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Rares Fest Rares Jubilee 3 - Burning Orc Silent Auction Information Mega Thread - Now With Results!

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Hello and welcome to the Silent Auction at
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Rares Jubilee 3 - Burning Orc

To ensure success as either a seller or buyer
please read this entire post thoroughly!


LOCATION

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The Silent Auction houses are on either side of the vendor houses.
1 = Silent Auction House 1
2 = Silent Auction House 2


TIMELINE

June 3rd @ 6pm EST – Silent Auction Item Submissions Open
June 7th @ 6pm EST– Silent Auction Item Submissions End
June 7th @ 8pm EST– Silent Auctions Go Public For Buy It Now Options
June 9th @ 8pm EST– Silent Auction 1 Ends
June 9th @ 10pm EST – Silent Auction 2 Ends



INSTRUCTIONS FOR BIDDERS

  • 10 minute rule in effect for both houses
  • 1 million gold increment minimum for bids under 1 plat
  • **NEW** 10 million gold increment minimum for bids equal to or over 1 plat
  • Staff judgment
  • All bidders must be verified
  • Bid early and bid often!
What is the 10 minute rule?
I'm glad you asked! There will be a 10 minute cool down period starting with the last bid placed on items during the last 10 minutes, this means the cool down period begins 10 minutes prior to auction ending. Players can choose to continue bidding past the end of auction on any item, but only items that received bids during the last 10 minute period, and continue to receive bids within 10 minute period will be counted. Bidding will continue until no more bids have been received for a full 10 minutes. Anyone can bid during this cool down period, even players who have not previously bid on the item.

Minimum bids?
In order to prevent long, drawn out bidding wars the minimum bid for bids under 1 plat is 1 million gold and for bids equal to or greater than 1 plat the minimum bid is 10 million. Furthermore, to keep the staff sane, please keep bids to bids to even, whole integer values. This means no fractions, no decimals, or 100k increments. Bids that are not integer million values may be voided.

Staff Judgment
If there are any disputes with active bidding please contact a staff member as soon as possible. If an item has finished bidding and there are disputes regarding bidding the staff will make a final decision on the outcome.

How to get Verified
If the staff does not recognize your bid, we will attempt to contact you for a background check to verify you are a legitimate bidder and not a troll bidder. If we decide you are trolling, we will ban you from the auction houses through the bulletin boards. If you are not trolling, you will need someone we know to vouch for you.

How to Receive Winnings
Gold will only be accepted on Atlantic. Buyers must pay for winnings within 3 days.

Bid Early and Bid Often
Due to discrepancies with in-game and real time it is highly suggested that you do not wait until the last second to place your bid.


INSTRUCTIONS FOR SELLERS

All submissions must be made to @Olcher in game OR placed in the mailboxes on the steps of the Silent Auction houses. To arrange a meet up, please ICQ 1598439 for the fastest service. I can be identified by the Rares Jubilee 2018 lantern:
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Rules for item submissions:
  • All submissions must be submitted by the deadline. No exceptions. Please see the timeline above.
  • Items that are currently obtainable or better off placed on vendors will not be accepted.
    • Multiple items may be included in one 'lot' for bidding. This can include several vendor value items that combine to make a lot of items worth more than a vendor price (175m).
    • We might make our own minor exceptions at our own discretion.
  • In the event we are given two or more of the same items the one with lower buyout and/or reserve will be displayed for auction first.
  • In the event that there are more submissions than lots available in the auction houses, sellers with fewer submissions may receive priority.
  • Once the houses have opened to the public item submissions will be bound to the sales terms outlined in the corresponding book and are at the will of the auction process.
All items must be in a container with a book similar to below for EACH item:
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The book MUST contain any of the following applicable forms of identification:​
  • Your prominent in-game name
  • Stratics Name
  • UO Forums Name
  • ICQ Number
The book MUST also contain:​
  • The name of the item.
  • Optional reserve. If no reserve is set the highest bid will win.
  • Optional buyout. A fair and tempting buyout is recommended.
  • Optional title, see below.
Please triple check this information is correct before any books are submitted.

**NEW** The books will not be open to the public and only title of the book will be visible to buyers. You may use this space to display any pertinent information of the item. I recommend at least having the season, server and quantity, for example: S14 Atlantic 1/30 but you may also include your name, ICQ, or anything else you think will help or attract potential bidders.
Protip: using the Enhanced Client allows for longer book titles.

