We have a trammel moon, look through a spyglass. The moons have always been named Trammel and Felucca, part of why I've always hated them naming the facets after them when they mirrored the world, as they're two seperate things (basicly just lazy name-borrowing so they didn't have to come up with new ones). I hate that we basicly have call Britannia "fel" these days or nobody knows wtf you're talking about :/
The moons happen to have the same name as the facets. That doesn't mean that we are living on the moons, nor does it mean that a shard that lacks the facet Trammel also lacks the moon Trammel.
Malas (I have bolded the relevant part).
Source: Malas - UOGuide, the Ultima Online encyclopedia
Source: BNN: An Introduction to Ilshenar - Part I - UOGuide, the Ultima Online encyclopedia
SOURCE: Ilshenar - UOGuide, the Ultima Online encyclopedia
Ugh. Facets have been described as different things in different pieces of "official" fiction. This is a problem when there is no official lore keeper and/or those writing the lore are just lazy.
interesting, termur and the lost lands I knew as those had used existing lore from ultima, but the others? Where did you find that, those explanations don't fit with the origional ultima series explanations of those places (Serpent isle was reached by boat by simply sailing to it for instance) so it was at least somewhat changed from their origional incarnations. I tend to go off things from the single player utlima series when possible as most post-LB UO tends to read like poorly written fanfic of a Ultima/LOTR mashup so it helps to hear the locations that these places are "supposed" to be.
The Lost Lands are unique to UO, it's not Eodon from Savage Empire. Acording to Designer Dragon, the Lost Lands were meant to be a piece of the 5th continent, Ambrosia.
That's interesting, I never would have made that tie-in as T2A as is looks far more like Eodon combined with bits of Serpend Isle than Ambrosia, Ambrosia was pretty much a dead sunken island. Granted large parts of ilishnar look like Eodon as well O_x (i'd guess they used parts of it as a basis for both)
I dunno, I can't really see this one, there's no similariy in geography at all, none of the major cities are there, and there's no major ophidian settlements, serpent isle as we knew it was already post-cataclysm and was very much an "island" in the ocean with it's primary cities being port cities, even if it required sailing between the serpant pillars to reach. (kinda a pocket dimension i guess, i forget exactly how it worked, I was never all that big on the later ultima games) I think Ilish was likely just completely made up by the team at that time using some inspiration from many other locations (Monlor for instance has a lot of similarities to furnace, while central ilishinar looks a lot like areas from Eodon)
Yeah, if i had to guess though, from the walled cities, the abilities introduced, etc, Malas had to at least be partly inspired by Pagan
No, Ilshenar is Serpent Isle...just not as we saw it in Ultima VII, p2. The land is all squished together and somewhat rearranged. The biggest clue is Montor (Monitor in SI). Ilshenar is UO's take on SI - think of the Meer as the Ophidians (since their newest lore assumes this role) there just hasn't been an influx of anti-British settlers to build Fawn, Monitor, or Moonshade. Exodus has ties to SI as well, since that is where he snatched the Great Earth Serpent from to "guard" his castle in Ultima III.
Pagan is most likely a completely separate planet in the OSI-verse, though nobody with any authority has ever said so. It could be mainline Ultima's take on one of the lost continents, but I highly doubt we'll ever know. At any rate, Malas completely lacks any reference to the elements or the Zelan godforms. (outside EM fiction)
Unless Malas overlaps Tram/Fel regions...
No one who posts here can reasonably claim otherwise about themselves.Holy cow......you guys are major UO dorks
