PVP and the new patch.

[virem]

I don't really play dexxers... they are boring. However, this patch is appears to be an insane dexxer nerf, for no reason. PVP was fine -- the most balanced I have seen it in years. There is no reason at all to change these things. Throwers needed a nerf, thats it. This is Origin screwing everything up for another year... while they try to fix it all, again. Just plain stupid.

 

[Frarc]

Have you try it yet ?

 

[O'siris]

Its time for yew to be nothing but mages again!

 

[RuSini Neb]

I c u trolling now in 2 threads, tisk tisk reporter.....

 

[RuSini Neb]

Frarc, there is no way for anyone to try it if they cannot log onto Test Center using the alternate client. Maybe you're part of some super-secret testing group that isn't having a problem logging in. However, I think the rest of us might just be excluded from logging in with that client at the moment.

Tina notice he made same statement in the other thread about patch notes, and just lets it hang there, its nothing but troll bait imo... Also if one can't infer that something is wrong just by reading the patch notes, one should have there head looked into.

 

[Thrakkar]

I don't really play dexxers... they are boring. However, this patch is appears to be an insane dexxer nerf, for no reason. PVP was fine -- the most balanced I have seen it in years. There is no reason at all to change these things. Throwers needed a nerf, thats it. This is Origin screwing everything up for another year... while they try to fix it all, again. Just plain stupid.

Have you try it yet ?

Why? There are so many changes. What is so bad about them, that you know it off hand just by reading the patch notes. Frarc is absolutely right. You don't know anything about it from real experience.

Just take a look at the armor changes. Casters wearing just leather will loose stamina. As soon as it's depleted, they won't be able to move. And when they can't move, they're a sitting duck. They can't even chug one stam potion after another since they now have a cooldown.

So don't come in here, yelling, that the sky is falling. Just wait how it plays out and how it will be tweaked because of player feedback....

 

[Varrius]

Why? There are so many changes. What is so bad about them, that you know it off hand just by reading the patch notes. Frarc is absolutely right. You don't know anything about it from real experience.

Just take a look at the armor changes. Casters wearing just leather will loose stamina. As soon as it's depleted, they won't be able to move. And when they can't move, they're a sitting duck. They can't even chug one stam potion after another since they now have a cooldown.

So don't come in here, yelling, that the sky is falling. Just wait how it plays out and how it will be tweaked because of player feedback....

I don't think you need "real" experience to understand the patch notes. I could be wrong but I don't think the stam for casters will be too much of an issue except in champ spawn areas. Not sure what you mean by casters wearing just leather will have looser stamina. All stamina is the same, to my knowledge.

 

[Thrakkar]

I don't think you need "real" experience to understand the patch notes. I could be wrong but I don't think the stam for casters will be too much of an issue except in champ spawn areas. Not sure what you mean by casters wearing just leather will have looser stamina. All stamina is the same, to my knowledge.

Either you didn't read the patch notes or you didn't understand them. Here is what I'm talking about:

Player’s stamina loss will now be based on the type of armor as well as the amount of armor that is equipped*. Each piece of armor up to five pieces will reduce the amount of stamina lost when taking damage.

 

[Rumpy]

Why? There are so many changes. What is so bad about them, that you know it off hand just by reading the patch notes. Frarc is absolutely right. You don't know anything about it from real experience.

Just take a look at the armor changes. Casters wearing just leather will loose stamina. As soon as it's depleted, they won't be able to move. And when they can't move, they're a sitting duck. They can't even chug one stam potion after another since they now have a cooldown.

So don't come in here, yelling, that the sky is falling. Just wait how it plays out and how it will be tweaked because of player feedback....

So what now? Mages can't use medable armor and will also have to run non-med to avoid this from happening?

Wheres the logic in that =\

 

[virem]

Well... lets just say for a second that this patch isn't nerfing warriors (It is). What exactly is the point of all this? the game is balanced now. Its like.. lets just tweak stuff because we are bored.. none of this actually makes the game better. The majority pvpers do not want these changes.

The only thing needed to be changed was the cyclone...

You want to make the game good for pvpers?... make seige a one character shard with insurance, where you can transfer on (but not off). Don't mess with the entire game when none of you actually know anything about pvp.

 

[Varrius]

Either you didn't read the patch notes or you didn't understand them. Here is what I'm talking about:

You said something about not having loose stamina or something.... how is loose stamina different from regular stamina?

 

[SoulWeaver]

Patch notes are awful... need to remove half the stupid crap in it... The Uo Staff really needs to PvP and rethink what their updating lol

 

[chise2]

Patch notes are awful... need to remove half the stupid crap in it... The Uo Staff really needs to PvP and rethink what their updating lol

I agree I mean there is a few good things in there but so much crap..

 

[Lythos-]

If you know any game mechanics at all you can tell by the notes how it's going to turn out.

There goes half of the remaining 20 pvpers and possibly some pvmers as well.

 

[Picus of Napa]

Makes me laugh as I was attempting to write this newbie help guide but I'm now wondering if this patch is going to kill my PvP dexxers. I certainly enjoy some of the PvM but PvP is where the fun is and I've never been a good mage but alot closer to a useless one.

I'll wait and see if any feedback is taken, I'm not holding my breath as this is clearly not a well thought out patch IMO.

Sigh.

 

[Frarc]

I c u trolling now in 2 threads, tisk tisk reporter.....

First of all, as a reporter i can say my opinion as much as i want just like everyone else.

Second. If the guy did not started a new thread and just posted this on the other one just like most people do, i would not have to repeat myself.

 

[Thrakkar]

So what now? Mages can't use medable armor and will also have to run non-med to avoid this from happening?

Wheres the logic in that =\

Mages have ranged attacks. Mages don't have to stand tile to tile to their target. Mages don't need 4 secs to heal themselves. There is still the mage armor property, which fits on every suit, if people won't take some trade offs into account.

Well... lets just say for a second that this patch isn't nerfing warriors (It is). What exactly is the point of all this? the game is balanced now. Its like.. lets just tweak stuff because we are bored.. none of this actually makes the game better. The majority pvpers do not want these changes.

The only thing needed to be changed was the cyclone...

You want to make the game good for pvpers?... make seige a one character shard with insurance, where you can transfer on (but not off). Don't mess with the entire game when none of you actually know anything about pvp.

LOL. You just repeat yourself. You still bring absolutely not a single argument, why this patch is nerfering warriors. Completely useless discussion...

You said something about not having loose stamina or something.... how is loose stamina different from regular stamina?

Huh? What? Everything i "said" is still written here in this thread.

 

[Petra Fyde]

One thread is enough, we don't need 2