Possible thief templates - input please!

[Chippyrat]

Hey there, so I'm currently rolling a Siege Perilous thief and have a couple interesting ideas for a thief, lemme know what you think.

P.S. I don't have expansion, so please don't recommend ninja

Stealing/Snoop
Hiding/Stealth
Magery/Eval

now for the possible remaining skills:
I'm thinking possibly any of these;
Poisoning to complement magery

a little anatomy/heal which is nice to do right before going into hiding

or maybe just meditation for my magery

any other thoughts/idea's/criticism?

thanks!

 

[Viper09]

Hey there, so I'm currently rolling a Siege Perilous thief and have a couple interesting ideas for a thief, lemme know what you think.

P.S. I don't have expansion, so please don't recommend ninja

Stealing/Snoop
Hiding/Stealth
Magery/Eval

now for the possible remaining skills:
I'm thinking possibly any of these;
Poisoning to complement magery

a little anatomy/heal which is nice to do right before going into hiding

or maybe just meditation for my magery

any other thoughts/idea's/criticism?

thanks!

Here's my opinion. If you're shooting for magery, you might want meditation so you wont be sitting around waiting for enough mana to cast the next spell. And I know about this pain, I tried it once. I also tried magery with 0 eval, it really sucks, so don't try that, hehe.

I would also suggest scrapping hiding/stealth and getting resist and wrestling. Resist so you wont die from a simple para spell and if you are naked, you will have some decent resists.

Wrestling for disarm and stun, which can be really nice for a thief
Disarm steal for the win

And there you go, a mage disarm/thief.

Stealing
Snooping
Magery
Eval
Meditation
Resist
Wrestling

 

[Chippyrat]

I have thought about that, but it's really hard to get close enough to steal anything from anyone if they can see you, is it not? (plus it's quite usefull on Siege) I mainly want magery/eval for utility and guerilla tactics and some light pvp. I'm not too interested in disarm (don't i need GM armslore also?), although the stun from wrestling is quite tempting.

 

[Viper09]

I have thought about that, but it's really hard to get close enough to steal anything from anyone if they can see you, is it not? (plus it's quite usefull on Siege) I mainly want magery/eval for utility and guerilla tactics and some light pvp. I'm not too interested in disarm (don't i need GM armslore also?), although the stun from wrestling is quite tempting.

Nope, just wrestling

But it was just a suggestion.

If you can time it right, you can simply walk past someone and snoop them while passing. Just make sure you are not more than a couple steps away. When you open someones backpack you can keep it open and walk 2 steps away without it closing. Stealthing isn't a necessity, but it makes snooping a lot easier since they can't see you there.

Disarm is nice if they have a nice item in their hand and it broadens what you can and cannot take but you certainly don't need it.

But if you want to do some light PvP, you will want meditation for the regen.

 

[Nickster]

I am running


Stealing
Hiding
Stealth
Snooping
magery
ninja
tracking (dropping for alchemy though, get good EHP bonus for GM - good for heals/cures/explo!)

I know you dont have expansion so no ninja! however what you could do is add perhaps eval to support magery or wrestling to avoid melee, once i am finished training magery i will use a mage wep but wrestle is good as you can stun/disarm, always nice.

if your playing on Siege and are new to the shard drop me a PM and arrange to meet me, i will hook you up with a little starting gold and some items to help you on your way.

Regards
Nickster

 

[TheScoundrelRico]

Stealing/Snoop
Hiding/Stealth
Magery/Eval

Here are a few key questions...what will you be doing when playing, but not stealing? Also, after a steal, what do you prefer to do, run and hide, or stay and fight?

How do you plan to make cash on the shard?...la

 

[Sweeney]

Hmm, Samurai Empire is a free download.. so ninja is available to you.

 

[Nexus]

Hmm, Samurai Empire is a free download.. so ninja is available to you.

SE is a free download, the account upgrade isn't....two seperate things, you always have all the content patched to your client you just don't always have access to it. My advice though if he's not running ninja then to be a siege thief...

 

[Sweeney]

SE is a free download, the account upgrade isn't....two seperate things, you always have all the content patched to your client you just don't always have access to it. My advice though if he's not running ninja then to be a siege thief...

As far as I know, there is no account upgrade to SE. The only account upgrade available is ML. SE is free and it is what I downloaded and use.

 

[Nickster]

se was included in the 8th anv eddition and was released as a expansion also, i had to upgrade in order to use the ninja abilities or even items from the expansion.... the game can be bought for the upgrade code, but the only one uogamecodes has is ML and its $27.99 i would wait for SA this year and you will get them all

 

[Radix]

Here are a few key questions...what will you be doing when playing, but not stealing? Also, after a steal, what do you prefer to do, run and hide, or stay and fight?

¿?!
if you are going to kill your victim? why steal from him? just kill and loot, ?
is it a different loot when robbing?

i have several questions also:
is it worth ninja skills? on my experience, i only worth a little melee bonus, most "spells" seem to be useless... i think,

i love stealthing but...
being a thief is a good choice to make gold? is there valuable steleables artys?

what about this template?
stealth 120/hiding 120
steal 120/snooping 100?
fencing 100+/poisoning (90)/tactics 100?
oh oh
and where goes the 40 magery/chivalry for healing and traveling?

damm, the first four skills need to be at maximum?

 

[TheScoundrelRico]

i love stealthing but...
being a thief is a good choice to make gold? is there valuable steleables artys?

Most of us do not steal for profit...la

 

[RichDC]

From what ive read youll need around 80 magery to travel as recall and sacred dont work,

Hiding doesnt go to 120,
as there is no passive detect on siege 80 stealth should be enough (makes you easier to track though)
stealing doesnt really need to go much higher than 90 (most items youll want to steal are going to be around 1-7stones)

Try and work out the minumum skill you need to 100% your objective (i.e. only 75 stealth for 100% success 80 for shadow strike)

 

[Radix]

thanks!!
mm really only that? then i have 80% done,
i had an stealth warrior (oooold style ninja from t2a age), used to stealth on leather or studded leather armor with medium weight on my backpack, in my shard liches and high intelligence monsters discover people very often (at least with invis spell)

Is it very hard/long to raise snooping and stealing?