How to get Paid/Receive Unsold Items

Sellers will be paid as time permits after payment has been received for the item(s). If multiple items have been sold please expect a longer wait to get paid. Please have patience with the staff. There is no fee for selling items at the Rares Jubilee silent auction houses.

QUESTIONS?

ICQ Olcher @ 1598439​
 
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RESULTS

But first... some fun facts! Yay.
  • Every item submitted was accepted.
  • One item was newbified and was not able to be locked down to display.
  • Exactly 95% of items were paid for within 24 hours of the end of the auction.
  • Every item was paid for within 48 hours of the end of the auction.
  • All unsold submissions were returned and buyers were paid within 72 hours of the end of the auction.
  • 99 items in house #1 and 97 items in house #2
  • 41.8% of items sold
  • Just shy of 32b passed through the auctioneer's (@Olcher 's) hands.
  • This was the first Silent Auction I ran by myself.
Big thank you to everyone that participated in the Silent Auctions!

HOUSE 1

FLOOR 1

The Roasting Pig King 300
Wooden Chest Made By Storm Steelarm [Exceptional] No Sale
Pumpkin Spider Statue No Sale
May The Light Keep Us, May Fate Smule upon Us, May We Always Be Within Sight Of A Friend No Sale
Element of Air, Element of Fire, Element of Earth, Element of Water 1500
A Large Piece Of Phantom Quartz No Sale
Heart of the Inferno 175
Heart of the Ocean 300
A Large Piece of Prehnite No Sale
A Voltex Core Recovered From The Blackrock Detection Machine No Sale
Ashes of the Mystical Bennu Bird Matriarch: They Pulse With Life Still! No Sale
A Porcelain Jar Enclosed With The Tempestuous Aura Of The Legendary Stratos – Titan of Air, An Alluvium Vessel Encompassing The Residue Of The Legendary Lithos - Titan Of Earth, Antique Crucible Containing The Scorched Remnants Of The Legendary Pyros – Titan of Flame, Ancient Pottery Jug Containing The Water Crystals Of The Legendary Hydros – Titan of Water 400
A Large Vial Filled With The Life Essence Of The Fairy Princess, A Large Vial Filled With The Life Essence Of The Dragon God, A Large Vial Filled With The Life Essence Of The Elemental King, A Large Vial Filled With The Life Essence Of The Demon Prince, A Large Vial Filled With The Life Essence Of the Spider Queen No Sale
Haunted House Broken Window 1400
Red Packet No Sale
In With Good Fortune! Out With Demons! No Sale
Beward The Ides Of March No Sale
Phoenix Armor Suit 900
Cactus With The Frost No Sale
Knight Of The Luna Guard No Sale
Gold Medalist 2nd All – Britannia Olympics No Sale
Newly Invented Weather Predicting Machine 350
The Athyr, The Coore Of Love From Baja 80
Meteorite From The Minoc Inventor's Exhibition 155

FLOOR 2
Acolyte Of Relvinian 330
Ricardo's Resplendent Roof 225
War Drum of Air 805
Blood Drenched War Drum 250
Happy Holidays 2014 No Sale
Holiday Giftbox No Sale
Ricardo's Fancy Shoes 250
Survival Boots No Sale
War Drum of Earth 805
Archeological Notes No Sale
Phoenix Armor Suit No Sale
Royal Britannian Architecht 250
Herald For The Royal Guard 250
Disciple of Relvinian 420
Beneath Britannia No Sale
Hungry Ghost Festival Robe – Formosa 2009 200
Acolyte of Ocrmfg Ocig 230
Royal Guard Shock Troop Sergeant 250
Legends Of Old Britannia No Sale
Jar of Grandma's Best Chocolate Chip Cookies Legends 2009 81
A Large Piece Of Fire Ruby 305
A Sapling Of The Life Tree Retrieved From The Center of Sosaria 200
Dryad Sandals No Sale
Small Black Pearl Gifted From A Sea Serpent 175
Architecture And Engineering Of The Ancients No Sale
Face Of Deception No Sale

