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Swordsman Weapons

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calculator001

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So far I made an ornate with hml 52/hsl 40/ssi 20/di 39 and its fairly decent. The only problem is I'm not able to drink pots when I use it. Then I made a radiant scimitar with hml 34/hsl 36/ssi 20/di 39, but the dmg output is pretty low. I tried it on a regular cu and it worked fine, then I tried it on a paragon cu and just got my butt kicked. Any suggestions on a different 1h swords? Or is the specs on the radiant too low? Thanks.
 
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Azaroth-

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The ornate axe you have there is pretty nice.

25SSI is ideal minimum but 20 is still just fine I think.

But solo'ing a paragon cu involved much more than just a good weapon though. Assuming you have a samurai in vamp form, you still need a great suit with high resists, and on top of that, at least near capping and/or maxing your defence chance increase and hit chance increase. Even then it can still be difficult.

Utilize your bushido skills ala Lightning strike, counter attack... also enemy of one and consecrate weap, so you get max damage and then max health leech back. Your stamina makes a huge diff if that weapon is too slow or not too, what's your stamina?

I say your ornate axe is good enough for the task though, i like it better than the other weapon. But being able to kill the para cu involves a lot more than just your weapon. I think your axe is excellent.
 
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Connor_Graham

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I used my Elven Machete for soloing the Para Cu. One thing I notice that you're missing from both of your weapons is the combination of Stamina Leech and Mana Leech. Both are necessary. My machete has:

SL 26 (could stand to be higher, but this is what it has)
ML 49
SSI 20
DI 29

If you had an ornate axe with the same, but 30 SSI, the Cu would be a walk in the park. I haven't tried one yet with mine, but that's on the list of things to do. My axe is very similar to the machete, but has a much higher SL (48 I think) and 25 SSI.
 
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Maximinus Thrax

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So far I made an ornate with hml 52/hsl 40 /ssi 20/di 39... Then I made a radiant scimitar with hml 34/hsl 36 /ssi 20/di 39

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One thing I notice that you're missing from both of your weapons is the combination of Stamina Leech and Mana Leech .

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I think one thing you're missing is that he wrote it differently than you do.
 
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Connor_Graham

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Looking back you're right. He writes it backwards from the way most do so I didn't notice the first mod...
 
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Chango Pelon

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I had to go back and look as well, I missed it the first time.
 
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Azaroth-

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1h weapons cripple your bushido+parry ability compared to using a 2 handed weapon. Honestly I think you need to adapt to using pots less. If you need to drink a pot, then disarm the axe, wield 1h weapon, drink pot, disarm 1h weapon and re-arm axe.. just don't be caught with no weapon.

I do think though that while your 1h weapon lets you drink pots. Because its 1h you will get hit more than you will with your axe, cos you won't have the maximum parry affect using the one hander and this will cause a chain reaction that means you will simply end up healing and using more as a result of being hit more.

Axe = better parry, more damage = being hit less + more life leech and stayin' alive = winner
 
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Good_Ole_Lefty

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Here is a work around macro that allows you to drink pots with a 2 handed weapon or wep/shield. You will need uoassist. You need to set 2 macro's on the same key.

First macro - UO client Macro

Arm/disarm - "insert left or right hand"
delay 20
Arm/disarm - "same hand as line one"

UOAssist Macro - Set up

First stock your backpack with the type of potions you are going to use, plus an edge weapon.

Hit the record tab and record the following actions.

Double click the edge weapon
target yourself
double click the potion.
Stop recording.

Now you should have a macro something like this

Use item
target
use item

Insert a pause under target of 800 (can be adjusted for latency)
and the last use item into Use item type.

use item
target
pause 800
use item type

Now delete line one and 2 so that you have

pause 800
use item type.

Goto Keys and assign it the same key as the uo client macro and make sure pass to uo is checked. You have to make simular macros for each potion types.
 
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DooWootle

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Yuck!

Howabout this....

Arms you axe....Take the axe and pout in you pack....Arm your sword....Then!!!!!


Go into the UO Macro window....map a key...select arm last weapon. When you wan tot quaf a pot...hit that...arm the sword...drink the pot....hit it again and swap back to axe.

Yowzers!

Doo
 
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calculator001

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Sorry for the confusion with the weaps. And thank you for the cool macro, I'll try it out as soon as i get the chance. Back to the main topic, I recently made another radiant that has hml 46/hld 38/ssi 15/di 39 with 100% physical dmg. I tested it out on cu's and i really like it. I'm swinging at a decent speed, while could be faster, is adequate in hitting and leeching back enough life/mana. The main thing is I'm actually hitting a better amount with the +38 to hld (with my glasses its 68). This is my current weapon of choice, but maybe when i get the switch macro to work ill start using my ornate again.

BTW, thx for all the help I really appreciate the info. My goal atm is to still kill a peerless solo, which i havent done yet with my sampire. He's all skilled out and decked out with armor but I guess my skills/weapons isnt up to par so my attempts so far haven't been successful. I'll try again soon, though, with these new weapons I'm making.
 
