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RtB houses - Open Letter to the Devs PART II - New Housing System!

Housing system issues:

  • Yes. Devs should delete the RtB houses and implement more housing slots.

    Votes: 24 36.4%
  • Devs should just delete the RtB houses and we'll be ok.

    Votes: 23 34.8%
  • I want more housing slots but don't care about the RtB houses.

    Votes: 7 10.6%
  • Do not mess with the housing system, it's perfect the way it is.

    Votes: 12 18.2%

  • Total voters
    66
  • Poll closed .
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lupushor

Guest
Poll: Please vote only after reading both Open Letters regarding housing. Thank you!


Dear Devs,

While you are still composing the answer to my first open letter, let me unveil the second part of my master plan regarding the housing system.
I will try to keep it as short as possible:

- Please assume that fixing the RtB houses will make a little more room on all shards.

- You implement a new housing system with more housing slots per account and you charge a FEE for it.

- We all win. We get what we've been dreaming for a long time, you get funding for future endeavors.


Study Case:

- You add up to 4 more housing slots per account - all of them initially inactive.
- You charge 2$ per month for each slot to become and stay active.
- Any player can freely choose how many slots he wants on his account at any given time.
- Player could choose to keep just the default free slot and not pay for others.
- If a player chooses to open 2 more slots he will pay a fee of 13+2+2=17$ per month.
- If a player stops paying for the account, the extra slots will go idoc after 30 days, while the master slot will go idoc after 90 days.
- If a player chooses to close a slot, as soon as the paid month is over the house on that slot (if any) starts to decay without the possibility of refreshing.

This is a case study. Please do not challenge the figures. I assume they would be set after intense study.
Could be only 1 more extra slot or 2 of them. Could be 1$ fee per slot or 2.5$.
A rule could be enforced about one slot per shard.
Other rules may be needed, as I'm sure I overlooked a lot of details.


Kind regards,
Wolfy of Trinsic.
 

yars

Lore Keeper
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
UNLEASHED
Opening up Malas to keeps and castles would quell some of us,I know Atlantic has some issues but the smaller shards don't have as big of an issue
 

Llewen

Grand Inquisitor
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
Campaign Supporter
The question is, would this result in a net gain for EA, or a loss? Many open up multiple accounts for the housing alone. This would be allowing an extra house for a much smaller fee, and would probably result in the closing of many accounts. However, that might be offset by those would pay extra for an extra house. I know I probably would take an extra house on each of my accounts, but I won't pay for two extra full accounts to do the same thing, so there would be a gain from people like me.
 

Zayin666

Lore Keeper
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
I think they should delete all the RTB houses asap.

I also think that the opportunity to pay up to 5 bucks extra for a house slot would be a good idea... but definitely not necessary :) Just delete the house alright? :)
 

HD2300

Certifiable
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
People who have RTB homes are going to say dont drop them. If I had one I would too.

If the EA wants more money, drop all the RTB homes, and then people who need and are getting free storage now, will have to pay extra for more accounts or extra storage tokens.
 
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Woodsman

Guest
The question is, would this result in a net gain for EA, or a loss?
If people had to actually pay for RtB houses like the rest of us pay, through monthly subscriptions or through some new system (second house on an account), it would be a net gain. Those people aren't paying EA for the use of those houses now, it's not a loss if they don't convert those RtB houses to being paid for.
 

RaDian FlGith

Babbling Loonie
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
The question is, would this result in a net gain for EA, or a loss? Many open up multiple accounts for the housing alone. This would be allowing an extra house for a much smaller fee, and would probably result in the closing of many accounts. However, that might be offset by those would pay extra for an extra house. I know I probably would take an extra house on each of my accounts, but I won't pay for two extra full accounts to do the same thing, so there would be a gain from people like me.
Truthfully, I doubt that you'd see accounts close due to extra housing. First and foremost, those who want extra housing ALWAYS want extra housing -- this would just double the amount of houses they could have.

And while I'm in favor of a second house per account at a charged fee, I think too that to prevent the potential of closing accounts, the second house has a maximum footprint (say 12x12 or 14x14) so that it would be additional housing space, not "another house" per se.

I'm all for being charged for a second house with a maximum footprint under one condition: It's on the same shard I play. I truly have no interest in other shards, and it would be lost potential revenue for EA if they didn't open it to same shard placement (which I suspect is not my singular feeling, but representative of some portion of the playerbase).
 

iamSnippa

Journeyman
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
Truthfully, I doubt that you'd see accounts close due to extra housing. First and foremost, those who want extra housing ALWAYS want extra housing -- this would just double the amount of houses they could have.

