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I haven't reported mine. I also don't use it as an advantage. Just kinda think it's neat
I disagree. I remember when I first noticed my character was bugged and I posted about it on stratics. Petra gave enough of an argument to were I almost did delete it. I'd bet a nickel Petra would. I'm also bet she is not alone.
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Yeah, I would. Running around with 40 lmc ain't worth my integrity. I know it's just a video game, but that's kinda my point. I can't believe there are folks out there who allow their personal integrity to suffer for nothing but pixels.. but hey.. ain't casting any stones either. To each their own.
They still use cheats and everything else I'm pretty certain they wouldn't feel one bit of guilt using such an advantage.
Now on the other hand yes some of us would certainly be bothered by it.
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LOL as if that has anything to do with player integrity...what a ****ing unrelated comparison.
It's not like I and other pvpers haven't come on stratics and started multiple threads about opening up town bonuses to reds specifically so we all aren't forced to play blues....
that is more an example of the dev's not communicating with the player base and/or not being familiar with certain aspects of the game (pvp) to realize just how uneven they were making the playing field with town bonuses.
Edit- Fun fact: I actually registered for stratics solely so I could post about town bonuses, no dev ever chimed in on those threads and no changes have been made...
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Yeah, I hear ya there for sure. Me and another older vet were talking about a certain guild on Atlantic that was rumored to have had quite a few folks actually do jail time for some of the things they did in game... I mean heck... risking losing that backdoor virginity for a dang video game???? That definitely goes in the HELL NAW!!!! end of the pool...
We both agree that on the scale of life the pixels here are kinda low on most peoples priorities. So why would the cost (in this case personal integrity) be so high? Honest question again just curious.
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Well.. for me.. integrity is integrity whether you are talking about a pile of cash or mere pixels. Loss of integrity is the same regardless of what you lose it over.
LoL No. And I have a char bugged.
I voted No.
I share the same opinion with drcossack.
I've posted a screenshot of it, people know it exists, the devs can fix it the way they want too.
I have one character that's bugged with this I did not report it because I don't know how it happened, if I knew how it happened I'd report it- Then we could wait 3+ years for it to get fixed.
It wouldn't bother me at all if they fixed it, I purposefully didn't build my suit around it specifically because it could be fixed.
I'd rather not have "My character fixed" while other people still have permanently bugged characters in this fashion.
I share the same opinion with drcossack.
I've posted a screenshot of it, people know it exists, the devs can fix it the way they want too.
I have one character that's bugged with this I did not report it because I don't know how it happened, if I knew how it happened I'd report it- Then we could wait 3+ years for it to get fixed.
It wouldn't bother me at all if they fixed it, I purposefully didn't build my suit around it specifically because it could be fixed.
I'd rather not have "My character fixed" while other people still have permanently bugged characters in this fashion.
Or me, even though none of my chars are bugged. But I still wouldn't take advantage of it - I have LMC on all my suits anyway. I'm sure it's been reported by some people in the past, plus it's documented on here.
To me, there are more important things to fix (i.e. Mortal spam/stacking), although being bugged with 40 LMC does have its benefits (obviously.); afaik, most of the dungeon loot being used now has LMC anyway, so you'll probably never even notice if someone is bugged with it.
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I'd report it and I'll be happy to explain why.
Like others have said it's a matter of integrity.
Integrity is : the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles; moral uprightness.
Most importantly integrity begins with yourself, if you know something is wrong, and you know what you should do about it and refuse, you're not being acting ethically, or honestly. Inability to hold yourself up to a standard of integrity means you can not be expected to hold anyone else to a standard of integrity as that would be an unjust act. This is a truth that has been philosophized for over a millennium, the idea is present in the writings of Plato such as The Apology and The Republic while never specifically mentioned. The concept of personal integrity is vital to any society, even virtual ones, abandonment of this principle in the real world has led to the collapse of empires, and in virtual worlds it hastens the decline and discontinuance of a specific title because of the necessity of finding creative ways to combat it eventually sows discord.
How about some examples closer to home...
