PvP Complaints

[ColterDC]

1. EO and Para. Even with 120 resist spells you get screwed by this combo. You shouldn't need to carry a trap box just because of this ganker tactic.


2. Greater Dragons. These things are overpowered. Magery attacks, physical attacks, bleed attack = to much damage to quickly. Don't tell me that just because the tamer is on foot that it balances it out. Most of the tamers also have ninja and are moving at mounted speed.

 

[JC the Builder]

3) Wither - I wish mages could cast a barrage of simultaneous energy bolts on every target in a 4 tile radius around them.

 

[DuHast]

4) using trapped boxes to run right trough a fielded area
5) speedhackers

 

[Viper09]

6) Constant complaints over every little aspect in PVP that has the slightest advantage in the field as opposed to trying to adapt. (hacking not included)

 

[Redxpanda]

Overhaul needed badly! I'll leave it at that

 

[Zhakarin]

7) the exploit that allows one to avoid the mana cost penalty for chaining special moves with less than 3 seconds seperation
8) the timer exploit that allows area-peacemaking to be used continuously
9) the exploit that allows a mage to avoid the spell casting rubber banding change that was put in last year

 

[Widow Maker]

Blue bards attacking blue pets and not going gray.

Enhanced pots ability should only be for alchemists for above 25% EP.

Speeder and it's related programs.

PvPing via GM

 

[Viper09]

Blue bards attacking blue pets and not going gray.

Enhanced pots ability should only be for alchemists for above 25% EP.

Speeder and it's related programs.

PvPing via GM

Ugh, enhanced pots are ONLY for those who have enhance potions jewels or talismans. Potions are not made enhanced, they are only enhanced through the jewels and talisman. If someone wants to sacrifice room for other bonus' for enhance pots, thats their choice, and is thus, your choice too.
If you want to whine about others having the ability to use enhance potions bonus' then let us whine that fc/fcr should ONLY be for mages, and hci/dci should ONLY be for warriors. That way we wont be hypocryts. aye?

 

[Scratch]

1. EO and Para. Even with 120 resist spells you get screwed by this combo. You shouldn't need to carry a trap box just because of this ganker tactic.


2. Greater Dragons. These things are overpowered. Magery attacks, physical attacks, bleed attack = to much damage to quickly. Don't tell me that just because the tamer is on foot that it balances it out. Most of the tamers also have ninja and are moving at mounted speed.

althought the tamer pvpers who think they are gods are among us

lets examine the newest pvp tamer template

120 tame
120 lore
120 vet
stack of bolas
one greater dragon

yup thats it
all you need to take out the best of the pvpers

360>720

ea has ruined the game
client base is at all time low
tokens emerge to make up the difference in income for ea
so why even play just buy tokens
ea will be happy

 

[Viper09]

althought the tamer pvpers who think they are gods are among us

lets examine the newest pvp tamer template

120 tame
120 lore
120 vet
stack of bolas
one greater dragon

yup thats it
all you need to take out the best of the pvpers

360>720

ea has ruined the game
client base is at all time low
tokens emerge to make up the difference in income for ea
so why even play just buy tokens
ea will be happy

The best pvper would know how to avoid tamers and take them out easily. All tamers do is hide behind their pets. I do admit greater dragons are a big advantage, but I have also seen a group of pks kill the pet and their tamer without so much of a sweat. So I fail to see why all the complaining about it.

 

[Scratch]

it should not require that a group of people are needed to kill a 360 point tamer and his pet.

next publish they will have tamable dark fathers

 

[Viper09]

Whats wrong with a little competition? lol
Plus, it wouldn't take a group to kill a tamer, just the pet. One person can simply distract the pet while the other kills the tamer. A little teamwork can go a long way, and a lot of pk's understand that simple concept.

 

[Scratch]

you obviously missed the point or you have a pvp tamer

 

[Viper09]

No tamer for me, I don't have the patience to create one. But I did not miss the point. I just don't see it as a major issue. For the sake of argument, though, I see people manage to work around the pets, and I also see groups being needed to kill one player (NOT TALKING OF A TAMER). No, a group shouldn't be needed to kill a pet, and in most cases a group is not needed. And no, a group shouldn't be needed to kill one player, but that is the case from time to time.

