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some official response please.....strangers

Lucy of Kenton

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having wasted too much time yesterday on europa trying to find the stranger that never appeared can someone please tell us if they are not spawning to save even more time today.
its called .....Communication!
im one of the people that throws themselves into each new scenario and is regularly let down by ea, you should see how many cloaks of corruption i have! oh and btw the cloak is actually a robe
 
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Lord Drakelord

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well at server up on Sonoma I plan on looking again for it. I hope it spawns more then ONCE.
 

Esmeralda

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Well Europa already had it´s serverup since yesterday.. and still nothing!
Really, I´m feeling the same as Lucy.. totally let down :(
 

Demonous

Rares Fest Host | Ches Jul 2010
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they should make it so that if u say news to the town crier it tells you what dungeon to go to if one is up at that time
 
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Jin Image

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Same here i just happen to be one of the lucky ppl who have to work so i was working during server up! Once i got home i looked for the strangers but nothing. Spent a whole day looking and nothing and they wont even let us know whats going on :link:
 
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Mord Mhor

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Agreed. Can we please have an official response as to what is going on.

I also spent most of yesterday searching in vain. So I got up specially at server up to look today and didley.

Mord Mhor

(Europa)
 

MaryForUo

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cmon, relax, Jeremy is busy now
doing....
doing...

what she is doing? .....
 

Lord Kotan

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having wasted too much time yesterday on europa trying to find the stranger that never appeared can someone please tell us if they are not spawning to save even more time today.
its called .....Communication!
im one of the people that throws themselves into each new scenario and is regularly let down by ea, you should see how many cloaks of corruption i have! oh and btw the cloak is actually a robe
Are they basically all spawning in depise?
 

Snakeman

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Could we get some kind of "off the Cuff" reply from a Dev or Jeremy... Seriously, you wonder why peeps are leaving, this doesn't help their attitude towards the game at all. All you have to do is say either it is broken & Might be fixed in "X" time frame or it won't be fixed or the darn thing is working & we are just looking in the wrong place! Simple I think...
 
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Sweet Delta Eb

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Yes please throw us a bone. Has anyone emailed the big J..I cannot remeber the email address. Does anyone know it offhand?
 
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Emil IsTemp

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If you go on Google Earth, you can see area 51.

But remember its not there.. Even though you can see it with your own eyes. Theres nothing there. No base, nothing. Just the desert. Gmen will ignore you or also say nothing is there...

Sound framiliar?
 

Oriana

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It'll start about 10am PDT. Why because that's when i'll be leaving to take my kids outside to play. lol Everyone finally gets well enough to go out thats whn it'll start!!

J?K of course I haven't a clue, but that would be my luck lol

Ori
 

Flame (DrR)

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spent 2 days on edge repeatedly checking for the stranger, so frustrating, not that hes not there but because a simple so everyone as you know hes broken and we have no eta but it wont be today. I have really beeen enjoying the event again and have started makeing new friends doing it, but this lack of communication is the main topic of coversation and its over shadowing all the hard work that has been done.

its good to talk
 
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galefan2004

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EA doesn't understand how to communicate with their player base? If you want communication with the player base then go play WoW. Say what you want about Blizzard, but they have always been very good about keeping players informed about going ons.

The simple answer is this...

EA broke the original "strangers". They were so broken that they were dropping CCs when they shouldn't have been. In order to fix that they ended up turning off the spawn from the chests so that they only dropped the new gems and gold. I'm guessing that they are susposed to drop some sort of event item and all of the numbers for the event items got mixed up somehow.

After they turned the spawn off other than the gems, they had an issue getting it turned back on. In order to fix that they decided to take the "strangers" out completely until they could fix the chest to drop the appropriate items. With the way EA boggles things up most of the time, they are probably now having problems even getting the "strangers" to spawn at all.

So, until they actual bother to tell you that the "strangers" are back up, I wouldn't even bother scouting.

On the negative side, if they can't even handle UO or DAoC (its as messed up as UO is) how the hell do they actually expect to make a title that comes anywhere close to what Blizzard has. WAR should be a joke if EA follows its current patterns of communication with the players and buggy programing.

The reason Blizzard was so successful is because they understood that things like admitting there was an issue, fixing buggy content, and keeping players in communication lines were integeral to the gaming experience. Also, Blizzard has gone above and beyond this year by filing against both a gold selling company and a third party program distributor in federal court. Thats much more than EA has ever done for their games.
 

Beerman72

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EA doesn't understand how to communicate with their player base? If you want communication with the player base then go play WoW. Say what you want about Blizzard, but they have always been very good about keeping players informed about going ons.

The simple answer is this...