FLOOR 3
Daemon Breastplate No Sale
Hydrangea Flower No Sale
Eden, The Sleepy Hellhound Puppy 225
Lake Superior Britannian Games 2010 No Sale
Last Ice of Winter 250
An Enchanted Flask Filled With Vampire Blood No Sale
Mysterious Energy Power Rift No Sale
8x 2017 Rare Hue Angel Boxes 1000
Happy Halloween 2011 No Sale
A Holiday Tree Mantled With The First Snow Of The Winter Solstice 250
Sour Grapes No Sale
Rescued Trilkhun Kitten From The Ruins Of Killorn Keep 1500
A Masterfully Manufactured Fishing-Pole Made From The Third Rib Of An Archaic Leviathan No Sale
Mesanna's Lantern Of Light No Sale
Still Beating Heart Of The Daemon Of Passin Who Sought To Debauch The Dryads of Britannia No Sale
May The Light Keep Us, May Fate Smule upon Us, May We Always Be Within Sight Of A Friend No Sale
53 LOTR items No Sale
A Firecracker Rose No Sale
Happy Halloween Lantern 525
The Heart of the Lich, Though Beyond Repair The Phylactery Still Pulses With Dark Powers No Sale
Testimony of Minoc's Blacksmith Spirit 250
A Window Light From The Christmas Yeti 600
Eternal Bonds of Friend No Sale
A Crusty Pickaxe Coated In Zombie Goop No Sale

FLOOR 4
2x Abyssal Mesanna Punpkin No Sale
Tree of Love 300
A Fragment of the Destroyed Souls of Doloras And Timyra No Sale
Subterranean Crystal Formed From Mantle Of Sosaria No Sale
A Mystical Wardrobe That connects Worlds, With The Carving: In The Name Of The Father No Sale
Nujel'm Sandcastle No Sale
Last Remnants From The Knights Of Sacrifice Guards 465
Lilavieve's Lucky Four-Leaf Clover No Sale
Balhae Xmas Holiday Tree 2017 No Sale
Dangerous Mushroom Specimen Retrieved For The Britannian Naturalist Association No Sale
An Ornate Chest Filled To The Brim With Gold And Gemstones No Sale
A Painting Of Ephyram's Spirit Lost In Eternity No Sale
A Starlight Forged Treasure Chest Used Ton Conceal Lost Relics No Sale
The World Anvil: The True Form Of This Object Is Far Beyond Your Terrestrial Comprehension. No Sale
Jin-Baori crafted by using Bits Of Okami Oni Fur No Sale
A Blood Soaked Codex Immortalized By The horride Murders of Bane: Ashmedai 255
Library Of An Ancient Necromancer 200
A Terrible Mage Transofmred By His Own Spells Into An Eeil Cannibal Piggy No Sale
Dolphins Love The Sea of Tokuno No Sale
Teddy Bear Ring Pillow No Sale
A Scrap Of Memory Torn From The Mind Of Charlotte Amandine Showing The Murder Of Her Family No Sale
I Gave (my life) And Took (this Wonderful Crystal) From Felucca, Drachenfels No Sale
Antique Crucible Containing The Scorched Remnants Of the Legendary Pyros – Titan of Flame No Sale
Erethian's Crystal Ball Crafted Of Purest Zanium No Sale
Dophin's Essence of Goodness No Sale
A Burnt Jack O'Lantern 610

HOUSE 1 TOTAL 17016

HOUSE 2

FLOOR 1

Golden Chessboard, Chessmen, Chess Pieces 701
A Lifelike Carving Of Tal'Keesh No Sale
Spitoon 300
A Robe Worn By The Rainbow Mage (Blessed) No Sale
A Spying Bug No Sale
Algid No Sale
Life's Ruination No Sale
Exeptional Robe Crated By The Black One 400
Melted Snow No Sale
Hordezilla Egg No Sale
Visage of Drax'velthos No Sale
Orb of Psychic Focus No Sale
A Bruned Statue Of A Black Basilisk 350
Cactus With The Frost 175
Light of the Crossroads No Sale
The Akashic Records 200
The Sacred Anvil of Minoc 300
Dardboard (south) 100
A Deep Sky Spyglass 400
Horse 500
The Corrosive and Magic Skirt of the Golden Man 425
Cinderella's Glass Shoes 2000
Mandrake Root 1700
A Miniature Of Zalindera The Spider Goddess 500

