[Price Check] Some Old Pets

[bradley-]

I'm not 100% sure on the value of these as I just recently came back in UO. I don't have an ICQ so a message here or in the UO Discord will be a good way to contact me.

Dragon:

Nightmare:

White Wyrm:

Fire Steed:

These pets are on Catskills.

 

[adam brook]

I'm 100% sure on the value of these as I just recently came back in UO. I don't have an ICQ so a message here or in the UO Discord will be a good way to contact me.

Dragon:

Nightmare:

White Wyrm:

Fire Steed:

These pets are on Catskills.

Honestly. They aren't worth I great fortune I don't think..

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[Longtooths]

I concur

 

[whitesmith]

@bradley-

They are worth more than a pretty penny on Atlantic. You can make some great pets from all 3, fire steeds haven't changed.. i think.

Pp nms went above 100m. Just make sure it didn't jump slots after the patch.

Dragon is priceless, once you are able to start training them back up.

Ww, pp, I'd train for myself

 

[Lex Darion]

Id offer
40m for NM.
50m for WW.
50m for dragon to start off with.

Edit: Also lol at second and third poster saying they arent worth much.. heh.

 

[whitesmith]

@bradley-
I'd like to make an offer on the mare, and the ww.
Could you please post or pm me the resists on these guys
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[adam brook]

Oh wow. Seems like I was far from correct then !

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[Articuno]

130m for the mare and thr white wryrm

 

[bradley-]

@bradley-
I'd like to make an offer on the mare, and the ww.
Could you please post or pm me the resists on these guys
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Nightmare, Dragon, White Wyrm, Fire Steed resists:

 

[Lex Darion]

Let me know if you're selling the dragon. @bradley-

 

[whitesmith]

Thanks for posting the resists...
Don't think I will make an offer at this time, need to save some moolah for something I am working on
But here is something for posting the resists










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[Lex Darion]

Resists are almost entirely useless to weight in the new system. Resists are cheap to train compared to hits / STR.
High HITS and STR is what to look for.

 

[Keith of Sonoma]

Resists are almost entirely useless to weight in the new system. Resists are cheap to train compared to hits / STR.
High HITS and STR is what to look for.

Actually, I am pretty sure that statement is incorrect. My understanding is that ALL 3 (HP, STR, AND resists) take 3 "training" points for every 1 increase. A 50 HP increase, a 50 strength increase, OR a 50% increase in a resist will all take the same 150 training points. Making high starting resists, just as important as starting strength and HP's, when looking for a good pet to tame.

 

[Jaela]

Actually, I am pretty sure that statement is incorrect. My understanding is that ALL 3 (HP, STR, AND resists) take 3 "training" points for every 1 increase. A 50 HP increase, a 50 strength increase, OR a 50% increase in a resist will all take the same 150 training points. Making high starting resists, just as important as starting strength and HP's, when looking for a good pet to tame.

If you look at all pets, theres usually only a spread of resists equalling about 60 "training" points in total.. where-as str/hp can be as much as 300points.. so REALISTICALLY all 3 matter BUT most importantly str/hp.. resists is meh.

 

[Khaelor]

Resists are almost entirely useless to weight in the new system. Resists are cheap to train compared to hits / STR.
High HITS and STR is what to look for.

Resists have the same value as a point of str or hits in animal training, x3.0. They are equally as important as I will explain:

On something like a prepatch dragon, I will take str out of the equation for my example as str is untrainable, but yes, when looking at a dragon, you want high str due to the fact it's untrainable. (For the record dragon str variance is 29 or 87 animal training points worth.

Dragon hits only have a natural variance of 17 points, or 51 training points.
Dragon resists have a variance of 10 points per resist or 150 training points.

Prepatch nightmares:
Str variance of 29, 87 training points.
Hits variance of 17, 51 training points.
Resist variance 50, 150 training points.

You want to weigh all the when looking at an animal. A cruddy resist roll on some animals can end up costing hundreds of training points.

And no I would not use a pet calculator for legacys, I would use their total imbue value (with str top priority on wyrms and dragons)

 

[Lex Darion]

Statistically the variance of a 3 star to a 5 star is too much in the pet calculator program.
As the spawn difference between a perfect and non-perfect is so small. It's usuallynot 100's of points from legacy pets from the pets Ive tasted and calculated.

A perfect prepatch NM caps out at 7990 points or so. But a "bad" prepatch can still be 7800 or heck even 7850. Making it a very feasable pet to train.

 

[Keith of Sonoma]

Statistically the variance of a 3 star to a 5 star is too much in the pet calculator program.
As the spawn difference between a perfect and non-perfect is so small. It's usuallynot 100's of points from legacy pets from the pets Ive tasted and calculated.

A perfect prepatch NM caps out at 7990 points or so. But a "bad" prepatch can still be 7800 or heck even 7850. Making it a very feasable pet to train.

It's all good. I never said it wasn't feasible, hehe. I merely pointed out that "training" resists is just as expensive as training strength or HP's.

 

[Khaelor]

As the spawn difference between a perfect and non-perfect is so small. It's usuallynot 100's of points from legacy pets from the pets Ive tasted and calculated.

A perfect prepatch NM caps out at 7990 points or so. But a "bad" prepatch can still be 7800 or heck even 7850. Making it a very feasable pet to train.

Your point was "resists are cheap to train up compared to hits or resists", and that was proven to be inaccurate.

But for the record,
I also am well aware of nightmares points, in fact, I was the first one on the forums to mention using pet imbue/intensity values, so I'm well aware of what nightmare points are and variances in their spawn. Of course all prepatch nightmares are viable to train, I've trained a couple dozen of them or so at the very least. But I also know I won't be putting necromage on a low or even mid ranged spawn.

It won't always "100s" of points for a legacy, but it can be a good 150, even 200 points.

Resists are just as important as str or hits, that fact stands.

 

[Lex Darion]

Your point was "resists are cheap to train up compared to hits or resists", and that was proven to be inaccurate.
.

Ill correct my quote. Fixing resists is usually cheap. I didnt mean the point individually.
People didnt usually save trash pets, and resists was often what people wanted to be as high as possible.

Either way, I usually blanket calculate 300 points for resists when I calculate quickly.
Some pets are obviously cheaper to train, and some more expensive. But that seem to be an average of how much to put into it to get 80 75 70 70 70 .

 

[bradley-]

Thank you everyone!