EA broke the original "strangers". They were so broken that they were dropping CCs when they shouldn't have been. In order to fix that they ended up turning off the spawn from the chests so that they only dropped the new gems and gold. I'm guessing that they are susposed to drop some sort of event item and all of the numbers for the event items got mixed up somehow.

After they turned the spawn off other than the gems, they had an issue getting it turned back on. In order to fix that they decided to take the "strangers" out completely until they could fix the chest to drop the appropriate items. With the way EA boggles things up most of the time, they are probably now having problems even getting the "strangers" to spawn at all.

So, until they actual bother to tell you that the "strangers" are back up, I wouldn't even bother scouting.

On the negative side, if they can't even handle UO or DAoC (its as messed up as UO is) how the hell do they actually expect to make a title that comes anywhere close to what Blizzard has. WAR should be a joke if EA follows its current patterns of communication with the players and buggy programing.

The reason Blizzard was so successful is because they understood that things like admitting there was an issue, fixing buggy content, and keeping players in communication lines were integeral to the gaming experience. Also, Blizzard has gone above and beyond this year by filing against both a gold selling company and a third party program distributor in federal court. Thats much more than EA has ever done for their games.

If you dont really know what is going on please dont present your own opinion or thoughts as fact. It only leads to more individuals getting the wrong impression. Truth of the matter is we dont have any information on why the *strangers* stopped spawning. We can only assume something is still buggy.

Thank you.
 
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Deb

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OK Jeremy Wake up and let the DEV Team loose...we know you holding then
hostage:)
Also, time frame on Pub 54 on TC?
 

Nyses

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Hey at least some of you have actually seen these strangers. I work full time and get to play UO in the evenings. The ONLY reason I even know these strangers exist, is because I read these boards. I have looked for 2 days and not seen one hint of a stranger.

Having them actually spawn in the evenings, when casual players might have a chance to run into them, would be novel.
 

calibek

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EA doesn't understand how to communicate with their player base? If you want communication with the player base then go play WoW. Say what you want about Blizzard, but they have always been very good about keeping players informed about going ons.

The simple answer is this...

EA broke the original "strangers". They were so broken that they were dropping CCs when they shouldn't have been. In order to fix that they ended up turning off the spawn from the chests so that they only dropped the new gems and gold. I'm guessing that they are susposed to drop some sort of event item and all of the numbers for the event items got mixed up somehow.

After they turned the spawn off other than the gems, they had an issue getting it turned back on. In order to fix that they decided to take the "strangers" out completely until they could fix the chest to drop the appropriate items. With the way EA boggles things up most of the time, they are probably now having problems even getting the "strangers" to spawn at all.

So, until they actual bother to tell you that the "strangers" are back up, I wouldn't even bother scouting.

On the negative side, if they can't even handle UO or DAoC (its as messed up as UO is) how the hell do they actually expect to make a title that comes anywhere close to what Blizzard has. WAR should be a joke if EA follows its current patterns of communication with the players and buggy programing.

The reason Blizzard was so successful is because they understood that things like admitting there was an issue, fixing buggy content, and keeping players in communication lines were integeral to the gaming experience. Also, Blizzard has gone above and beyond this year by filing against both a gold selling company and a third party program distributor in federal court. Thats much more than EA has ever done for their games.
Sorry, Bizzard good at communication? That's a good one!!!:lol:
 

Lynk

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Lets run the same thread over and over, complaining about the rate at which the event is progressing. Lets all get together and collectively whine, with no productive value to any post. Lets hypothesize about why things are the way they are, with no actual proof for any claim.

Even more, lets threaten to close our accounts if a DEV doesn't bow to your every whim.

OR....

STFU and play the game. There are tons of other things to do.
 
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galefan2004

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If you dont really know what is going on please dont present your own opinion or thoughts as fact. It only leads to more individuals getting the wrong impression. Truth of the matter is we dont have any information on why the *strangers* stopped spawning. We can only assume something is still buggy.

Thank you.
I didn't play this game for 8 years without understanding what normally goes on with EA. I just summed up the event arc so far and came to logical conclusions.
 
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galefan2004

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Sorry, Bizzard good at communication? That's a good one!!!:lol:
Everytime they have ever had a bug that the players notice a blue has an answer for them on the forums about 30 minutes after they post about it. I would call that good at communication.
 

calibek

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Everytime they have ever had a bug that the players notice a blue has an answer for them on the forums about 30 minutes after they post about it. I would call that good at communication.
Apparently you were not present for the great shaman dot shock of 2007. You know, the one where the lead designer thought there were 8 classes in the game, or the one where shamans were getting stealth nerfs to their abilities and when they would ask about it would get no answers what-so-ever, which is actually what caused the dot shock. When almost every post in general was "*" then, AND ONLY THEN, did any blue say anything to the shamans about what happened. Shamans have been promised buff for a long time and have got nothing. When they were told they were getting buffs they were happy then was never told that they were bing taken away and didn't find out until patch notes. This also has happened with other classes. So yeah their communication is top notch huh?
 
