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is the market for these dead already? is it because of the relentless 24/7 afk fan dancer bot farmers running on all shards without consequence? I had the poison one up for months and only one offer for 300m I turned down. I was thinking this lot was worth a plat at least, am I wrong?
These are awesome! What runic kit you used for these?
Welllll since you asked I can't resist sharing the video.... you use an ash runic saw, powerful+vicious of slaughter. you need to roll a very precise 2 mods on lightning and a third mod on elemental damage randomly. If it isn't 70HL/70Elemental, it's unravelled or trashed. As you can see below, you might need to get yourself over 1,000 ash runics to make a winner!
No not dead. Lol. But just for future reference don’t make them with your name on them. People don’t like them with a markers mark. So since you have a markers mark then there are selected few people that will buy them.
Well we'll just have to see what the good people of Britannia think if I still have them all after I've made a fire and a chaos one to complete the set... the Renowned LeMarc of Legends is marking his boks. When the set is complete he's charging double and some collector is going to be happy to have all five from the set. In another 10,000 runics you'll all be paying a premium to fight with one of LeMarc's Bokutos, a true status symbol, hahaha...
No in seriousness, I appreciate that the PVP crowd doesn't want the maker mark but doesn't that make any of you feel sad/bad? I remember when the RP element of this game was magic. It's not like my char's name is something stupid. Is there no fun left in it for any of you PVP'rs that you really won't fight with a weapon made and marked by another player? Well as a proud Britannian, I'm going to be marking my crafted goods... and the day I stop doing it will be the day I stop playing.
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Very nice and nice video! I will try to make one, as a challenge, and then I will need a vendor in ATL, however, which I cannot, so I will need to bum a vendor spot from someone in ATL. Wish me luck on both these efforts.
While it's "easy" to make our own the frustrating randomness that is UO crafting makes buying more attractive
Thanks for the info offered so nicely and generously. I made my first Ash runic dovetail saw, was not too cheap, the quest was for 20 exceptional Frostwood shields, cost a lill bit in bribes, got it to 800 points and got one saw..woopie!
Do you use shields also to get there? I will have to check the cheapest method to get 750 points. Little research. Ty again.
Do you use shields also to get there? I will have to check the cheapest method to get 750 points. Little research. Ty again.
You got it friend! Here are some other trade secrets... I actually don't use my carpenter to get my bods, I use some other characters with 0.1 in carpentry. The bods will be foot stools, barrel lids, and barrel staves. They take very little wood but will all need to be bribed up. Each day get 9 of those bods which is about as many as you can bribe up with all the carpenter npcs in the game. That'll get you 9 hammers to use every day or roughly 75 bokuto chances. Keep plugging away and that's about 2250 chances a month. I've gotten four keepers in about 2-3 months. The fourth is a 70 fireball / 70 chaos which I consider a keeper but probably won't sell for much, if at all.Thanks for the info offered so nicely and generously. I made my first Ash runic dovetail saw, was not too cheap, the quest was for 20 exceptional Frostwood shields, cost a lill bit in bribes, got it to 800 points and got one saw..woopie!
Do you use shields also to get there? I will have to check the cheapest method to get 750 points. Little research. Ty again.
You mean saws right? ty again.
Craig_Jones
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good job my friend. Fair prices on Atl:
poison - 700m
cold - 500m
poison - 700m
cold - 500m
ok just for curiosity I attempted to do some rough approximations of the chance of getting a 70 lightning / 70 poison bokuto by using an ash runic kit, 4 charges, powerful + vicious / of slaughter
Of course only the devs know how the RNG applies modifications via the runic reforging system but I figure this might be the best case scenario that assumes available mods are weighted equally, a.k.a the best odds to make a 70 lightning / 70 poison bokuto are 1 in 16,848 chance.
Each bokuto reforge costs 4 charges for a total of 67,392 charges potentially required, which equals roughly 1,925 ash runic saws.
At a rate of $1,380,000 per runic saw on Atlantic VS this morning, that equals a cost of $2,657,170,285 or in Ultima terms, 2.6p ..... plus a whole $h!tload worth of lumber and tools....
If picking one name in reforge only guarantees 1 mod from the chosen category and not two, then the chances of making a 70 lightning / 70 poison bokuto actually might be closer to 1 in 134,784.... I very much doubt this is the case because it doesn't align with the reality of the market, the videos, and personal experience...
Maths!! Fun stuff!!
**** Disclaimer: None of us know how the calculations actually apply with reforging, if there are different weightings/measurements/scenarios/possibilities,etc. so please take this as just a bit of fun with RNG calculations ****
- I count 76 properties in total which could be reforged onto a bokuto
- Ash Runic is either 2 or 3 mods rolled with a max possible intensity of 75% which means you must get 3 mods in your reforge because you'll need to double up on hit lightning in order to overcap it at 70
- The first mod must be Hit Lightning (1 in 13 chance from the category)
- The second mod must also be Hit Lightning but for this roll, because you already applied hit lightning and can't get a second different hit spell (1 in 9 chance from the category)
- In the event that picking one name during reforge only guarantees 1 mod from the category, that means your odds change from 1 in 9 to 1 in 72 for the second roll
- The third mod must be a random elemental damage roll from the whole pool of possible mods, minus the other hit spells because you've already applied hit lightning (1 in 72 chance)
- If half the time your reforge is only for 2 mods instead of 3 then multiply the odds by 2... I don't have any idea what the chances are of 2 mod vs. 3 mod on an ash runic reforge so just assuming 50/50 every time.