FLOOR 2
Sniffer's Sharp Stick For Your Eye No Sale
Corrupted Exodus Energy Cell 350
The Mounted head Of The Dragon Setekh – Slain on St. George's Day 2015 No Sale
A Translucent Statue Of Adamu Edom The Ascended Britannian 125
Ancient Stone Relic Of A Long Forgotten orcish Empire 400
Burst Of Energy 600
A Container Which Holds The Essence Of Borbarads Morbid Sense of Humor 350
A Strange Flask Swirling With Dark Power (Caution: It Looks volatile) 200
Ancient Tourmaline Statue Left Behind By The First Rules of Felucca 175
The Cheater's Dice and Cup 250
Lessons On Virtue: A Knights Of The Crux Ansata Interpretation Of The Founding Principles No Sale
An Epic Flail 750
Key To the City of Trinsic 150
Big Bad Wolf Action Figure No Sale
A Chemistry Set No Sale
Captain Stephen's Navigation Map 500
Beloved Ashes of Algernon No Sale
Toy Sculpted By Mugu 175
EM takako's Lucky Event Dice, 4 Years 125
Bag of Orciez Fuud 400
Pixiechaun No Sale
Cornerstone Of The first Knights Of The Crux Ansata Temple, It is covered In Archaic symbols No Sale
Peace Rose No Sale
Protector of the Sea, Savior Of The Sea 500

FLOOR 3
Giant Candy Cane 120
These Platemail Leggings Carry The Regalia Of An Officer Of The Knights Of The Crux Ansata 275
2x Rubble Tapestry No Sale
Anju Sermani – A Magical Spell From Old Sosaria Used To Restore A Destroyed Body No Sale
Piglet Disguised As A Peachick 500
Amphibious Piglet No Sale
Sculpture Of Roland The Rat No Sale
The Tunic Of The Evil Knight, The Leggings Of The Evil Knight No Sale
The Heart Of The Lich, Though Beyond Repair The Phylactery Still Pulses With Dark Powers No Sale
Beware The Ides of March 200
Bottles of Liquor 150
Felucca's Madness: Embrace The Fear No Sale
Statue (wing healing chgs) 125
Keroro Kawaii Frog No Sale
A Branch Of The Mysterious Cherry Blossom Tree No Sale
The Wave Of Nightmarish Dreams No Sale
Statue (SURFER clumsy charge) 100
Golden Chalice With Dr. Wigglesworth Final Sacrifice 175
The Torn and Tattered Hide Skinned Off The Corpse Of An Ancient Lycanthrope No Sale
Europa 5x Element Gypsy Lelas Crystal Ball Set No Sale
7x Crib set No Sale
40 100
The First Bloom of Spring 100
Singing Ball 100

FLOOR 4
Ancient Ruby Lantern Containing The forgotten Fires of Felucca No Sale
HTML Runebook No Sale
HTML Runebook No Sale
2x Tapestry Commissioned By The King 325
A Golden Palm Cut By The Crew Of the Craven Heart No Sale
A Blood Soaked Deadwood Tree Immortalized By The Horrid Murders Of Bane: Ashmedai No Sale
Boulder 500
HTML Runebook No Sale
HTML Key x2 No Sale
Purple Lantern dbl Blessed No Sale
HTML Runebook No Sale
3-piece boulder 900
4x HTML Runebook No Sale
Necklace and Earrings dbl blessed No Sale
Dbl Blessed Tambourine No Sale
HTML Runebook No Sale
HTML Runebook No Sale
6x HTML Runebook No Sale
3x HTML Bracelets No Sale
Dbl Blessed Wide-Brim Hat No Sale
Skull of Mordra No Sale
The Shirt Off An Unlucky Leprechauns Back 185
9pce rubble Display Case No Sale
Newly Invented Weather Predicting Machine No Sale
Dbl Blessed Shirt + Dbl Blessed Doublet No Sale
HTML Runebook No Sale

HOUSE 2 TOTAL 16956

GRAND TOTAL 33972

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"**NEW** The books will not be open to the public and only title of the book will be visible to buyers. You may use this space to display any pertinent information of the item. I recommend the Season, Server and/or Qty.
For example: S14 Atlantic 1/30"

why will the title only be visible to public? I think if im bidding on an item i have the right to know where or who it came from.
 