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Emil IsTemp

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Everyone is just going to have to come to terms with the strangers found what theyre looking for. They have since moved on. Theyll make an appearance at a later date, when they continue the search.

Or..

The loot was messed up horri-blay. I dont think the rare gems were even supposed to spawn.. and the box was empty on the first day. After the fix for the box, the rare gems were still there, but wayyy less that the first day.. and all sorts of items were dropping, like CC's an stuf..

Just be happy there wasnt a time-warp.. havent had one of those in a long time..
 

Beerman72

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I didn't play this game for 8 years without understanding what normally goes on with EA. I just summed up the event arc so far and came to logical conclusions.
A logical conclusion should not be interpreted by others as *known fact*.

Thanks.
 
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Deb

Guest
No problem accepting moving on, but where is the information telling
us this....I remember someone saying we would be "Impressed with this
Event":stir:
So far "Hmmmmm"
 
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Emil IsTemp

Guest
No problem accepting moving on, but where is the information telling
us this....I remember someone saying we would be "Impressed with this
Event":stir:
So far "Hmmmmm"
Were still riding up the plot-coaster.. Retribution (SA Beta) is still on the server list.. i want info on that :)
 
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galefan2004

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Apparently you were not present for the great shaman dot shock of 2007.
Actually I was playing a shaman at the time everyone complained about how underpowered they were. I was doing just fine keeping people alive in raids back then.

You know, the one where the lead designer thought there were 8 classes in the game, or the one where shamans were getting stealth nerfs to their abilities and when they would ask about it would get no answers what-so-ever, which is actually what caused the dot shock.
They only people that ever thought shamans were underpowered was shamans. Those are EXAMPLES of places where Blizzard made mistakes. They have had a very good recent track record. EA has 10 years of nothing but trashy consumer relations.

When almost every post in general was "*" then, AND ONLY THEN, did any blue say anything to the shamans about what happened. Shamans have been promised buff for a long time and have got nothing.
What are you talking about? They are one of the most powerful healers in the game. They are the one of the best meleers in the game. They are one of the best casters in the game. They routinely top the healing and dps (casting and melee) charts. They are HANDS DOWN the most powerful support class in the game. Have you played the game at all since TBC came out...shamans are the only class that guilds will drag on raids while they are still in greens and honestly try to get one in every group because they buff the rest of the raid so much. Shamans have always been about buffing, and in WoW they are now the most powerful buff class...I would think that would mean they are just powerful toons now.

When they were told they were getting buffs they were happy then was never told that they were bing taken away and didn't find out until patch notes. This also has happened with other classes. So yeah their communication is top notch huh?
They have tried to keep the game balanced patch by patch for the entirity of the game. That is a lot more than EA has ever done. No class has ever been nerfed out of existance. The only ones whining about nerfs were the people that could not adapt. Back when shamans sucked I was routinely killing everyone 1 v 1 in PvP with a restor (HEALING) shaman. Now, if they sucked so badly explain how I could do that.

Now they are the most powerful buff class in the game and everyone is making them as FoTM. They are hands down one of the most powerful PvE characters in WoW, and restor and elemental shamans still do quite well in PvP. So, if you think its a broken class you honestly haven't played WoW since TBC.

I'm not saying they haven't bungled some communications. However, I haven't seen them do half as bad as EA when it comes to communications about game breaking bugs, and I have yet to see them leave game breaking bugs in the game without even trying to fix them like EA has.
 
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galefan2004

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A logical conclusion should not be interpreted by others as *known fact*.

Thanks.
Read it any way you want to. I don't control how you read what I write. There is no way to indicate tone. If you interpreted it as known fact then that is your issue. I simply gave a logical conclusion based on evidence that was available and EAs track record. If I didn't site a source then its probably more than likely its not known fact.
 
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galefan2004

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No problem accepting moving on, but where is the information telling
us this....I remember someone saying we would be "Impressed with this
Event":stir:
So far "Hmmmmm"
OPINNION:

They have been claiming we would be impressed with everything that came out in this game for the last 10 years. I remember them saying we would be impressed with AoS. People were so impressed the game went from 250k players to 150k players in about 6 months.
 

calibek

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Actually I was playing a shaman at the time everyone complained about how underpowered they were. I was doing just fine keeping people alive in raids back then.
Raids we were fine. PvP was the problem. I've had a shaman since November 2004 and he was the first one I got to 70 when TBC came out. Also the restoration tree was never the problem, the other 2 trees were the problem.