Of course only the devs know how the RNG applies modifications via the runic reforging system but I figure this might be the best case scenario that assumes available mods are weighted equally, a.k.a the best odds to make a 70 lightning / 70 poison bokuto are 1 in 16,848 chance.
Each bokuto reforge costs 4 charges for a total of 67,392 charges potentially required, which equals roughly 1,925 ash runic saws.
At a rate of $1,380,000 per runic saw on Atlantic VS this morning, that equals a cost of $2,657,170,285 or in Ultima terms, 2.6p
..... plus a whole $h!tload worth of lumber and tools....If picking one name in reforge only guarantees 1 mod from the chosen category and not two, then the chances of making a 70 lightning / 70 poison bokuto actually might be closer to 1 in 134,784.... I very much doubt this is the case because it doesn't align with the reality of the market, the videos, and personal experience...
Maths!! Fun stuff!!
**** Disclaimer: None of us know how the calculations actually apply with reforging, if there are different weightings/measurements/scenarios/possibilities,etc. so please take this as just a bit of fun with RNG calculations ****
| Hit Point Increase | Total Properties in Vicious / of Slaughter Category (1st roll) | 13 |
| Strength Bonus | Total Properties in Vicious / of Slaughter Category (2nd roll, assuming first roll was Hit Lightning since you can't roll two different hit spells) | 9 |
| Hit Point Regeneration | Total Properties (3rd roll, minus a second different hit spell) | 72 |
| Mana Increase | Rolling 3 mods instead of 2 mods on the reforge | 2 |
| Intelligence Bonus | (1 in 13) x (1 in 9) x (1 in 72) x (2) | 16848 |
| Lower Mana Cost | ||
| Mana Regeneration | ||
| Stamina Increase | ||
| Dexterity Bonus | ||
| Stamina Regeneration | ||
| Swing Speed Increase | ||
| Faster casting | ||
| Spell Channeling | ||
| Mage Weapon | ||
| Self Repair | ||
| Elemental Damage Chaos | ||
| Elemental Damage Fire | ||
| Elemental Damage Cold | ||
| Elemental Damage Poison | ||
| Elemental Damage Energy | ||
| Durability | ||
| Lower Requirements | ||
| Slayer - Arachnid | ||
| Slayer - Demon | ||
| Slayer - Dragon | ||
| Slayer - Elemental | ||
| Slayer - Fey | ||
| Slayer - Reptile | ||
| Slayer - Repond | ||
| Slayer - Undead | ||
| Slayer - Water Elemental | ||
| Slayer - Troll | ||
| Slayer - Terathan | ||
| Slayer - Spider | ||
| Slayer - Snow Elemental | ||
| Slayer - Snake | ||
| Slayer - Scorpion | ||
| Slayer - Poison Elemental | ||
| Slayer - Orc | ||
| Slayer - Ophidian | ||
| Slayer - Ogre | ||
| Slayer - Lizardman | ||
| Slayer - Gargoyle | ||
| Slayer - Fire Elemental | ||
| Slayer - Earth Elemental | ||
| Slayer - Dragon | ||
| Slayer - Blood Elemental | ||
| Slayer - Air Elemental | ||
| Hit Life Leech | ||
| Hit Mana Leech | ||
| Hit Stamina Leech | ||
| Hit Mana Drain | ||
| Hit Fatigue | ||
| Physical Resist | ||
| Fire Resist | ||
| Cold Resist | ||
| Poison Resist | ||
| Energy Resist | ||
| Luck | ||
| Enhance Potions | ||
| Hit Dispel | ||
| Hit Magic Arrow | ||
| Hit Harm | ||
| Hit Fireball | ||
| Hit Lightning | ||
| Hit Physical Area | ||
| Hit Fire Area | ||
| Hit Cold Area | ||
| Hit Poison Area | ||
| Hit Energy Area | ||
| Hit Chance Increase | ||
| Damage Increase | ||
| Battle Lust | ||
| Hit Lower Attack | ||
| Defense Chance Increase | ||
| Hit Lower Defense |
I don’t think your math is correct
You’re counting each property as individual role chance, EG all the slayers
but actually instead I think the way it works is
You have chance of slayer (and then that slayer is random) same with all the subcategories.
Or else slayer would be the most common role, which it isn’t, it’s quite rare to get slayer.
So you need to group the categories
(basically there’s no chance of you rolling hit fire area and hit cold area etc, or 2 slayers)
You’re counting each property as individual role chance, EG all the slayers
but actually instead I think the way it works is
You have chance of slayer (and then that slayer is random) same with all the subcategories.
Or else slayer would be the most common role, which it isn’t, it’s quite rare to get slayer.
