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Well the title say it all. Thank you.
? I'll have to try that ... I always thought tamers who used bird slayer tallies were straight newb, guess if this tally fact is true I iz da noob but seems odd to attach a tally and have followers do extra dam.if you do summons like evs or elementals yes they do help. just like they help tamers.
I doubt it unless someone screwed up the code to affect followers.do talismen really help tamers?????
Yes, it works for pets and summons. Nonetheless, the situation is still arguably unfair to mages. Mages unfairly receive only the cons (apart from summoning), while dexxers fairly receive both the pros and the cons.
Ok lol. So dexxers can use a tali and a weapon while mages cant get the benefit from the tali and are forced to use just the book (weapon). Makes sense.To deal with that in-equality for mages they have the conjurers spellbook. That's where mages get their undead slayer bonus. And it's a half way decent book to boot. So it was balanced as intended...just because you don't want to play that way doesn't mean it's not balanced.
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Did you forget this is mages online? Mages are by far the most powerful and most versatile out of all of the character types in the game.Yes, it works for pets and summons. Nonetheless, the situation is still arguably unfair to mages. Mages unfairly receive only the cons (apart from summoning), while dexxers fairly receive both the pros and the cons.
Not at the cavern they arent. Basically here's how all this works. You have to match different chars for different situations. There's lots of times mages are the best. Woohoo! However, nothing compares with a sammy pal or sammy bush at some places. Even the tamers leave the cavern, (since i have ALL the chars you can believe I'd be playing something different if it was better).Did you forget this is mages online? Mages are by far the most powerful and most versatile out of all of the character types in the game.
I can't wait to try this. Theres no way in the world it takes my dragon 4.5 mins to kill a swoop, but who knows this might actually work. tyvm for the informationI just conducted some tests. Took Greater Dragon to swoops.
Here are the results....
Wearing Bird Slayer - averages 2.5 minutes to kill swoop
Without Slayer - Average 4.5 mins to kill swoop (One took over 5 minutes to kill swoop)
Without Slayer but with +20 DI on Talisman - 2.75 Minutes to kill swoop
Conclusions I draw from this test. Slayer Talisman does work for pets. I would assume works for summons as well. In absence of a Slayer talisman, I am going to start wearing Primer Tallisman on tamer, because the DI still helped.
Feel free to test yourself.
That's not the point. We pvpers want the conjurer's trinket for the 10% HCI, HPR 2 and DI 20%, and couldn't care less about the slayer property. But now as long as you equip the talisman, even if you're a mage who doesn't get to use the slayer property, you will still suffer from double damage from repond monsters.To deal with that in-equality for mages they have the conjurers spellbook. That's where mages get their undead slayer bonus. And it's a half way decent book to boot. So it was balanced as intended...just because you don't want to play that way doesn't mean it's not balanced.
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If you are a pvper join factions and wear the faction tally, woA!~!!!~!~!!~!!! problem solved, but there is stat loss, but then again a real pvper doesnt care about stat loss.That's not the point. We pvpers want the conjurer's trinket for the 10% HCI, HPR 2 and DI 20%, and couldn't care less about the slayer property. But now as long as you equip the talisman, even if you're a mage who doesn't get to use the slayer property, you will still suffer from double damage from repond monsters.
It isn't balanced in this sense. But as with everything else unbalanced in UO, we all have to accept it and work with it. No prob.
Did you forget this is mages online? Mages are by far the most powerful and most versatile out of all of the character types in the game.
I named my dragon BEAST. He is a beast. He does serious damage, and has great resists. His combat skills are 117.4 for the wrestling, 122 for tactics, and he has 111.3 resist and it still going on. 120 Magery. GM on the rest. His HP is 960 i think. Yes, I can easily see the difference between slayer tallisman and not.I can't wait to try this. Theres no way in the world it takes my dragon 4.5 mins to kill a swoop, but who knows this might actually work. tyvm for the information
Hahahahahahaa greatest UO joke of the year.Did you forget this is mages online? Mages are by far the most powerful and most versatile out of all of the character types in the game.
Good Lord you're not kidding!Could this thread contain any more incorrect information?
DCI penalty for wearing the undead slayer against opposing monsters has to the be the worst of it![]()
1. Talisman does NOT do jack for pet nor summons damage. NO NOT EVEN just a little bit... it's zero, not 3% not 2% not 1%. It's NOTHING.I seriously doubt that wearing a tali in any way effects your pets damage output.
So how come my taming tali (Library Talisman-Birds Of Britannia Random Summoner) Has the stats Taming +5 Animal Lore +5 and is a Bird slayer?I seriously doubt that wearing a tali in any way effects your pets damage output.
NO NO NO...So how come my taming tali (Library Talisman-Birds Of Britannia Random Summoner) Has the stats Taming +5 Animal Lore +5 and is a Bird slayer?
If these slayer were not meant to be used by Tamers why make one that is for a tamer? I would suggest if one slayer works for the tamer (Bird Slayer) they all would work for the tamer.
Following this logic on to its conclusion, a mage would get the same benefits from a tali if they are casting EV's, Demons, Elementals etc as they are classed as pet
Hi DracoSo how come my taming tali (Library Talisman-Birds Of Britannia Random Summoner) Has the stats Taming +5 Animal Lore +5 and is a Bird slayer?
If these slayer were not meant to be used by Tamers why make one that is for a tamer? I would suggest if one slayer works for the tamer (Bird Slayer) they all would work for the tamer.
Following this logic on to its conclusion, a mage would get the same benefits from a tali if they are casting EV's, Demons, Elementals etc as they are classed as pet
Hi Draco
I mean, the only person who's actually tested this and thinks that pets do more damage with slayer is jkfeach who also thinks that di on the primer increases pet damage............so I think we can take any tests he does with a pinch of salt![]()
If you're getting hit by repond monsters then your in hand-to-hand range and attempting to wrestle. You SHOULD be taking the damage...it's a melee skill wether you're good at it or not.But now as long as you equip the talisman, even if you're a mage who doesn't get to use the slayer property, you will still suffer from double damage from repond monsters.
Fair point. Maybe the devs could add a chance to get a spellbook with special mods (like invasion books had) with a rare chance for a book with a ML slayer. Not sure which heartwood quests would fit this but I would love to see the addition for us mages.It might make more sense for them to be be given out in the ML Quests..just like the talismans do...The slayer property is not that common...so it could be a rare drop.
If we can't craft talismans.....why be able to craft books?
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