 

[Scratch]

No tamer for me, I don't have the patience to create one. But I did not miss the point. I just don't see it as a major issue. For the sake of argument, though, I see people manage to work around the pets, and I also see groups being needed to kill one player (NOT TALKING OF A TAMER). No, a group shouldn't be needed to kill a pet, and in most cases a group is not needed. And no, a group shouldn't be needed to kill one player, but that is the case from time to time.

yes aside from tamers there are a number of cheaters amongst us now and they are hard to catch let alone kill. but if ea took action against all of the cheaters today, their not little and still shrinking client base would be reduced down to 25% of what it is today

 

[Widow Maker]

Ugh, enhanced pots are ONLY for those who have enhance potions jewels or talismans. Potions are not made enhanced, they are only enhanced through the jewels and talisman. If someone wants to sacrifice room for other bonus' for enhance pots, thats their choice, and is thus, your choice too.
If you want to whine about others having the ability to use enhance potions bonus' then let us whine that fc/fcr should ONLY be for mages, and hci/dci should ONLY be for warriors. That way we wont be hypocryts. aye?

Enhance Pots must have a cap for those without the alchemy skill, simple as that. As far as the other items you mentioned. I am ALL for it.

 

[ColterDC]

I think I've had all I can take of overpowered greater dragons.

These things need a major adjustment in pvp.

 

[o2bavr6]

The best pvper would know how to avoid tamers and take them out easily. All tamers do is hide behind their pets. I do admit greater dragons are a big advantage, but I have also seen a group of pks kill the pet and their tamer without so much of a sweat. So I fail to see why all the complaining about it.

The magic word in your response was "group"

All I do is para the dragon then start to dump on the tamer, then re-para the dragon and kill off the tamer. This can be done by a lone mage successfully.

 

[o2bavr6]

1. EO and Para. Even with 120 resist spells you get screwed by this combo. You shouldn't need to carry a trap box just because of this ganker tactic.

Magic Resist should play into this, i'm not sure why it doesn't. But with EA you never know.

Also trapped boxes are the scourge of PvP. They totaly negate the melee template from needing the magic resist skill. This allows them to make some of these ridiculously hard templates to kill because they end up with 120 extra skill points. And we haven't even talked about the fact that most of them chug pots like they were going out of stryle.

The fact is, if you dont want to be paralyzed or para stunned by wrestling or a weapon special, you should have to have the magic resist skill.

 

[ColterDC]

Also trapped boxes are the scourge of PvP. They totaly negate the melee template from needing the magic resist skill. This allows them to make some of these ridiculously hard templates to kill because they end up with 120 extra skill points.

Exactly

This is what people don't seem to grasp.

Not only does a trapped box replace a skill it is essentially better than the skill it is replacing.

For example;

Char with 120 resist and no trapped box gets EO and Para cast on him. Unable to break away he is X fielded and killed.

Char with 0 resist and a trapped box also has EO and Para cast on him. One click of his trapped box button and he's free.

That is complete BS.

 

[weins201]

But seriously Greater dragons are mean BUT I see as many red greaters as i do see blue (green) ones when there is a good PvP fight going on. If you are upset because you are trying to kill a player one on one that you have caught out in the open but cannot then tought you have been beaten its that simple. Just because you cannot win doesnt mean changes need to be made. I have seen planty of tamers go donw in a fight to a solo PKer.

I ahve also used my tamer in tight spots (the only place they really work) to take out others. In the open the tamer is Toast.

Trapped boxes need to be fixed - most definatly.

Nija aniamal form should cost a controller slot - simple easy fix.

If you wear enhance pots stuff then you should get the full benifit no alchemy needed. if oyu have alchemy you get a bigger bonus no change needed there.

evil omen should not loer resist - it should make the effect of some spells more effective; poison, and other damaging spells but not paralyze another simple fix and would make Resist viable again. (somwhat)

any program that give an advantage in PvP shold be bannable...

and to colter i was just giving ya lip couldnt resist. wait i have a trapped box LoL

 

[Nystul]

1. EO and Para. Even with 120 resist spells you get screwed by this combo. You shouldn't need to carry a trap box just because of this ganker tactic.

Yeah, and even with 0 resist, my paralyze is still worthless thanks to your trapped box!
It goes both ways.

2. Greater Dragons. These things are overpowered. Magery attacks, physical attacks, bleed attack = to much damage to quickly. Don't tell me that just because the tamer is on foot that it balances it out. Most of the tamers also have ninja and are moving at mounted speed.

I can agree with this.

They would'nt be so bad if thier breath attack had damage reduction. Its BS pets can still cast from 1-2 screens away, on other sides of houses, etc.

 

[Lord Kotan]

3) Wither - I wish mages could cast a barrage of simultaneous energy bolts on every target in a 4 tile radius around them.

I thought it was more than 4 tiles?