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I have an important question for the rares community, will this auction be properly governed and not contain 68/141 items of a auction house representatives items?
I believe some clarity would be nice this time around to see whos rares are going to be displayed at your own "minor exceptions at our own discretion."

I am all for the rares fest i think it's a great thing for the community, however it would be nice to be run without personal player Agendas and more for the community as a whole.


Rules for item submissions:
  • All submissions must be submitted by the deadline. No exceptions. Please see the timeline above.
  • Items that are better off placed on vendors will not be accepted.
  • In the event we are given two or more of the same items the one with lower buyout and/or reserve will be displayed for auction first.
  • Sellers with fewer submissions may receive priority.
  • We might make our own minor exceptions at our own discretion.
 

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I have an important question for the rares community, will this auction be properly governed and not contain 68/141 items of a auction house representatives items?
I believe some clarity would be nice this time around to see whos rares are going to be displayed at your own "minor exceptions at our own discretion."

I am all for the rares fest i think it's a great thing for the community, however it would be nice to be run without personal player Agendas and more for the community as a whole.


Rules for item submissions:
  • All submissions must be submitted by the deadline. No exceptions. Please see the timeline above.
  • Items that are better off placed on vendors will not be accepted.
  • In the event we are given two or more of the same items the one with lower buyout and/or reserve will be displayed for auction first.
  • Sellers with fewer submissions may receive priority.
  • We might make our own minor exceptions at our own discretion.

This is the third Rares Jubilee we have run and we haven't had any problems yet. Last Rares Jubilee we often removed our own items from the auction when we had submissions from other players and it will be the same this time as well. Everyone elses submissions will always be prioritized over submissions from staff.

I do appreciate and understand the concern. Feel free to PM me if you have any other future concerns as well.
 

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I understand your concerns.

We decided on these rules after discussion of how to address several issues from multiple previous fests. In the last fest the staff were left in a situation where the houses were set to open, but were still 1/3 empty. So filler items were added. Items were actually accepted AFTER the deadline, and many of those filler items were replaced. To address this, we've reduced the number of lots, hoping for smaller houses with higher end items, no duplicates, and no outrageous reserves.

We also discussed names on books. Some fests have had names and others have not. Last fest there were multiple issues with buyers trying to cut side deals, getting buyouts lowered, etc in private leaving multiple players who submitted items feeling uncomfortable. To make it fair for all buyers, and encourage how the bidding is actually supposed to work, we decided to remove names.

Everyone is free to submit items. Observe the guidelines, submit by the deadline, and enjoy the fest :)
 

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We also discussed names on books. Some fests have had names and others have not. Last fest there were multiple issues with buyers trying to cut side deals, getting buyouts lowered, etc in private leaving multiple players who submitted items feeling uncomfortable. To make it fair for all buyers, and encourage how the bidding is actually supposed to work, we decided to remove names.

Everyone is free to submit items. Observe the guidelines, submit by the deadline, and enjoy the fest :)

For clarity sake I hope you guys change this decision.

1. there are certain people that i would not want to buy from. Even if i wanted/needed the item i would refuse to purchase that item. In fairness i understand why the fest would allow these people to submit items but also in fairness those of us that do not wish to support those people should know which items are theirs so we can avoid them.

2. I worry friends of certain items will be up bidding these items. With out clarity there will be no way for bidders to recognize if they are getting swindled by the item owners friends.

3. All around it seems very shady to not have names listed. Clarity/transparency are key in all rares transactions.
 

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For clarity sake I hope you guys change this decision.

1. there are certain people that i would not want to buy from. Even if i wanted/needed the item i would refuse to purchase that item. In fairness i understand why the fest would allow these people to submit items but also in fairness those of us that do not wish to support those people should know which items are theirs so we can avoid them.

2. I worry friends of certain items will be up bidding these items. With out clarity there will be no way for bidders to recognize if they are getting swindled by the item owners friends.

3. All around it seems very shady to not have names listed. Clarity/transparency are key in all rares transactions.
I actually agree with you here, and I know multiple other people who feel the same way. There are certain individuals I just won't do business with and would rather not have an item than buying it from them. So the odds of me bidding at an anonymous silent auction are near nil.
 

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So the odds of me bidding at an anonymous silent auction are near nil.
Im sorry to hear that. We will definitely consider all feedback we receive this Jubilee. If this much requested change to keeping sellers anonymous doesn't work out we will strongly consider changing back for next time.

