/SUITS ITS MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY

Because...?

 

[Taylor]

SORRY GUYS BUT WHEN IT COMES TO BUILDING CHARS/SUITS ITS MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY

Tell us something we don't know.

 

[Xel The Wanderer]

Solid template, and I've always loved Macing. I have a template similar to yours, and I opted for 120 Tactics, 90 Healing, 90 Anatomy with 4/6 casting. Works well in PvP and PvM. Have fun and kick some buttocks out there, Syrus.

 

[Taylor]

Thanks, Xel!

 

[Taylor]

I have another question. For quick healing, does my dex need to be 150, or am I ok with 150 stamina?

Even with 40 lmc and 8 or 9 mr, I'm kinda worried about mana. :-/

 

[Connor_Graham]

Dex determines healing speed. Stamina determines swing speed.

 

[Diomedes Artega]

I have another question. For quick healing, does my dex need to be 150, or am I ok with 150 stamina?

Even with 40 lmc and 8 or 9 mr, I'm kinda worried about mana. :-/

Then go with 140 dexterity and put the excess into your INT pool. 140 dexterity is the bottom cap for 4 second heals...which is the maximum.

 

[Taylor]

Awesome. Thanks, Connor and Dio. Appreciate the help!