So you need to group the categories
(basically there’s no chance of you rolling hit fire area and hit cold area etc, or 2 slayers)
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Ooh I think that makes it even worse odds... Not because of slayers but because then both elemental and hit spell would be grouped like that... Which means it's not a 1/13 for roll one, it's 1/5 and 1/5 again for the right spell for a 1 in 25 chance? Roll 2 would then need 1 in 5 (spell would have to be lightning)? And Roll 3 would be 1/35 with all the groups to hit elemental times 1/5 to hit poison damage for a 1 in 175 chance to get elemental and poison damage?
Multiply those 3 up and it's a 1 in 21,875 chance LOL
If that's how it works and I got the groups correct of course
Multiply those 3 up and it's a 1 in 21,875 chance LOL
If that's how it works and I got the groups correct of course
Your probability is way off
When you're choosing vicious you have a high chance of over capped mod.
I think instead count a sample of how many items have mods in vicious/of slaughter that are overcapped.
Then you can calc the odds of hit lightning 70, it's really not that rare.
Then a final roll for the other mods (in groups), but there is a tendancy to lean towards the final mod also being in vicious/of slaughter so there's a lot of estimates.
I can't say if the names should be grouped or just the types that you can't have 2 of. Probably the names though.
(You're saying chance for hit lightning 70 is 1/5 and then 1/5 again, but it can't be because you can't roll hit lightning and then hit harm...)
When you're choosing vicious you have a high chance of over capped mod.
I think instead count a sample of how many items have mods in vicious/of slaughter that are overcapped.
Then you can calc the odds of hit lightning 70, it's really not that rare.
Then a final roll for the other mods (in groups), but there is a tendancy to lean towards the final mod also being in vicious/of slaughter so there's a lot of estimates.
I can't say if the names should be grouped or just the types that you can't have 2 of. Probably the names though.
(You're saying chance for hit lightning 70 is 1/5 and then 1/5 again, but it can't be because you can't roll hit lightning and then hit harm...)
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1 in 5 to roll hit spell out of the five possiblities (hit area, hit spell, di, hci, battle lust) plus then an additional 1 in 5 that the hit spell is lightning (out of the 5 spells, dispel, arrow, harm, fireball, lightning) - is what I was suggesting based on the grouping idea... equalling a 1 in 25 chance you roll lightning with the first. For the second it's just 1 in 5 to roll hit spell out of the five possibilities because if you roll hit spell with a second roll it can't be a different spell than lightning.
I'm not going to keep a log but that means a 1 in 125 chance to get 70% hit lightning and I really don't think that's far off.... My daily bokuto crafting makes 70 of them and I think I'll usually find 0, 1, or sometimes 2 70% lightnings.... but you've got me wondering so I will pay attention to that probability because if it turns out to be close to 1 in 125 then it validates the grouping thesis at least.
Then for a third roll if it's 1 in 35 to roll elemental damage as a group times a 1 in 5 that the damage is poison that would be a 1 in 175 chance to roll the 70% poison damage
1 in 125 x 1 in 175 = 1 in 21,875
And that's not even with the fact that you might not get 3 rolls... the uoguide says it's 2 or 3 potentially for ash runics...
Can you get 70% hit lightning with 1 roll... or do you need to essentially roll it twice to overcap it? I thought the max intensity of 75% with an ash was based off the normal imbuing max of 50% hit lightning, meaning you'd need to roll it twice at max intensity for an ash to get it to 70%.... I'm really just being antagonistic at this point though with these semi-hypothetical questions I'm sure we'll never know the answer to hahaha
I'm not going to keep a log but that means a 1 in 125 chance to get 70% hit lightning and I really don't think that's far off.... My daily bokuto crafting makes 70 of them and I think I'll usually find 0, 1, or sometimes 2 70% lightnings.... but you've got me wondering so I will pay attention to that probability because if it turns out to be close to 1 in 125 then it validates the grouping thesis at least.
Then for a third roll if it's 1 in 35 to roll elemental damage as a group times a 1 in 5 that the damage is poison that would be a 1 in 175 chance to roll the 70% poison damage
1 in 125 x 1 in 175 = 1 in 21,875
And that's not even with the fact that you might not get 3 rolls... the uoguide says it's 2 or 3 potentially for ash runics...
Can you get 70% hit lightning with 1 roll... or do you need to essentially roll it twice to overcap it? I thought the max intensity of 75% with an ash was based off the normal imbuing max of 50% hit lightning, meaning you'd need to roll it twice at max intensity for an ash to get it to 70%.... I'm really just being antagonistic at this point though with these semi-hypothetical questions I'm sure we'll never know the answer to hahaha
Basically a bag of reforged boks would tell use more than we speculate with probability
the only 2 pieces of info we need are:
The number of items with overcapped mods in vicious category
number of items that also had a roll in a non vicious category group
As an experienced reforger myself too, my gut is telling me you need less than 400 ash runics
the only 2 pieces of info we need are:
The number of items with overcapped mods in vicious category
number of items that also had a roll in a non vicious category group
As an experienced reforger myself too, my gut is telling me you need less than 400 ash runics
Did he give a final count in the video?
He said he started with 1000
But I didn’t see how many he had left.
He said he started with 1000
But I didn’t see how many he had left.