And while I'm in favor of a second house per account at a charged fee, I think too that to prevent the potential of closing accounts, the second house has a maximum footprint (say 12x12 or 14x14) so that it would be additional housing space, not "another house" per se.

I'm all for being charged for a second house with a maximum footprint under one condition: It's on the same shard I play. I truly have no interest in other shards, and it would be lost potential revenue for EA if they didn't open it to same shard placement (which I suspect is not my singular feeling, but representative of some portion of the playerbase).
How about a condition that the extra house must be a classic style house smaller than a large tower rather than a custom plot.
 

Theo_GL

Grand Poobah
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
UNLEASHED
Opening up Malas to keeps and castles would quell some of us,I know Atlantic has some issues but the smaller shards don't have as big of an issue
How about just making 18x18 storage the same as a castle? That is the only reason I want a castle or keep - is for storage. They are horrible to live in and take up too much space.

18x18 = castle storage? No need for castles.
 

RaDian FlGith

Babbling Loonie
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
How about a condition that the extra house must be a classic style house smaller than a large tower rather than a custom plot.
I suppose I'd be okay with that, though I'm unsure why we'd need to distinguish between custom and non-custom.

Though, on the other hand, I'd also like to see a few new non-custom styles put into the game too.
 

Rupert Avery

Sage
Stratics Veteran
Poll: Please vote only after reading both Open Letters regarding housing. Thank you!


Dear Devs,

While you are still composing the answer to my first open letter, let me unveil the second part of my master plan regarding the housing system.
I will try to keep it as short as possible:

- Please assume that fixing the RtB houses will make a little more room on all shards.

- You implement a new housing system with more housing slots per account and you charge a FEE for it.

- We all win. We get what we've been dreaming for a long time, you get funding for future endeavors.


Study Case:

- You add up to 4 more housing slots per account - all of them initially inactive.
- You charge 2$ per month for each slot to become and stay active.
- Any player can freely choose how many slots he wants on his account at any given time.
- Player could choose to keep just the default free slot and not pay for others.
- If a player chooses to open 2 more slots he will pay a fee of 13+2+2=17$ per month.
- If a player stops paying for the account, the extra slots will go idoc after 30 days, while the master slot will go idoc after 90 days.
- If a player chooses to close a slot, as soon as the paid month is over the house on that slot (if any) starts to decay without the possibility of refreshing.

This is a case study. Please do not challenge the figures. I assume they would be set after intense study.
Could be only 1 more extra slot or 2 of them. Could be 1$ fee per slot or 2.5$.
A rule could be enforced about one slot per shard.
Other rules may be needed, as I'm sure I overlooked a lot of details.


Kind regards,
Wolfy of Trinsic.
I like this idea to be honest, it solves a few problems..

My only concern is that people who have 5 accounts at 15$ per month may close them as an option to only pay an extra 8$ so EA would loose 60$ and only gain 8$. (I know you just came up with a figure )

That being said the general principle of the idea I like! good work
 

RaDian FlGith

Babbling Loonie
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
Did you just give them another idea for a booster pack?
As long as that's not the only thing in the booster pack, I'd be fine with that. Though, I guess I'd be okay even with a selection of new pre-built houses that came in *gasp* deed form that could be bought for $1.99 on the store.

Ah, if only I was in charge over there. hehe
 
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lupushor

Guest
The question is, would this result in a net gain for EA, or a loss? Many open up multiple accounts for the housing alone. This would be allowing an extra house for a much smaller fee, and would probably result in the closing of many accounts. However, that might be offset by those would pay extra for an extra house. I know I probably would take an extra house on each of my accounts, but I won't pay for two extra full accounts to do the same thing, so there would be a gain from people like me.
While I do know people that have 10 accounts paid for to keep their houses and items, I do believe most of the 'secondary' housing is kept by the 1/4 method. One pays 1 months then stops payment, then waits 3 months till house starts decaying, then pays for 1 month again. Simple math shows Ea receive less than 4$ per month for these 'secondary houses'.
This thought led me to one of the rules : - If a player stops paying for the account, the extra slots will go idoc after 30 days, while the master slot will go idoc after 90 days.
 

Pinco

UOEC Modder
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
I agree with radian, the secondary houses must have a limited size... maybe 15x15 top?

IMHO every account should have 1 house in prod shard and 1 on siege shard, then you could upgrade the prod shard house number (keeping the limit of 1 house per shard obviously).
 

Fridgster

Crazed Zealot
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
UNLEASHED
I'll be honest, I think I prefer the 18x18's over the castles and keeps. The only reason I hold on to my keep is storage. Increase the storage on 18X18's and I'd dump my keep in a heartbeat.
 
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