So, after reading on the Sampire.....

[Mac]

I gotta try one! As a old returning player, I have a swords woman laying around, so this will be my new Sampire. I know I have changes that need to be done. Presently she is as follows...

Swords..107.7/110 ( need 120)
Parry.. 100.0/100.0 ( need 120)
Bush..89.5/110.0 ( need 120)
Necro..40/100.0 ( need 100)
Chiv..80/100.0 (will drop to 60)
Anat..108/110 (will go to 110, but according to posts, can drop to 100)
Tactics..102.6/110 ( I guess this can be dropped down to 100...correct?)

So, that's what I gather from the posts I have read. Any suggestions?

My first real question while building and changing these around is.... What is the fastest method to build Necro? We all have certain methods for building skills...ex: using dull copper armor, wep w/zero skill locked, bunch of aids, and head to the sheep pen in Yew to gain Parry. Anyone got a system for skill gain in Necro? I can find the "use this spell at this level", but nothing saying "this is the fastest method".

I could use the same for Bushido, as the gains have slowed way down at this point.

Your assist is appreciated,

Mac

 

[Mirt]

You will actually want to keep your chiv at 80 with 85 being ideal as that is the new 60. As for gaining necro the best way is to buy up to 40 and then use the New Haven quest to go to 50. From there it is pretty much casting grind but as soon as you can going into liche form will help gain back your mana.

 

[kleos]

lich form is great for any casting grind, so do necro first.

 

[Thunderz]

Also grab yourself some shame loot with crazy mana properties on it. Thats what iv been using lately [cursed brittle or not] and some skills iv been able to hold down my macro for over 30 mins constant casting untill i had to stop for 1 min to regen back to 224 mana ;D

Thunderz

 

[Picus at the office]

Some people disagree but I'd replace 110 anat with 110 or higher resist. My samp does a fair amount of champ spawns and I found that this was a much greater addition to my temp then the damage from anat.

Just my two cents.

 

[CorwinXX]

I replaced Anatomy with Resisting Spells on my Thrower.

 

[Mirt]

Some people disagree but I'd replace 110 anat with 110 or higher resist. My samp does a fair amount of champ spawns and I found that this was a much greater addition to my temp then the damage from anat.

Just my two cents.

Its best to have this a soul stone swap in swap out option if you ask me, of course that is trying to have both.

 

[J.B.]

Some people disagree but I'd replace 110 anat with 110 or higher resist. My samp does a fair amount of champ spawns and I found that this was a much greater addition to my temp then the damage from anat.

Just my two cents.

DIDO

 

[Lynk]

Some people disagree but I'd replace 110 anat with 110 or higher resist. My samp does a fair amount of champ spawns and I found that this was a much greater addition to my temp then the damage from anat.

Just my two cents.

DIDO

IF %CHAMP = HARROWER || %champ = NEIRA
{
set %agree yes
}
if %champ <> HARROWER || %CHAMP <> NEIRA
{
SET %agree no
}

 

[Picus of Napa]

Ya if you have it on a stone and you are willing(read as don't forget) to change it then I would agree with Lynk, otherwise default is resist.

 

[CorwinXX]

if %champ <> HARROWER || %CHAMP <> NEIRA

this is always true
because champ can't be HARROWER and NEIRA on the same time


p.s. I think you mean
if %champ <> HARROWER && %CHAMP <> NEIRA

 

[Cyric_SP]

this is always true
because champ can't be HARROWER and NEIRA on the same time


p.s. I think you mean
if %champ <> HARROWER && %CHAMP <> NEIRA

No, Lynk is correct.

|| means OR
&& means AND

By putting in && you are telling that line that the champ has to be both Harrower AND Neira which is impossible since you'll never see them on the same screen at the same time.

So in english (for those that have no clue)

if champ is not HARROWER OR champ is not NEIRA
(if %champ <> HARROWER || %champ <> NEIRA)

/derail

 

[CorwinXX]

So in english (for those that have no clue)

if champ is not HARROWER OR champ is not NEIRA
(if %champ <> HARROWER || %champ <> NEIRA)

/derail

As I said this is always true.

Condition1 = %champ <> HARROWER
Condition2 = %champ <> NEIRA
Atleast one of those conditions is true.

true OR true = true
true OR false = true

So
Condition1 OR Condition2 === true
(always true)

 

[NuSair]

Welcome to programming 101.

 

[Zero Day]

set %agree no
IF %CHAMP = HARROWER || %champ = NEIRA
{
set %agree yes
}


--> Woot code reduction 102.

 

[Cyric_SP]

set %agree no
IF %CHAMP = HARROWER || %champ = NEIRA
{
set %agree yes
}


--> Woot code reduction 102.

Zero Day FTW

 

[Lynk]

Haha.. yeah my code always has unnecessary lines. by the time i go through and fully troubleshoot I get rid of most of it...

 

[Luke Carjacker]

No comment on the code discussion, but I'd throw in the two Abyss champ spawns (Abyssal Infernal & Primeval Lich) as spawns where resist beats out anatomy. It's not the champs themselves; in both cases the champs are pretty easy to kill if you know what you're doing. But there are creatures in the level 4 spawns (Abyssal Horror & Dream Wraith) that cast spells that can be very nasty if you don't have resist.

When I solo the Abyssal Infernal without resist, I end up dying 2-3 times because of the curses that the Abyssal Horrors throw out. It really sucks when you get blood oathed and end up killing yourself because you share in the damage you smack them with. It's not unusual to see 9-10 curses piled up on your buff bar at the same time, and while resist doesn't eliminate these, it reduces their effectiveness. My template allows 95 resist (or anatomy) and that's enough. I'm able to solo nearly every spawn easily without dying much (it can still happen if you get unlucky). Not Bedlam & Glade though.