 

[Lord Kotan]

7) the exploit that allows one to avoid the mana cost penalty for chaining special moves with less than 3 seconds seperation
8) the timer exploit that allows area-peacemaking to be used continuously
9) the exploit that allows a mage to avoid the spell casting rubber banding change that was put in last year

what advantage is actually gained by the Rubber Banding.


*) The exploit that lets you run through ball bags

 

[Lord Kotan]

The magic word in your response was "group"

All I do is para the dragon then start to dump on the tamer, then re-para the dragon and kill off the tamer. This can be done by a lone mage successfully.

It's hard to para a dragon very long that has 110 resist.... You should know this.

 

[envinyatar]

How can I run back and kill the tamer when he's hidden?

This is the lamest suggestion you ******** people keep giving. If it takes a group to kill 1 char then that char is overpowered.

Sounds to me like you're just another twink defending your overpowered pet.

First, I don't pvp with my tamer. I think its lame to rely in a pet, but that's my opinion and I don't complain when others do, it's their choice.

Second, I don't go around insulting and attacking people when they are trying to give advice or opinions. "If it takes a group to kill 1 char then that char is overpowered" sounds a little communist to me, you should have just said "let's nerf anyone that is better then me." If someone is better than you, figure out how you can beat them on your own terms, don't rely on someone else to make it easier for you.

 

[Krystal]

1) Speedhackers
2) Super Dragons - do these dragon really need to be able to cast at u when ur 4 screens away from them? I run off, the dragon is no where in sight. FS, poisons and all kinda spells are still going off on me. i die, cause i thought i was safe but then guild mates are like wtf that dragon got recalled back 10 secs ago! tamers dont even know that they killed thier enemies over half the time.
3) bolas - need to get rid of, or need skill to throw one

 

[envinyatar]

1) Speedhackers
2) Super Dragons - do these dragon really need to be able to cast at u when ur 4 screens away from them? I run off, the dragon is no where in sight. FS, poisons and all kinda spells are still going off on me. i die, cause i thought i was safe but then guild mates are like wtf that dragon got recalled back 10 secs ago! tamers dont even know that they killed thier enemies over half the time.
3) bolas - need to get rid of, or need skill to throw one

I do agree that the dragons should not be able to cast on you when you're several screens away. This has happened to me several times (mainly in pvm though). I also agree that the bolas should have a requirement to be effective, whether that be a certain level of strength and dex or something else is up to the devs.

 

[JC the Builder]

I thought it was more than 4 tiles?

It is 4 tiles. I had a picture showing the 9x9 area in a topic a couple months ago and people were saying that couldn't be true. If you want to see what a 9x9 area looks like just pull up the size plot in the housing menu and look at its ghost image.

 

[ColterDC]

1) Speedhackers

Yep most definately that should be number 1 on the list Krystal.

I just didn't bother to add it because I really doubt EA is ever going to do what it takes to remove all the cheating in this game.

 

[o2bavr6]

It's hard to para a dragon very long that has 110 resist.... You should know this.

Not when you have 120 mage and eval. I do it all the time to them and some of these Greater Drags have ridiculous skills.

 

[Bardie]

yes aside from tamers there are a number of cheaters amongst us now and they are hard to catch let alone kill. but if ea took action against all of the cheaters today, their not little and still shrinking client base would be reduced down to 25% of what it is today

25%???! What shard do you play on? Cause the ones i play on would knock the client base to well under 50% sad to say but its true...

 

[Orvago]

Thread cleansed. Please stay on topic, this is NOT a debate of someones proclaimed "PvP Tactics" or some other venue to criticize another player.

This thread is for feedback and suggestions, so leave the whining, cheese, and no so witty retorts for Spiels n' Rants.

Thank you!

 

[Nystul]

3) Wither - I wish mages could cast a barrage of simultaneous energy bolts on every target in a 4 tile radius around them.

lol

stop humoring us!

here is a simple solution for wither.

walk away from it?

don't be stupid and zerg into a buncha fields without fresh fields behind you or else you will get walled/fielded in and owned via wither.

BUT WAIT THERE IS MORE!

EP + GHeal pot & GHeal wands = wither can't kill you!

Only rookies run into choke points, grinders, etc. without being able to chug and/or wand and die.

But I bet you allready tried that, and do that and it don't work right?

 

[Limlight]

Wither is fine like it is.

But by the beard of Zues.

Make the speedhackers stop and whatever allows certain ATL people to cast while running...for the love of everything. Fix this.

Dont ban people ... just fix the program to not allow it and not allow certain programs to be up.

 

[Scratch]

25%???! What shard do you play on? Cause the ones i play on would knock the client base to well under 50% sad to say but its true...

my under 25% is far more than your under 50%
you must play a good shard