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Request for instanced looting while in party

Flutter

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Perhaps something we can toggle on and off?
It would be helpful for having a bard along to play buffing songs or a mystic along to "area heal" ;)
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Omnius

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I'm not sure I understand.

you want it to create more loot because you brought more people?

Why is it negative that your party members can all see the same loot?

If you don't want to share, shouldn't you just go solo?
 

Flutter

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I'm not sure I understand.

you want it to create more loot because you brought more people?

Why is it negative that your party members can all see the same loot?

If you don't want to share, shouldn't you just go solo?
I don't want to create more loot.
I'm just asking that the loot be able to be instanced while in party as it were had we not been in party.
 

iamSnippa

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signed.
Since I came back, this is one of the things I've been wanting the most.
 

Omnius

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I had 2 other questions...

Why is it negative that your party members can all see the same loot?

If you don't want to share, shouldn't you just go solo?
 

Merus

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signed!

Would love the corpse instance to divide the loot randomly for the party if toggled.
 

Flutter

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I had 2 other questions...

Why is it negative that your party members can all see the same loot?

If you don't want to share, shouldn't you just go solo?
It's negative that party members can all see the same loot because we want to share loot fairly. Instanced corpses is the easiest and best way to do that.
We do share. That's the whole point. Instanced looting is a fair way for everyone to get their share of the loot.
I don't understand what you're getting at unless you are just trying to troll me. Instance looting makes it easier to share because everyone gets their own corpse to loot. It's the same thing as not being in a party.
 

Dermott of LS

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It would work well for parties. But be thankful we don't have that whole Roll for Loot Need/Greed BS other games tend to have (WoW, etc).
 

Subliminator

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Signed. When hunting with other people, I'm only partied with them if they're a newb and I want them to have all the loot. If just hunting normally with guildmates we go unpartied.
 

Flutter

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Signed. When hunting with other people, I'm only partied with them if they're a newb and I want them to have all the loot. If just hunting normally with guildmates we go unpartied.
Aye me too. I just like to play my bard and there are buffs that only work when you're partied.
I think it'd be a great addition and don't see any down side. (Other than the coding for it might be tricky :mf_prop:)
 

Subliminator

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Coding should be virtually nil since instanced corpses is the norm for any random non-partied people hitting the same mob. A party leader toggle would be nice, but if required they can just get rid of shared corpses entirely for all I care. I'll throw the loot on the ground myself when hunting with newbs.
 

Luvmylace

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I had 2 other questions...

Why is it negative that your party members can all see the same loot?

If you don't want to share, shouldn't you just go solo?
Because you should ,as in solo play, get what you are entitled to .I think it is very obvious the intention and I smell a Troll here
 

Zosimus

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Signed and agrees 110%

*side note*

I posted this post after dropping party :p
 

temu

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Agreed. The whole breaking party thing in the middle of a boss fight is ridiculous. And it would be nice for the party benefit area effects and songs to be useful.
 

KingHen

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If this was in play I would use my bard in parties... For now he sings a solo everytime...
 

phantus

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Didn't some other game do this? If so you know what that means...


In all seriousness this is a good idea. So is giving loot rights to healers but I digress...
 

Flutter

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Didn't some other game do this? If so you know what that means...


In all seriousness this is a good idea. So is giving loot rights to healers but I digress...
Maybe give an instanced corpse to everyone in the party regardless of damage?
 

phantus

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Didn't some other game do this? If so you know what that means...


In all seriousness this is a good idea. So is giving loot rights to healers but I digress...
Maybe give an instanced corpse to everyone in the party regardless of damage?
Even better; A toggle for the party leader to choose loot options like this. Oh wait...that won't work...simpsons did it!....er wow did it, therefore we cannot implement into UO. Too cookie cutter. Don't want a turd like that in our sandbox...
 

RaDian FlGith

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It would work well for parties. But be thankful we don't have that whole Roll for Loot Need/Greed BS other games tend to have (WoW, etc).
I'm uncertain why the "Roll for Loot Need/Greed" system is "BS." Consider that in an MMO, you're encouraged to group up to do some of the content. Further consider that you might not always know everyone in your group. The "Need/Greed" system at least presents a legitimate system of keeping people honest and fair about who gets what.

Now, such a system would only work in a limited way in UO, however, on things like high end materials needed for crafting, such a system should probably be in place.

At very least, though, UO needs a round-robin style of looting, and for that matter, could even benefit from a need/greed system for things like Medusa drops and the like.

Such a system should obviously be selectable from a party menu. If you know and trust everyone in your party, no big deal. But that's not always the case. And I know I've been in parties with people I DO know who have gone around and looted everything like mad, and you don't have any clue what was looted because you never saw it.

It's not a "forced" system... don't turn it on if you don't like to use it, but certainly it should be a system available for the whole fairness factor.

*shrugs*

But then... I guess it is only BS.
 

Zosimus

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Hmmmm still not done yet.

Crack that whip a little more Flutter they may get it done b4 2015 if you rush them :p
 

Dermott of LS

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I'm uncertain why the "Roll for Loot Need/Greed" system is "BS." Consider that in an MMO, you're encouraged to group up to do some of the content. Further consider that you might not always know everyone in your group. The "Need/Greed" system at least presents a legitimate system of keeping people honest and fair about who gets what.
Because the definition of "need" and "greed" can differ between players (and this doesn't even go into the player-made external systems for dividing up loot). Also anything that introduces a human decision also introduces bias. Divided up, instanced corpses removes this bias completely from the players and puts it in completely impartial hands (the game) automatically without extra steps of Need/Greed or rolling or whatever. And if a player doesn't want a certain item, the corpse goes public in a couple minutes anyway. If players simply grab everything, they can trade around at the end of the run.

Basically, I'm just more of a fan of an impartial automatic system.
 
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