swing speed increase.....

[athlon]

anyone have the formula for SSI in ticks? And do you round up or down when your tick is between 0 - .25 - .5 - 1?

I am 'guessing' the formula would be:

Attacking speed in seconds = roundup/rounddown(Weopon Speed in ticks - ((Weopon Speed in ticks * SSI percent) + (Stamina/120)))

So if i have an ornate axe with 25% SSI and i have 155 stamina, i *think* my swing speed every second would be:

x = round(3.5 - ((3.5 * .25) + (155/120)))
x = round(3.5 -(.875) + (1.29))
x = round(3.5 - 2.165)
x = round(1.335)

so rounding it down, i would swing it once every 1.25 seconds. rounding up, i would swing once every 1.5 seconds.

So my questions are, is the formula correct, and what way does Ultima round it?

Thanks!

 

[Jeremy]

From the Weapons page of the Playguide:

Speed indicates base Swing Speed in seconds. To determine actual swing speed, use the following:
1. Take the speed in seconds, above and multiply it by 4 to get the speed in "ticks." If you are barehanded, you swing at 2.5 seconds, or 10 ticks. Example: The Halberd (4.25 second base speed) has a base speed of 17 ticks.
2. Figure out Stamina Ticks (Current Stamina / 30, rounded down.) Example: Current Stamina = 50. So Stamina Ticks = 1.
3. Figure out Swing Speed Increase item property modifier. Example: 20.

Apply those results to the following:
a. Hit Start = ((Base Weapon Speed - Stamina Ticks) * (100.0 / (100 + Swing Speed Increase)))
ex. Hit Start = ((17 - 1) * (100.0 / (100 + 20)))
c. Make sure minimum swing time is never less than 5 ticks (1.25 seconds).
ex. The calculated Halberd Hit Start speed = 13 ticks (3.25 seconds)

 

[Pickaxe Pete]

The correct formulas (if you can find them) should show you that you need 55+ ssi and well over 180 stamina, and chain divine fury in order to maintain 1.25 with an ornate.

Your formula is far too optimistic, I'm afraid.

Edit, I see Jeremy beat me to the punch. Great, there you go.

 

[mmmbeer]

The correct formulas (if you can find them) should show you that you need 55+ ssi and well over 180 stamina, and chain divine fury in order to maintain 1.25 with an ornate.

Your formula is far too optimistic, I'm afraid.

Edit, I see Jeremy beat me to the punch. Great, there you go.

oh great she comes in with an easy cut an paste answer and NO ANSWER FOR STRANGERS!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[athlon]

From the Weapons page of the Playguide:

Using that formula and my paramaters i came up with 1.8

Do i round down to 1.75, or up to 2?

Thank you for the formula by the way!

 

[Pickaxe Pete]

Round up, your stamina will drop when you take a hit.

 

[Pickaxe Pete]

oh great she comes in with an easy cut an paste answer and NO ANSWER FOR STRANGERS!!!!!!!!!!!

? The math and examples seem very straightforward to me.

Oh, you meant something about the current event, gotcha.

 

[athlon]

Round up, your stamina will drop when you take a hit.

Im thinking you round the 1.8 down to 1.75 and not up to 2.0 - but i dont know the exact code UO uses. That is the only question remaining.

Here is the formula in excel if anyone wants to play with the numbers/paramaters:

cell J3 = swing speed of wep
cell K3 = swing speed increase as whole number
cell L3 = Stamina
cell M3 = the formula below

=+(((J3*4) - ROUNDDOWN(L3/30,0)) * 100/(100+K3))/4

Just need to know how to round the result of the formula, and we are all set.

 

[Pickaxe Pete]

Im thinking you round the 1.8 down to 1.75 and not up to 2.0

Maybe, but there is no point to just meeting a minimum threshold, it must be comfortably and consistently exceeded in order to maintain the target speed.

 

[Hildebrand]

I find this is the best calculator. It's current and gives everything you need.
http://www.uohub.com/calcdmg.cfm

 

[T_Amon_from_work]

Using that formula and my paramaters i came up with 1.8

Do i round down to 1.75, or up to 2?

Thank you for the formula by the way!

Unless stated otherwise, truncate (round down) and numbers from formulas. In your case 1.75 is your answer.

 

[Jeremy]

T'Amon is correct - in every case I've seen in the code, the number is truncated.

 

[linko50]

maybe i am ********, but wtf is a "tick"?

 

[T_Amon_from_work]

Approximately .25 seconds. Look at the original quoted formula from Jeremy. It explains in the first step what ticks are and the derivation of them.

 

[Mythic]

Lets see if Im doing this right then. Use Bow as example 4.25 secounds or 17 ticks minus 5 at 150 stamina multiplied by 100/140(40 SSI) is 12x.71= 8.52 ticks (8?) so Im swingin at 2 secounds right? Now I must be doing something wrong becuzz the calculator provided says Im swinging at 2.25 secounds

 

[T_Amon_from_work]

Lets see if Im doing this right then. Use Bow as example 4.25 secounds or 17 ticks minus 5 at 150 stamina multiplied by 100/140(40 SSI) is 12x.71= 8.52 ticks (8?) so Im swingin at 2 secounds right? Now I must be doing something wrong becuzz the calculator provided says Im swinging at 2.25 secounds

Jeremys formulas (regular text) and your numbers (bold)
1. Take the speed in seconds and multiply it by 4 to get the speed in "ticks."
Speed Ticks = 4.25 * 4 = 17

2. Stamina Ticks as (Current Stamina / 30, rounded down.)
Stam Ticks = 150 / 30 = 5

3. Figure out Swing Speed Increase item property modifier. Example: 20.
40

Apply those results to the following:
a. Hit Start = ((Base Weapon Speed - Stamina Ticks) * (100.0 / (100 + Swing Speed Increase)))
Hit Start = ((17 - 5) * (100 / (100 + 40)))
Hit Start = (( 12 ) * ( .714 ))
Hit Start = 12 * .714 = 8.58 Ticks
Hit Start = int( 8.58) / 4 = 8/4 = 2

Yup ... I get 2 seconds as well. If the calculator you reference is the one in the post lower down, I get 2.25 s well.

I'm compiling formulae for posting in Players corner so I'll note this one and see if I find something different as I rummage thru stuff. Far as I know though, this one is gospel.

 

[Joyous2K]

MAth is cool. Awesome. Copernicus.

Dermott can you make a swing speed calculator icon in KR? Like how the weight is updated and hitpoints are updated... can something like that be created as a KR hotbar item?

 

[Mythic]

Thanks T'Amon, thats the way ive been figuring my swing speed since the information was provided.

 

[Hildebrand]

So 8.58 gets "truncated" to 8 in this calculation? That's quite a truncation and not a true rounding. This is so dang confusing. Now the damage calculator that I referenced is off?