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Raptor85

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PVM: The new PVP

sriously, UO's pvp is quickly becoming "Pokemon Online"

p1: wanna fight
p2: sure!
p1: colossus...I choose you!
p2: go...dreadmare!
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Kael

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That's been a complaint on Siege Perilous for many, many years now. I would guess if you asked all the pvpers who have either switched shards or just quit the game completely in the last 5 years why it would rank right up there with no one left to fight as the main reason ...
 

Raptor85

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That's been a complaint on Siege Perilous for many, many years now. I would guess if you asked all the pvpers who have either switched shards or just quit the game completely in the last 5 years why it would rank right up there with no one left to fight as the main reason ...
It's gotten worse....a LOT worse than it was a few years back (and yeah, it WAS bad when i started on siege, quite a few players playing dreadmare gankers). Almost every single player left that "pvp"s is a tamer now, before i put "Raptor" inactive I had boxed my "PVP" bow in favor of always using my dragon slayer pvm bow in "PVP" situations for cripes sake. I basicly came to Siege wanting nothing but "real" PVP (not the gate fighting/house hiding nonsense) just in time for PVP to start dying on the shard...lol...by the time I was 6x120 there was nobody to fight

Siege specific i'd say top "real" reasons people left, in no particular order (no one left to fight is an obvious one, but i count people leaving due to that as a side effect of real problems)
1. superpets (greater dragons and dreadmares especially)
2. faction artifacts (added a huge item/silver grind onto pvp that didn't exist here on that level before)
3. lack of events
And for me personally...the last straw was the further complication of the items and the absolute ridiculous level you can build suits at now that started with the shame loot system, that stuff really didn't belong here.
 

Kael

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Last time I saw pvp fairly active Dreadmares weren't even being used...it was all GD. That being said faction artifacts definately played a role ( either you disliked them or supported them) and cost of suits being replaced. Events really didn't engage the pvp minded player (other than finding someone to pk or faction fight) Population became the biggest issue. Log in and run around for an hour trying to find someone to pvp or else it was one guild would have numbers so those without wouldn't come out and play.

You could always look to engage other guilds in a good old fashioned guild war!! We tried that a couple times with some good and results. Wasn't for everyone and definately wasn't the perfect situation but i'm sure Gilfane or a combination of alts/members could always form up a guild just to set up a couple of wars. Hell I might even log back into Siege for this :)
 

Sprago

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All the whining about pets but yet in all your pics you see dead pets and lots of OS around so im understanding that you won each of these fights. So really your only complaining about the amout of effort it took you to win these fights WELL IM SORRY THE PETS MADE YOU WORK FOR YOUR WIN. Tamers are the same as any other template they all have weeknesses and strengths. A tamers strentgh are there pets and a tamers weekness is the fact that they wasted 3 skills on taming so they lack so much in defensive methods.

ohh and instead of whining why not just say thanks for the fighting its the most fighting siege has seen between faction guilds in a long time. Which comments is gonna bring players? "whining about taming in pvp" or "bragging about beating tamers in pvp." something to think about

ohh and just for the record most popular template in atlantic for pvp is the tamer which is where most of our old players went to so that shows you it was never really the taming that made the difference it was the ability to get back into the fight. If in siege players when they die could resuit and be back into battle fast and easy there would be more players in siege its becasue of the supply and demand. There is lots of demand but nobody can find the supplies
 

Heavenless

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All the whining about pets but yet in all your pics you see dead pets and lots of OS around so im understanding that you won each of these fights. So really your only complaining about the amout of effort it took you to win these fights WELL IM SORRY THE PETS MADE YOU WORK FOR YOUR WIN. Tamers are the same as any other template they all have weeknesses and strengths. A tamers strentgh are there pets and a tamers weekness is the fact that they wasted 3 skills on taming so they lack so much in defensive methods.

ohh and instead of whining why not just say thanks for the fighting its the most fighting siege has seen between faction guilds in a long time. Which comments is gonna bring players? "whining about taming in pvp" or "bragging about beating tamers in pvp." something to think about

ohh and just for the record most popular template in atlantic for pvp is the tamer which is where most of our old players went to so that shows you it was never really the taming that made the difference it was the ability to get back into the fight. If in siege players when they die could resuit and be back into battle fast and easy there would be more players in siege its becasue of the supply and demand. There is lots of demand but nobody can find the supplies
You're whining about whining? Well sir I'm whining about your whining whining!! All Kill (no skill :().
 

Sprago

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lol almost makes sense bud
i looked at it my fault but i expected an intelligent comment not a "i know you are but what am i" childlike response
 

Heavenless

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lol almost makes sense bud
i looked at it my fault but i expected an intelligent comment not a "i know you are but what am i" childlike response
I expected an intelligent response to my childlike comment but I didn't look at it so it is your fault.
 

Sprago

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ok im sorry i should have just said great job you guys killed our pets your the best, im here to only play your style teach me, i wish i could play like you , my uo skill will never amount to anything compared to your uo skills
there that sounds about what ya want to hear right?
lol not gonna happen

p.s. but we still captured the sigils
 

Heavenless

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It just did happen...

p.s. but we captured screen shots

Who're you arguing w/ Sprago? I like what you guys are doing keep it up. We had fun out there, first time we actually had numbers to compete.
 