We hope you still decide to check out the Jubilee and have some fun =]
 

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I actually agree with you here, and I know multiple other people who feel the same way. There are certain individuals I just won't do business with and would rather not have an item than buying it from them. So the odds of me bidding at an anonymous silent auction are near nil.
I hope the compromise is that they let the seller decide whether or not to have their name listed, rather than making a blank statement across the board. I, as many other buyers would then only purchase items from those that were listed from trusted/liked sellers.
 
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I hope the compromise is that they let the seller decide whether or not to have their name listed, rather than making a blank statement across the board. I, as many other buyers would then only purchase items from those that were listed from trusted/liked sellers.

We never planned to force anyone to be anonymous. If anyone really wants their name in the book title they submit, they can. Apologies if it came across as us forcing people to be anonymous.
 

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will this auction be properly governed and not contain 68/141 items of a auction house representatives items?
This to me is the bigger issue than having people say who they really are, honestly it makes no difference who's selling as long as it's not a hidden staff members rares. Thanks for clarifying the details of the Jubilee @Laina and @Promathia :thumbup:
 

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We never planned to force anyone to be anonymous. If anyone really wants their name in the book title they submit, they can. Apologies if it came across as us forcing people to be anonymous.
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How else are you supposed to interpret that?

to help you understand... when someone says "the books will not be open to the public" in general that usually means that the books will be private... as in not open to the public.... as all sellers will be anonymous.

Furthermore, when it says " and only title of the book will be visible to buyers" one could easily assume that only the title would be visible to the buyers... and not other information like who owns the item.

It seems pretty simple to me but some people need a little help. Glad i could help you understand why some people misconstrued the wording.

I recommend the wording be changed so sellers know that there is an option for them to have their book be public and known to buyers.
 

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As one of the auctioneers for the Atlantic 2018 Rares Fest Silent Auction I am happy to say that I did not turn away any item/lot that met the rules laid out by Nails [bcolor=rgb(16, 16, 16)]here[/bcolor]. Everything submitted to me was accepted, displayed and auctioned. Unfortunately this means that we did get an unusually high number of submissions from a few people (this is addressed later on). There was absolutely no preferential treatment regarding any submissions, whether it be from staff or not. In fact, as previously mentioned staff items were removed and always will be removed in favor of non-staff submissions.

To elaborate on "minor exceptions at our own discretion," it almost completely refers to "Items that are better off placed on vendors will not be accepted." We realize that some items fluctuate over time and we don't know the value of every item so when in doubt we may display an item for auction that is a borderline vendor item. Extremely rare but still spawning items, such as Moonstone Jewelry, blaze Cu Sidhe, etc. would also fall under this category and be at our discretion.

In the Auction House #2 that I ran there were not 68 (or more) of 142 lots in the house that belonged to any single person up for bid - that is libel and I would urge you to independently determine the [lack of] credibility of the source of that information. I'm not certain if this is true for the Auction House #1 and the Overstock house but I would have been made aware if a single person had that many items so I highly doubt it. As explained by Laina:

In the last fest the staff were left in a situation where the houses were set to open, but were still 1/3 empty. So filler items were added. Items were actually accepted AFTER the deadline, and many of those filler items were replaced. To address this, we've reduced the number of lots, hoping for smaller houses with higher end items, no duplicates, and no outrageous reserves.
Anything submitted after the deadline this time around will be declined, there won't be any filler items added to the auction and I will be a quite a bit more stricter on values/spawning 'rares'. We're constantly trying to improve the quality of festivals and auctions so hopefully this addresses any issues in the past :) Thanks for the feedback so far!
 
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How else are you supposed to interpret that?

to help you understand... when someone says "the books will not be open to the public" in general that usually means that the books will be private... as in not open to the public.... as all sellers will be anonymous.

Furthermore, when it says " and only title of the book will be visible to buyers" one could easily assume that only the title would be visible to the buyers... and not other information like who owns the item.

It seems pretty simple to me but some people need a little help. Glad i could help you understand why some people misconstrued the wording.

I recommend the wording be changed so sellers know that there is an option for them to have their book be public and known to buyers.
The wording is exactly what it is supposed to be. The books WILL be closed and ONLY the titles will be visible. In the title, you may included any "pertinent information" you deem necessary for your item, that of course includes your name if you so strongly wish people know who it is that is selling said item.