They only people that ever thought shamans were underpowered was shamans. Those are EXAMPLES of places where Blizzard made mistakes. They have had a very good recent track record. EA has 10 years of nothing but trashy consumer relations.
No just recently, I'd say back in February or January we were getting support from other classes when patch 2.4 came out which was the last big patch to come out. Other classes took a look at some of the nerfs coming to shamans, such as Nature's Swiftness and Elemental Mastery not being able to be used together and supported us. I also find it funny that before the patch notes came out a player, who was supposedly on the Lead Designer's arena team, was able to name the nerfs that shamans were getting then lo and behold the same nerfs come out. And this was just back about 4 months ago so no their recent track record sucks too. I'm not saying EA is good with theirs but Blizzard isn't as great as you think.


What are you talking about? They are one of the most powerful healers in the game. They are the one of the best meleers in the game. They are one of the best casters in the game. They routinely top the healing and dps (casting and melee) charts. They are HANDS DOWN the most powerful support class in the game. Have you played the game at all since TBC came out...shamans are the only class that guilds will drag on raids while they are still in greens and honestly try to get one in every group because they buff the rest of the raid so much. Shamans have always been about buffing, and in WoW they are now the most powerful buff class...I would think that would mean they are just powerful toons now.
I will not argue with your healer comment and yes they are very good meleers, when they can get close enough to someone to melee (talking about PvP) but their casting is quite bad, i should know I was an elemental shaman. Lighting Overload was useless after TBC came out and when they made LO useful they knocked down the damage output of our Lightning bolts and chain lightning to compensate for the buff they gave to LO. When they did that they almost guarenteed that LO had to be taken if you wanted to be an elemental shaman. Best part is the nerf wasn't even told to us, people on test check the co-efficients and confronted blue's on the test forum, which ignored the shaman community for the better part of 3 weeks, no we looking into this or nothing. When a player actually showed proof with equations and everything we still didn't get a comment from blue until 2 weeks later at which point they said we were wrong only to come back 2 weeks later and say we were right. Great communication.

They have tried to keep the game balanced patch by patch for the entirity of the game. That is a lot more than EA has ever done. No class has ever been nerfed out of existance. The only ones whining about nerfs were the people that could not adapt. Back when shamans sucked I was routinely killing everyone 1 v 1 in PvP with a restor (HEALING) shaman. Now, if they sucked so badly explain how I could do that.
No they just make one class extremley powerful then knock it down a few pegs and make it week while another class becomes powerful, Warlocks, Warriors, and Druids are great examples. I adapted quite well to the changes. As far as you killing people 1v1 as resto that is simple. Resto has the ability to outlast people, Earthshield is a wonderful tool and we have great mana regen, especially with mana tide totem. Water shield is good too to get mana back. All you have to is make someone waste their mana then kill when they have nothing left, mages and priests for example. Warrior's, Druids, and rogues are the toughest for a shaman so I find it HIGHLY doubtful you were able to beat either of those 3 classes routinely. Besides WoW is an item game. If you're a shaman in Season 4 facing someone in season 1 gear then chances are very good you're going to win, which is one of the few ways shamans managed to compensate for their weaknesses.

Now they are the most powerful buff class in the game and everyone is making them as FoTM. They are hands down one of the most powerful PvE characters in WoW, and restor and elemental shamans still do quite well in PvP. So, if you think its a broken class you honestly haven't played WoW since TBC.
Played WoW since the beginning and still am playing WoW. They are very powerful in PvE now but the game is shifted more towards PvP now and they are quite weak there, except resto. Elemental isn't too bad, just need the gear to compete for our lack of tools such as a stun, root, or other neat little tricks other classes got. Also as of 3 months ago Shamans were the lowest population class in the whole game with, I believe about 8% of the population while some classes had much higher percentages.

I'm not saying they haven't bungled some communications. However, I haven't seen them do half as bad as EA when it comes to communications about game breaking bugs, and I have yet to see them leave game breaking bugs in the game without even trying to fix them like EA has.
There was the bug where you would fall off the zepplin into deep water and drown which was in for about 6 months before it was fixed, there was high latency times and constant server restarts, multiple warlock bugs which were almost in for a whole year before being fixed, Totem twisting which while not illegal has yet to be fixed like it said it was going to be, and a mulititude of other things. What you think isn't half as bad as EA is your opinion. In my opinions Blizzard is on par.

Oh and as a little piece of info, lead designer for PvP at BLizzard for WoW, Tom Chilton, AKA Kalgan, was the lead designer of Age of Shadows and jumped ship i believe not too long after AoS release. One of the people who is with WoW and you consider to have great customer service was part of the company you consider to have the worst communication.
 

Lucy of Kenton

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wait! is that a reply from devs i hear?
*sounds of wind blowing* *watches tumbleweed blow down the road*
 
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AustinRules

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Since six of these guys are going to arrive in different places maybe they only appear when they arrive....or maybe once a day. This sure isn't a continual spawn.
 
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