We all hear the complaints about rampant scripting, exploitation of bugs etc. and what is the result? Most of the community blames the Developers, but every time they make a change to the game to attempt to balance things, people actively look for ways not to work with the system but to game the system for personal benefit leading to a need for another round of changes. People complain about the randomized resources, this was a reaction to people rampantly scripting high end ore and lumber for profit. Cool downs on buffs, and apples etc? Nerfs? Another reaction to those who don't have the personal integrity to work within the rules of the game.
Do I agree with all their changes? Absolutely not, because they create increased limitations on myself due to someone else conducting unethical behavior. Do I roll with it? Yes, I will say I don't log in nearly as often as I did 5 years ago, but if I was to join suit with the unscrupulous individuals I'd be preforming an unjust act in response to an unjust at and this never is a proper thing to do. Other people simply close their accounts, and as subscriptions decline and the eventual end grows closer it won't be because the Devs failed the game, they at least are trying to make progress, it will be because too much of the player base has eventually failed the game by their constant in ability to act with any sense of integrity.
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erm, I read the poll, voted, then read the thread.
Not sure how I feel about you knowing me that well
This has to be an easy fix. I am not sure why it has gone on for so long.
It's either "Working as intended" (sorry, had to do it), or they have no idea how to fix it/don't care enough to fix it.
Paragons of goodness are easy to spot. Its the eddie haskels you have to look out forerm, I read the poll, voted, then read the thread.
Not sure how I feel about you knowing me that well
From Leave it to Beaver.
since all of my characters have either 40LMC for mages or 50+ LMC for non mages...Why would I...and how would I even realize...lol
Take all of your gear off.
Questions like this make me feel old
I guess my point was too obtuse....doesnt matter what my LMC is naked since I have it on all my gear. It isnt like it would give me 80-95 lmc if I was bugged and had it on my gear.
And I dont plan on remaking 14+ suits just to exploit a glitch that will get changed back on the next publish.
Ah. Yeah, all of my suits have 40+...well, not sure about my thrower's suit offhand, but I think he does. My tamer is the only one of all my chars that doesn't (36 LMC), but I'm not gonna worry too much about 4% on a pvm only character.
100% lmc as in they can have 10 man cast at 4/6 casting earthquake non stop and never run out of mana....somehow I doubt this
I believe you are confusing LRC and LMC... Mages can have 100 LRC but are capped at 40 LMC if they have med or wear medable armour
Why should I spent my precious time reporting things they already know since forever but obviously don't plan to fix?
I would rather see the team spent time on actually fixing things instead of seeing Mesanna personally playing the GM and spending her time on fixing a single character of my single account. But unfortunately that seems to be totally her thing
I would rather see the team spent time on actually fixing things instead of seeing Mesanna personally playing the GM and spending her time on fixing a single character of my single account. But unfortunately that seems to be totally her thing
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why should you spend you precious 8 seconds to report this? you spent more time than that tying out your post that makes completely no sense.Why should I spent my precious time reporting things they already know since forever but obviously don't plan to fix?
I would rather see the team spent time on actually fixing things instead of seeing Mesanna personally playing the GM and spending her time on fixing a single character of my single account. But unfortunately that seems to be totally her thing
you want the dev team to spend their time fixing things but you don't want them to spend the time fixing this thing.
hence the point of this thread... trying to FIX the 40 lmc bug.
No, thats not what I said. Please read my post again. I am in favour of them fixing this. I just disagree with how they normally handle those issues.
They know about this for ages. They fixed characters, so they should also had the possibility to get some idea of what is wrong. Yet this bug still is around. Of course I could report it as well, but what is the likely outcome? Getting my char fixed while the bug itself never gets fixed. And that is pretty much a waste of time. Even for both parties.
Good luck with your ambitions on getting the actual problem fixed. From past experience you are more likely to get an response like "email me what character is bugged and I will fix this one character".
Of course everybody is free to report it. I just said I would not waste my time as the thread asks for this.
I had to google that. Now I know.
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My primary mage character had this over a year ago. I reported it the moment I found out. Lying my ass.