Example:


Here I am putting the information I deem relevant for my item: there were a total of 14 , it was from season 12 and my name is Promathia.

You can also use the Enhanced Client to put more in the title as so:



Everyone is starting Anonymous, it is up to those who submit items to decide if they want their name in the title or not.
 

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The wording is exactly what it is supposed to be. The books WILL be closed and ONLY the titles will be visible. In the title, you may included any "pertinent information" you deem necessary for your item, that of course includes your name if you so strongly wish people know who it is that is selling said item.

Example:


Here I am putting the information I deem relevant for my item: there were a total of 14 , it was from season 12 and my name is Promathia.

You can also use the Enhanced Client to put more in the title as so:



Everyone is starting Anonymous, it is up to those who submit items to decide if they want their name in the title or not.
Funny that none of that is in the how to submit an item part of the original post. in fact in every example given it says to put season and server in title. perhaps it should be changed so people know they can put their name in the title.
 

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I have made a few minor edits to the original post that hopefully clear up the book title issues brought up so far.

edit: made a few further updates to the original post to address questions in this thread and once I received over ICQ. They are nothing new just expanding on what's already been covered.
 
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in fact in every example given it says to put season and server in title. perhaps it should be changed so people know they can put their name in the title.



"Recommend" putting the season and server in the title. As per the picture, you may "use this space to display any pertinent information of the item" which includes who is selling the item if you so wish.
 

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In the Auction House #2 that I ran there were not 68 (or more) of 142 lots in the house that belonged to any single person up for bid - that is libel and I would urge you to independently determine the [lack of] credibility of the source of that information.


Not sure why we are lying about this, its over with now.
This claim was also verified (and greatly frowned upon) by previous staff of the rares fest.

This is the whole reason it was brought up in the first place.
 

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Not sure why we are lying about this, its over with now.
This claim was also verified (and greatly frowned upon) by previous staff of the rares fest.

This is the whole reason it was brought up in the first place.

Again, items from nonstaff were prioritized and staff items were removed whenever other players submitted items. This is a complete nonissue. No one was turned away due to staff having their own items in the auction.
 

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Not sure why we are lying about this, its over with now.
This claim was also verified (and greatly frowned upon) by previous staff of the rares fest.

This is the whole reason it was brought up in the first place.
So you're calling me a liar now? Go check out Nail's Pictures for Auction House #2 and I stand by my statement: in the Auction House #2 that I ran there were not 68 (or more) of 142 lots in the house that belonged to any single person up for bid. Proving ONCE AGAIN everything that's been said time and time again in this thread.
What happened to the goza's in the picture? Nice cheats and client edits by whoever took those pictures [bcolor=rgb(16, 16, 16)];)[/bcolor]
 
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Again, items from nonstaff were prioritized and staff items were removed whenever other players submitted items. This is a complete nonissue. No one was turned away due to staff having their own items in the auction.
I am fully aware, this is not the problem at hand however. The problem is someone abusing the trust of the community. I have no desire to go into a "witch hunt" but i have the right to defend against my "credibility" when even staff members were complaining about the auction house being described at the last rares fest.

Again, i fully support the rares fest and wish this Rares Jubilee the best of luck :)
 

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@de LEET ed the items you pictured were 3 peoples items, not all olchers. I havent seen you ever buy rares. staying in stratics TOS, lets only mention how you have effected the rares community over the past year. IMO you dont have much of a say.

I feel like your problem isnt with the fest, but who is running the fest and how it may effect your own profits.

Your welcome to submit, or buy, but please keep your personal problems to yourself (at least during raresfest)

@Scribbles the raresfest you were staff on yourself didnt have books / names. i feel like your just complaining about it because you dont want other idocers to do well in the rarefest. while i understand your concerns, i havent seen you actually buy rares in a while. It appears like you have no personal interest in the fest, other than just taking shots to effect your own idoc competition.

i myself helped make these rules, and while i also have problems with many buyers and sellers, raresfest are supposed to be a time to put those feuds aside. Its supposed to bring players together. think of it as a "cease fire" in the rares war of UO.

