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So Treasure Hunting was good for 5 minutes...... now

MissEcho

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Now it is back to being in the long list of content NOT WORTH DOING ANYMORE.

Sad to say that for 5 minutes T-hunting was actually pimped so that it was worth doing. We got our forged pardons, and then with the loot changes the really good odds of getting a legendary bit of loot in amongst the 70+ items in an ingenious or diabolic chest.

Now we still have the forged pardon, but they aren't worth diddly squat once they introduced the way OP royal pardon in vvv. You can sit your red hidden in a vvv town and acrue points til you have enough to get the reward and clear off your massive kill count in seconds. So much for penalty for being a red. But it totally screwed the one item actually worth anything in a tchest. Well done devs for a totally disgusting OUT for the murderers amoung us.

Then having done a few chests after the loot change and actually getting a few nice pieces of random legendary loot, not every chest but quite a few, and not always great legendaries but at least the odd one that was really nice, now , the last 30 ingenious tmaps I have done and 5 diabolics absolutely NOTHING worth taking accept the odd bit for unravelling, not a single legendary or for that matter anything worth bothering with, mainly cursed and other crap crap crap.

ALAS, no idea why they give us stuff that actually makes content worth doing only to nerf it completely and make it a wasted excercise again. I don't wanna wade through 75-85 pieces of crap which it has become again. The other 'things' (essences, refinements etc) you are much better off doing exodus dungeon with a thief or killing mobs in SA.

I guess my T-Hunter is going to go back to retirement again now until they do something to make it worth bothering with again. What really SUCKS is I love Tmap hunting, but there has to be a point to it.

Turn the loot back ON so at least there is a chance of something decent.
 

Merus

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You know it's funny, if you look in the professional forums you will see the devs swearing up and down how they didn't change it...

But to anyone who did lots and lots of maps it is SO obvious. Like we can't tell the difference. I get that the change probably wasn't on purpose, but it's very frustrating when they stick their head in the sand and say wasn't us... rather than actually try and figure out what happened even though they can't explain it right off the bat.
 

Uriah Heep

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I have to second this. The main prize now sells for less than 100k on some shards, since it is being replaced by the vvv pardon. DevilsOwn and I do a lot of maps, its one of the things we enjoy most ingame, but there is no way loot equals what it did.
 

MeTheGreat

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i'm much more casual with my t-hunting, but i still get a legendary on every other ingenious map (it's probably closer to 4 out of every 5).

i run a luck suit when i'm doing them and the rng does not usually like me.

but i do still get a chance at the most powerful items in the game for about ten minutes of effort.

there aren't many other things in the game that give you that kind of an opportunity..
 

Giles

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'I don't wanna wade through 75-85 pieces of crap" Miss Echo said.


I have done a lot of maps and for sorting the t-maps I switch over to the EC client. I search for legen, brittle, swing, and prize. So much faster. It is only thing i use EC client for. Soon as I am done searching I switch back to CC.

As for quality of loot, idk, seems like it was maybe better at first, but i still get quite a few legendary. Definitely not as bad as what people have said on treasure hunting forum
 

Old Vet Back Again

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Now we still have the forged pardon, but they aren't worth diddly squat once they introduced the way OP royal pardon in vvv. You can sit your red hidden in a vvv town and acrue points til you have enough to get the reward and clear off your massive kill count in seconds. So much for penalty for being a red. But it totally screwed the one item actually worth anything in a tchest. Well done devs for a totally disgusting OUT for the murderers amoung us.
You cannot gain points being hidden in town.

You have to grind 100 alters to get 1 forged pardon. It was a good nerf to VvV that was intially a system released that catered to templates that do not engage in combat. They also sell for around 20m last time I checked. So, with it being a decent reward for thief's I suggest you adapt and farm them for a decent profit.
 

HoneythornGump

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Right now your essentially throwing your maps away doing chests.

I've complained numerous time in the Treasure Hunting.:frown2:

1) The Devs are either :lie: and they nerfed the bleep out it.
2) The algorithm that determines the base loot fluctuates on some timer. Random roll each day or something and we've had bad rolls going on for some time now.
3) Something got jacked up that's affected the base loot levels.

I do a ton of Maps. Not to brag, but I'm extremely efficient, and with the volume of high level Maps (only 6s &7s) it's clear there was a change, a drastic change...going on 3-4 weeks ago.

The fact that Miss Echo is echoing exactly what I've been saying on the treasure Hunters forum speaks volumes that there has been a change/reduction in the loot intensities.

You'd have to be blind not to notice it.
 

Riyana

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Treasure maps are still good for player event spawns if you can get a few in the area you want... :/

I agree the loot is pretty disappointing.
 

Vermin

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Simple solution with the new expansion - make mastery books a treasure chest item. Lower level ones a rare chance in low level chests, level 3 books in level 6 and 7's.
 

MissEcho

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You cannot gain points being hidden in town.

You have to grind 100 alters to get 1 forged pardon. It was a good nerf to VvV that was intially a system released that catered to templates that do not engage in combat. They also sell for around 20m last time I checked. So, with it being a decent reward for thief's I suggest you adapt and farm them for a decent profit.
Yes you can, my thief does it all the time, sometimes just stays hidden if a lot of pk's are around she still gets 1-200 points and as many as 400 sometimes. Trust me YOU CAN.

I have a thief on my home shard and one on atlantic and regularly get the 10000 point rewards.
 
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MissEcho

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'I don't wanna wade through 75-85 pieces of crap" Miss Echo said.


I have done a lot of maps and for sorting the t-maps I switch over to the EC client. I search for legen, brittle, swing, and prize. So much faster. It is only thing i use EC client for. Soon as I am done searching I switch back to CC.

As for quality of loot, idk, seems like it was maybe better at first, but i still get quite a few legendary. Definitely not as bad as what people have said on treasure hunting forum
I only play the EC have done since 2009. AS I said, the last 30 odd ingenious and 5 diabolic ones I did (and it could even be more) not a single legendary. I do ten maps at a time solo and lately got zip I only do ingenious and diabolic maps, although occassionally toss in a devious if it is in the area I am doing. After the loot changed (to global loot) I would regularly get 1-2 sometimes even 3 out of one chest it was RARE that I didn't get one, now nil. She also has over 2k luck on her suit but frankly I am not a believer in luck as I seriously doubt it makes much difference.

I am probably gonna do another 10 or 20 maps and if nothing improves will give it away until such time as they 'fix' the loot again. If I want junk to unravel I will do covetous lvl 3, at least there there is a chance of an arti drop while farming for relics. The so called 'artifacts' you get in the tchests are not worth keeping at all. God I wish they would FIX the so called artifacts and mini artifacts in this game to make em worth having or even wanting.
 

MissEcho

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You can get refinemnts with a thief in exodus dungeon?
Naa mistype, meant to say essences in exodus and refinements stealing in towns, but both are better than doing tchests for those items with a theif.
 

Scribbles

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The devs often change something and have no clue of the consequences. Ive seen it way to many times. Change one thing here and little do they know it changes 5 other things unrelated. They are probably being honest when they say they didnt change anything specifically... but who knows what they did change to screw up tmaps...

Collusion.
 
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