Kael

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All the whining about pets but yet in all your pics you see dead pets and lots of OS around so im understanding that you won each of these fights. So really your only complaining about the amout of effort it took you to win these fights WELL IM SORRY THE PETS MADE YOU WORK FOR YOUR WIN. Tamers are the same as any other template they all have weeknesses and strengths. A tamers strentgh are there pets and a tamers weekness is the fact that they wasted 3 skills on taming so they lack so much in defensive methods.

ohh and instead of whining why not just say thanks for the fighting its the most fighting siege has seen between faction guilds in a long time. Which comments is gonna bring players? "whining about taming in pvp" or "bragging about beating tamers in pvp." something to think about

ohh and just for the record most popular template in atlantic for pvp is the tamer which is where most of our old players went to so that shows you it was never really the taming that made the difference it was the ability to get back into the fight. If in siege players when they die could resuit and be back into battle fast and easy there would be more players in siege its becasue of the supply and demand. There is lots of demand but nobody can find the supplies
Agreed...most "overpowered" template is the pvp tamer ( read dread mare) and you will also notice people aren't pvping on any shard as much these days because of this. Is taming the main reason why pvp has gotten slower?? Who knows?? But it definitely was a deciding factor for quite a few people who were very, very active in pvp and why they quit the game. With the shame loot there really is no reason why people can be back and up fast... the question is do they wanna jump back up to pvm again??
 

Czarina

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I seem to remember taking many a dirt nap to someones RC! dont they count as a pet? too me thier stronger then a tamers pet and um follow you better then a pet hehe!
 

Tjalle

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Who're you arguing w/ Sprago? I like what you guys are doing keep it up. We had fun out there, first time we actually had numbers to compete.
The night at the loot house recently doesn´t count? :(
 

QueenZen

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Maketh a silly childlike unintelligent lengthy response to every one's responses.

Guess it also depends upon where any tamer, is from !

Tamers take forever to up them skills. Will you be my friend oh great and noble beast ?
Over and over starting from dorky bunnies on up to mega pets, they have to repeat the same darn fool tasks over and over and over again, training up their taming skills like taming, vet, lore, and all that BS like healing them selves when a mega pet opts to breath fire on em or whatevers cuz they object to wanting to become some one's pet, to become an awesome tamer. I never had the patience myself.

But it is only a set of viable UO skills, be it for self defense or pvp IF the player is um shall we say,
more Siege inclined in their style of playing.

I did have that friend that came over here from Chesapeake, and he first tried to learn all the pvp skills,
cuz he thought that was what Siege was all about. He sucked at pvp skills templates, never did those before, till I finally told him YOU are and always have been, a TAMER. You are an awesome tamer, and ya have the knowledge and patience to DO all those taming skills. Ya did em on Ches. DO those here, BE true to whom you; are a damn fine tamer.

So he changed his template, HERE, to that which he knew best, a TAMER !

And there we were one fine day, he with his lil new ww in tow, riding a nightmare,
as I was showing him around Siege. A vile vampire came and began attacking HIM,
and it was only one VMP. I observed, tried to heal him but alas, there was a man with a ww riding a nightmare and in his panic of being attacked on Siege,
he forgot-eth to even say: FLUFFY ALL KILL !!
I may not know diddly bout pvpin any more but common sense told me a fully trained white Wyrm and a nightmare, possibly coulda defeated, ONE attacking, VMP person.

So ye see ONLY a SIEGE sorta person is gonna make it as a tamer HERE,
the rest possibly born in Trammel, are not even gonna remember to say:
FLUFFLY ALL KILL, so they gonna dirtnap panicing, cuz they never got used to even being attacked before. Soooooooooooooooooo depends on the tamers really, if they are TRUE Siege ones, PHER EM maybez
cuz they not gonna panic and DIRTNAP, nor will they forget to even say:
FLUFFY ALL KILL !

:) :)

BTW my friend never came back to Siege ! *sigh*
Twas no sorrier sight than seeing a black nightmare and ww as
lil dead splotches like some checkerboard squares of corpseys on the Siege ground,
poor pets, and, well,
that one vampire didn't even attack me, he and I were too busy, both, chuckling !

Sooooooooo if any of ye are from somewhere ELSE and you ARE a tamer ...

Ye best remember ye ARE one, and try to remember to say: FLUFFY ALL KILL !

or even a gm carpenter, with no fight skills, might just kill ya with their woodplane,
or still be gigglin at ya yrs. later cuz ya forgot
ya have the skills and thus, ye can say :
FLUFFY ALL KILL !
If ya got pets, ye may as well remember, when or if attacked that you can, USE EM,
if ye need em. Tis Siege, it is Perilous here, no matter what ye templates may be !
;)
 

Bo Bo

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These O-S guys are nothing but a bunch of hypocrites! These are the same people that used to tell Bo to learn to adapt or move to atlantic. Bo believes they also told the Bo, boo hoo people arent playing the way you want them tough ****. Now they are here complaining about fights. You should be happy and thankful you have someone to fight. You and several others already chased away all the other pvpers with your poor attitudes and telling people to leave. O-S needs to enjoy the bed they made, and btw if real pvpers showed up you wouldnt leave your houses!
 

Heavenless

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These O-S guys are nothing but a bunch of hypocrites! These are the same people that used to tell Bo to learn to adapt or move to atlantic. Bo believes they also told the Bo, boo hoo people arent playing the way you want them tough ****. Now they are here complaining about fights. You should be happy and thankful you have someone to fight. You and several others already chased away all the other pvpers with your poor attitudes and telling people to leave. O-S needs to enjoy the bed they made, and btw if real pvpers showed up you wouldnt leave your houses!
I never run from the Bo...oh no there's Bo run! *dead*

All kill!
 
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