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Good_Ole_Lefty

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Hitting 1 key is faster than 2-3. To each his own. This is a universal macro btw. Works with shields,bows and ornates.

I'm not much of a fan of arm last weapon. It gets bugged out with a disarm and you have to manualy set up 2 weapons again.
 
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imported_GFY

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If your really into radient scimitars, why don't you use the Soul Seeker for everything except undead. (the repond slayer vs undead is a big NO NO!)

With all the leeches you should be set even if your only using a 1 handed weapon.
 
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Maximinus Thrax

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1h weapons cripple your bushido+parry ability compared to using a 2 handed weapon.

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Chance of blocking with a 1-handed weapon: 35%
Chance of blocking with a 2-handed weapon: 40%

Not exactly a crippling effect, let's not be too dramatic here
 
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eolsunder1

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Yea i agree the 1 hand bushido vs the 2 hand isn't a huge difference, plus the 1 hander lets you use potions, which are a great backup in all situations. str boost, cures and heals, explodes for extra damage, what ever you like.
 
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Connor_Graham

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If your really into radient scimitars, why don't you use the Soul Seeker for everything except undead. (the repond slayer vs undead is a big NO NO!)

With all the leeches you should be set even if your only using a 1 handed weapon.

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There are 2 issues with Soul Seeker that I've found hinder it's usefulness against the very high end creatures. First is the fact that there's no DI, so unless your suit has 100%, you're missing out on quite a bit of damage. Second is the fact that it has life leech that is higher than the mana leech, so you have a redundancy with Sampires and end up leeching a lot less mana than with a runic crafted weapon.
 
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Cygnas

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Second is the fact that it has life leech that is higher than the mana leech, so you have a redundancy with Sampires and end up leeching a lot less mana than with a runic crafted weapon.

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I'm not sure if I understand what you are saying... that if the LL is higher than the ML while using vampire embrace, you won't get the full effect from the ML? I haven't noticed this, but I wasn't looking for it either. Are you sure that is correct? Or maybe I just don't understand what you are pointing out.
 
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Connor_Graham

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Second is the fact that it has life leech that is higher than the mana leech, so you have a redundancy with Sampires and end up leeching a lot less mana than with a runic crafted weapon.

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I'm not sure if I understand what you are saying... that if the LL is higher than the ML while using vampire embrace, you won't get the full effect from the ML? I haven't noticed this, but I wasn't looking for it either. Are you sure that is correct? Or maybe I just don't understand what you are pointing out.

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Since LL is higher, it goes off more, which keeps ML from going off. If the wep only has SL &amp; ML, then there's only 2 leeches to go off, and if stam is full, then only ML goes off, which is what you want. You're already leeching life as a Sampire, so you don't want it to hinder you leeching mana by it being on your weapon also.
 
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Maximinus Thrax

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I don't think that's right. You can have all 3 go off in the same hit, or none at all, or just 1, or any of the two. Then again, since the nerf to them, I haven't noticed any of the three working, so I could be wrong.
 
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slasherofveils

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I don't think that's right. You can have all 3 go off in the same hit, or none at all, or just 1, or any of the two. Then again, since the nerf to them, I haven't noticed any of the three working, so I could be wrong.

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thats because since the nerf they work one at a time. HSL is the most noticable however, as you see a full 100% effect from it still.
 
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Connor_Graham

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"thats because since the nerf they work one at a time."

Exactly. This is why I strongly suggest ONLY SL &amp; ML on a Sampire's weapon. They've already got LL going with Vamp form, so having it on a weapon blocks one of the ones that you need to go off from going off.
 
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Cygnas

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"thats because since the nerf they work one at a time."

Exactly. This is why I strongly suggest ONLY SL &amp; ML on a Sampire's weapon. They've already got LL going with Vamp form, so having it on a weapon blocks one of the ones that you need to go off from going off.

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Oh.. ahhh.... hrrrrrmmmm... I did not know that! And that explains a bit about why I'm not getting the leeches I expected!
 
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dorkuberalles

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so FoF was wrong? the devs said all three will work at the same time.
 
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Connor_Graham

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I'd like to know what the testing parameters were, and what the odds are that more than 1 will go off at once.
 
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imported_NBG

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Radiant scimitar can do enough damage for you to leech from, even against Dreadhorn it would be enough. The key is to not get hit too often and max DCI is a must. Another option is to get hit lower attack to go along with mana leech and stam leech. Finding such weapon is really hard but once you do find one, you should not have problems.

For Radiant scimitar I find that ssi property doesn't have to be there if you have high enough stam and overcap your DCI. Here are some of the different combinations that works really well.

ml/sl/hla/ssi/di ----- standard
ml/sl/hla/dci(10+)/di ------ high stam + DCI (use divine fury for ssi)
ml/hla/dci(10+)/di ------- high stam + DCI (use divine fury for ssi/stam)

hope this helps
 
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