As to number of items from one player, ive complained in the past about the number of items in auction houses. Id prefer fewer items. which we're trying to do this fest, so that empty space does not have to be "filled up". i was not happy about the auction houses in the last fest, but it also wasnt 68 from one person. for the record, i wanted limit of 4 items per person. However, even this would never be possible. people just make alt icqs, accounts etc, so it wouldnt even be enforceable, which wouldnt be fair to players who did actually respect the rules.
 
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Tradionally, feedback threads are also posted AFTER the fest. with the amount of organization and preperation, during the fest isnt the best time for feedback. Ive been unhappy with a good number of fests, but have with held criticism until after the fest. i ask you all to do the same. There will be a feedback thread after the fest is over. Or feel free to hold your own fests, and handle them any way you like. The more people holding them, the better.
 
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Okay the present concerns about how many items each person is auctioning have been brought up and answered. It is up to each individual to decide on whether they want to offer anything for auction or attend and purchase anything. Future concerns about how many items are being auctioned by any one individual should be handled in-game, via discord or icq or teamspeak etc. Continuation will lead to a thread ban and warning.
 

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@de LEET ed the items you pictured were 3 peoples items, not all olchers. I havent seen you ever buy rares. staying in stratics TOS, lets only mention how you have effected the rares community over the past year. IMO you dont have much of a say.

I feel like your problem isnt with the fest, but who is running the fest and how it may effect your own profits.

Your welcome to submit, or buy, but please keep your personal problems to yourself (at least during raresfest)

@Scribbles the raresfest you were staff on yourself didnt have books / names. i feel like your just complaining about it because you dont want other idocers to do well in the rarefest. while i understand your concerns, i havent seen you actually buy rares in a while. It appears like you have no personal interest in the fest, other than just taking shots to effect your own idoc competition.

i myself helped make these rules, and while i also have problems with many buyers and sellers, raresfest are supposed to be a time to put those feuds aside. Its supposed to bring players together. think of it as a "cease fire" in the rares war of UO.

As to number of items from one player, ive complained in the past about the number of items in auction houses. Id prefer fewer items. which we're trying to do this fest, so that empty space does not have to be "filled up". i was not happy about the auction houses in the last fest, but it also wasnt 68 from one person. for the record, i wanted limit of 4 items per person. However, even this would never be possible. people just make alt icqs, accounts etc, so it wouldnt even be enforceable, which wouldnt be fair to players who did actually respect the rules.
HAHAHAHAHA I Couldn't have said that one better myself. So many tears sheesh. its just a gameeee! or is it??
 

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quite simply i think it should be a mandatory thing to have name of seller included in the book for viewing
 

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I am not sure how this thread came to be on the topic at hand now but if I was to vote, which no one is asking me to, I would say that having names on books doesn't mean anything. Take the last rares fest for example. The people who didn't want you to know their more popular or well known names just submitted items under bs char names. In the end, if someone wants to get around their name being on the book they will. With that being said, I do think names should be on books for what its worth.
 

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@Scribbles the raresfest you were staff on yourself didnt have books / names. i feel like your just complaining about it because you dont want other idocers to do well in the rarefest. while i understand your concerns, i havent seen you actually buy rares in a while. It appears like you have no personal interest in the fest, other than just taking shots to effect your own idoc competition..
While I have been on several raresfest staff, I was mainly there to run events or help with transfers. I Had no input on auctions or vendors.

As far as me buying rares... Recently I purchased Golden man arms from yours truly... Guess you dont remember that transaction if you would like i can send you a picture of our icq chat. Also my house in Toad town is public, feel free to come by and look at my collection any time.

as ive stated before, i would prefer to not buy from certain people. This has been alleviated due to the change that @Olcher has made in the rules for submitting section. I would recommend all sellers put their name in the title of the submission book so people know who they are buying from.

also id like to say thanks to @Olcher for understanding my concerns and changing the submit rules so sellers can put their name in the title. It is much appreciated.
 

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This has been alleviated due to the change that @Olcher has made in the rules for submitting section. I would recommend all sellers put their name in the title of the submission book so people know who they are buying from.

also id like to say thanks to @Olcher for understanding my concerns and changing the submit rules so sellers can put their name in the title. It is much appreciated.

Just to say, the submit rules were not changed. It was always a thing where people could put whatever information they wanted in the title of the book. Olcher simply clarified further since there were issues with this misunderstanding we seem to keep having.
 
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